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post May 11 2009, 04:24 AM
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post May 11 2009, 04:53 AM
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Check your source first biggthumpup.gif

Lao4Lao wrote:
ສະບາຍດີ - สบายดี

Thanks Dinsorcee for sharing interesting information. According to the Lao Ministry of Education, Lao words and borrowing words (used as part of Lao language) are:
67.56% are Lao
24.97% from Pali
5.90% from Sanskrit
0.53% from Khmer
0.40% from Thai(Siamese)
0.28% from Chinese
0.23% from French

ขอบใจเดี

Thats cool, So what do you think makes up the Thai Language... I think the Thai Language is made up from the following...

55.55% From Lao
24.97% from Pali
7.41% are Thai
5.90% from Sanskrit
5.53% from Khmer
0.28% from CHinese
0.23% from English

http://www.laohub.com/modules.php?name=For...sc&start=30
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post May 11 2009, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE(TeeNoi @ May 11 2009, 04:53 AM) [snapback]4227607[/snapback]
Check your source first biggthumpup.gif

Lao4Lao wrote:
ສະບາຍດີ - สบายดี

Thanks Dinsorcee for sharing interesting information. According to the Lao Ministry of Education, Lao words and borrowing words (used as part of Lao language) are:
67.56% are Lao
24.97% from Pali
5.90% from Sanskrit
0.53% from Khmer
0.40% from Thai(Siamese)
0.28% from Chinese
0.23% from French

ขอบใจเดี

Thats cool, So what do you think makes up the Thai Language... I think the Thai Language is made up from the following...

55.55% From Lao
24.97% from Pali
7.41% are Thai
5.90% from Sanskrit
5.53% from Khmer
0.28% from CHinese
0.23% from English

http://www.laohub.com/modules.php?name=For...sc&start=30

why not merge laos and thailand..
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post May 11 2009, 06:49 AM
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I think lao and thai have the same root. confused.gif
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post May 11 2009, 08:33 AM
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Thailand bangkock language is made up of 99 % jek. If you don't believe me ask Teenoi. biggthumpup.gif
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post May 11 2009, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(Buddhalove @ May 11 2009, 08:33 PM) [snapback]4227754[/snapback]
Thailand bangkock language is made up of 99 % jek. If you don't believe me ask Teenoi. biggthumpup.gif

Laos is the shame of SEA. Thailand has nothing to do with Laos. See what they eat pukeface.gif




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post May 11 2009, 07:38 PM
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^ wth, i'm sure you're not real thai then, because thailand got stuff like these too, so is cambodia and other SEA country. Stop peeing against the wind. now whose hypocrite? icon_sad.gif
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post May 11 2009, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (Maverick1 @ May 11 2009, 08:38 PM) *
^ wth, i'm sure you're not real thai then, because thailand got stuff like these too, so is cambodia and other SEA country. Stop peeing against the wind. now whose hypocrite? icon_sad.gif


Ah TeeNoi is confuse if he should call himself Jekloangkoak or Thai.....LOL
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post May 11 2009, 09:51 PM
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Half of Thai or even most can't understand Laos. Only the so called Issan. Notice how laos can understand Thai, cause they get Thai channels and pop music.

Both are similar, I look at it as Thai-High class and Laos-Lower class language. I tried talking Laos to Thai people and they just look at me all weird, then ignore me.
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post May 11 2009, 11:46 PM
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Both Language sound nice and sweet depends on whos talking. I'm just saying its the stereotype for us Laos. Come on Tourist people? Gotta be nice to them to try to scam them. Think u watch that Luang Prabang movie haven't u?
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post May 12 2009, 12:36 AM
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post May 12 2009, 03:40 AM
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QUOTE (Savan @ May 11 2009, 11:46 PM) *
Whether you're Lao or Thai, I think you sound very insecure. Tourists are mentioning to others that Lao language sounds more beautiful than Thai language so you come in here to put down the Lao language? LOL! You're entitled to your own opinion. However, to those who've listened to both and are familiar with both languages, Lao is the more formal language and sounds nicer and softer. Foreigners who've been to Luang Prabang, Laos, don't share your opinions. Thai people speak really fast especially the merchants in Bangkok and Thai tones as spoken by Thais are very harsh sounding, which is characteristic of a low class language.

In case you haven't noticed, Thai people are now listening to Lao music and becoming fans of Lao celebrities like Alexandra Bounxouei. Lao language has more native words and it's also tonally more flexible than Thai, which is why it's harder for a Thai person to understand Lao. Thai language is a tonal language that depends on consonant clusters to add clarity to the words and the tones sound very robotic, whereas Lao language is also a tonal language, but our tones sound smoother because of the way we pronounce our words. Thai language also tends to use the same words for multiple meanings, whereas Lao language usually has different words to convey a meaning. Spoken Lao language is harder to learn than Thai because we have more native words to memorize, whereas Thai language is a simplified version of the Lao language. Thailand had to standardize the Thai language by using only a limited amount of words in order to allow different ethnic groups to understand a central language. After you've mastered the Thai language, then you'll be able to upgrade your language skills by learning how to speak the more complicated but nicer sounding Lao language.


