Indians... The Malaysian Pariahs Options

[SChong54]

Woooow ..... Poor Indians ...

Chinese are more "lucky" to live in Malaysia because they have money to "control" and "manipulate" Malays politicians and Malays elite from UMNO and PKR ...

Indians... The Malaysian Pariahs

I don't quite believe in reincarnation. I know many of you do but not being a very religious person myself, I still pretty much believe in Stephen Hawking. Anyways, say you believe in reincarnation. Who decides where you get reincarnated? There's the karma system isn't it? Do good this life and you will get a better life in the next. If that is true, then we know that bad people get reincarnated at Indians in Malaysia. If you are born into Malaysia via an Indian womb, you are screwed I tell you. Screwed big time.

It sucks to be an Indian in this country. If you are born an Indian in India, you stand a chance of being born in the north where you may one day be the richest man in the world or you may be born in the south where you will be just... poor. (Ok, that's a generalisation but you get the drift). But if you are born an Indian in Malaysia... aiyoyo...

Look at this article, (Indian) Lady Arrested While Making (Police) Report. For those who are too lazy to read... Plain clothes anti-narcotics police raided Indian lady's house for no reason. Coppers took her pawn papers and her son's PS2. Coppers made the 14 year old son sit in the police van and poked fun at him telling him they will arrest him when he grows up. Indian lady then went to police station to make report and claim back belongings, but they nabbed her because her report will get the coppers in trouble.

That's Malaysia. It doesn't matter if the above story is true or not. It doesn't matter if the woman has some untold stories. The point I am trying to make is if you are an Indian, you are heavily discriminated in Malaysia. Everyone knows that. You know that, I know that.

If you are an Indian, and you kena tangkap masuk balai, your chances of dying in there is higher than any other races. Innocence not important. Type of offence also not important. And the chances are extremely high that you will get bashed up by the coppers if you are an Indian.

1 Malay, 1 Chinese and 1 Indian run out of 7-11. If someone shouts pencuri, the coppers will go after the Indian fella. Guaranteed.

A young Malay drives a Honda with super mods, a young Chinese drives a Honda with blue lights all over and a young Indian drives a plain Honda. The police on a road block will stop the Indian chap and ask for his identification.

A group of 5 Malays travel in a Myvi. A group of 5 Chinese travel in a Myvi. A group of 5 Indians travel in a Myvi. The police at the road block will stop the Indians, make them alight the car, and check all their identifications.

The Indians have a special status in this country - the least respectable category. Nobody gives a hoot about the Indians. Now Samy Vellu is even claiming that MIC's education arm belongs to him personally. Hahahaha... brilliant.

What is so different about the Indians that they deserve this? I have many Indian friends. I have many Indian relatives. Heck, I don't care if they are Indians, they are just my friends and relatives. Some are really intelligent, some are brilliant in the office, some are super polite and soft-spoken, some love to drink (a lot), some are just downright lazy, some are out to make a quick buck out of you, some are perpetual trouble makers, some are religious to the core, some are... I know many Malays and Chinese who are just like that too! Why pick on the Indians?

Just because many of them are poor does not make all of them thieves. Come on, it is no secret that the Indians are the poorest among the lot of 3 although some of them have made in big. But look at the majority. Just because Ananda Krishnan is rich doesn't mean that the Indians are all doing well.

And why are the Indians the poorest of the 3 races in the very first place? Why are they always treated as the anak tiri? The government just could not give a damn about them and many continue to get stuck in a vicious cycle. The Brits brought them over as estate workers. Many are still stuck there. Why? Because they have been continuously denied proper education. Without proper education, how are they going to break out from poverty? But that is exactly what the BN government does not want to do - keep them in the trap. I am willing to put 500 bucks on the table that the poorest kampung of the 3 races belong to the Indians. (For discussion sake, lets exclude the Orang Asli).

How are the Indians going to break away from stereotyping? They can't. It is not them who stereotype themselves, but the society who stereotype the Indians. Unfortunately, racism in Malaysia is getting worse. The real Malaysia is a horrible place to live in. Back in school, nobody gave a flying fark what color your skin is. We were simply classmates, friends.