It's like a Scottish saying Scottish sounds more beautiful than English.

HOLY CRAP !!!
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post May 12 2009, 03:59 AM
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Tai accent similarity

Shan (Burma) - Dai (Yunnan) - Lanna (Northern Thai)

Northern Lao - Central Thai

Southern Lao - Northeastern Thai (Isan)

Southern Thai seems to be very unique cuz they speak very fast.
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post May 12 2009, 04:11 AM
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Where is Mon icon_sad.gif ????
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post May 12 2009, 04:24 AM
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QUOTE (Anouvong @ May 12 2009, 09:40 AM) *
It's like a Scottish saying Scottish sounds more beautiful than English.

HOLY CRAP !!!


Actually the best polished accent in Britain is Inverness RP followed by Edinburgh RP ( both in Scotland ) , followed by London RP .

RP = received pronunciation


Of the general accents most call centres are based in Scotland because the non-chav central lowland scots accent is seen as soft , trustworthy and nice.


General lowland scots accent is far easier to the ear than the estuarine London drawl , Brummie , Manc or god forbid Scouse or Geordie .




QUOTE (Anouvong @ May 12 2009, 09:59 AM) *
Tai accent similarity

Shan (Burma) - Dai (Yunnan) - Lanna (Northern Thai)

Northern Lao - Central Thai

Southern Lao - Northeastern Thai (Isan)

Southern Thai seems to be very unique cuz they speak very fast.


educated Shan pawns the whole lot 5555555555555555555




QUOTE (sonofgunongjerai @ May 12 2009, 10:11 AM) *
Where is Mon icon_sad.gif ????


embarassedlaugh.gif we're talking about Tai languages here dude
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QUOTE (Laoism @ May 12 2009, 09:14 AM) *
Ah TeeNoi is confuse if he should call himself Jekloangkoak or Thai.....LOL

Pardon me, what the hell is Loangkoak. confused.gif confused.gif
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QUOTE (Savan @ May 12 2009, 12:46 AM) *
Whether you're Lao or Thai, I think you sound very insecure. Tourists are mentioning to others that Lao language sounds more beautiful than Thai language so you come in here to put down the Lao language? LOL! You're entitled to your own opinion. However, to those who've listened to both and are familiar with both languages, Lao is the more formal language and sounds nicer and softer. Foreigners who've been to Luang Prabang, Laos, don't share your opinions. Thai people speak really fast especially the merchants in Bangkok and Thai tones as spoken by Thais are very harsh sounding, which is characteristic of a low class language.

In case you haven't noticed, Thai people are now listening to Lao music and becoming fans of Lao celebrities like Alexandra Bounxouei. Lao language has more native words and it's also tonally more flexible than Thai, which is why it's harder for a Thai person to understand Lao. Thai language is a tonal language that depends on consonant clusters to add clarity to the words and the tones sound very robotic, whereas Lao language is also a tonal language, but our tones sound smoother because of the way we pronounce our words. Thai language also tends to use the same words for multiple meanings, whereas Lao language usually has different words to convey a meaning. Spoken Lao language is harder to learn than Thai because we have more native words to memorize, whereas Thai language is a simplified version of the Lao language. Thailand had to standardize the Thai language by using only a limited amount of words in order to allow different ethnic groups to understand a central language. After you've mastered the Thai language, then you'll be able to upgrade your language skills by learning how to speak the more complicated but nicer sounding Lao language.


Lao is also a monosyllabic language so consonant clusters are rare. have consonant clusters does not mean the language is of lower class, it actually is of higher class because it is harder to master. usually asian languages with consonant clusters are due to the fact that they are highly influenced by sanskrit and pali which are master languages. languages who adapted these languages to inlclude sounds not found in their native tongue must create new sounds and letters to accomodate sounds that exist already within these languages. usually these languages are found in religious text, institute and royalty.


i thought the opposite was true, lao government had to simplify the written language so it became phonetic so in turn easier to read. pali and sanskrit words written in lao does not reflect orginal spelling because of all the letters dropped during the reform. from what i have studied lao is actually a more simplified language now than it was 100 years ago. especially after the royal family was no more.

case in point

pradesh=country (sanskrit origin)
prateh=khmer
prathet=thai
pathet=lao

luang prabang original spelling, notice however that the spelling in lao is luang phabang, and i have yet to meet a lao person that pronounces the Prah in Phra Bang.

vrah (brah) sanskrit origin for sacred
preah-khmer
prah-thai
pha- lao


keep in mind central thai is only one region within thailand that is where the government is so naturally central thai would be the standard for all thai spoken and written within thailand. that does not mean it is practiced all over thailand. beerchug.gif

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QUOTE (Zaw-Gyi @ May 12 2009, 10:24 AM) *
...Of the general accents most [UK] call centres are based in Scotland because the non-chav central lowland scots accent is seen as soft , trustworthy and nice...

I thought they're all based in India nowadays lol
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