For now, our Indians comrades will just have to 'just take it all in'. Nobody influential is fighting for them. The Indians are unable to rise in numbers because of fear and lack of knowledge. I guess they will just have to wait for a messiah.

Here's a little for you stereotyping Malaysians out there. According to The Malaysian Society Guide Book:

If you are a Malay, you are lazy, stupid and benefits from lopsided preferences.
If you are a Chinese, you are a gambler and you'll do anything for money.
If you are an Indian, you are an alcoholic and a trouble maker.

This is the Malaysia we live in. 1Malaysia my farking arse!

[TheLogic]

nonsense, people get upset because indians sleeping with their women..crap post.

[TheLogic]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chindian

In Malaysia and Singapore, the majority of interracial marriages occur between Chinese and Indians. The offspring of such marriages are informally known as "Chindian". The Malaysian government, however, only classifies them by their fathers' ethnicity. As the majority of these intermarriages usually involve an Indian groom and Chinese bride, the majority of Chindian offspring in Malaysia are usually classified as "Indian" by the Malaysian government.

BANG BANG BANG BABY

[ricochet]

Woooow ..... Poor Indians ...

Chinese are more "lucky" to live in Malaysia because they have money to "control" and "manipulate" Malays politicians and Malays elite from UMNO and PKR ...

haha...... pariahs......sad but its true!!

Malays have the government to support them
Chinese have their clans
Indian forget their roots for those who are successful but to those are not, they have nobody!!

[radzi]

haha...... pariahs......sad but its true!!

Malays have the government to support them

Not "support".... but "bribe" and "deceived".

....that "support" and the subsidy mentality make the Malays week.

Not "support".... but "bribe" and "deceived".

....that "support" and the subsidy mentality make the Malays week.

Weak

[ricochet]

Not "support".... but "bribe" and "deceived".

....that "support" and the subsidy mentality make the Malays week.





Weak

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Not really bro...malays are literally being supported in every way - NEP, Bumiputra status and everything else from education to doing business. I am surprised on how many universities mushroomed over the years with no standard. The policy is ...to educate as many malays as possible

During Mahathir reigns, the policy was to create as many malay millionaires as possible with the hope that it will spread by itself meaning a successful malay helps another like how the chinese advocates. Sadly this did not happened and not well distributed. In the end, the rich becomes richer, the poor stagnant

In totality, the NEP has achieved 30% or even more, but in reality it was not well distributed. In terms of how many person benefitted, I hate to agree that it has not reach 30%....I may be wrong as I based on my own assumptions nor am I here to spread hatred. Just voicing my personal views

[radzi]

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Not really bro...malays are literally being supported in every way - NEP, Bumiputra status and everything else from education to doing business. I am surprised on how many universities mushroomed over the years with no standard. The policy is ...to educate as many malays as possible

I was once a full-time lecturer at UPM and later at USM.

"critical thinking" is almost taboo and being avoided. Student can answer "similar" difficult questions, but cannot answer easy common sense outside the box questions.

...New schools & universities are being built to support the construction cronies. They are a training center for colonization: http://www.henrymakow.com/000561.html

[radzi]

WITHOUT PREJUDICE


During Mahathir reigns, the policy was to create as many malay millionaires as possible with the hope that it will spread by itself meaning a successful malay helps another like how the chinese advocates. Sadly this did not happened and not well distributed. In the end, the rich becomes richer, the poor stagnant

Chinese focus on "value" proposition, Mahathir focus on solely cronies.

24:4 And those who accuse free women (or man) and bring not four witnesses, flog them (with) eighty stripes and never accept their evidence forever (abadan), and these are the transgressors

[samheisfl]

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Not really bro...malays are literally being supported in every way - NEP, Bumiputra status and everything else from education to doing business. I am surprised on how many universities mushroomed over the years with no standard. The policy is ...to educate as many malays as possible

During Mahathir reigns, the policy was to create as many malay millionaires as possible with the hope that it will spread by itself meaning a successful malay helps another like how the chinese advocates. Sadly this did not happened and not well distributed. In the end, the rich becomes richer, the poor stagnant

In totality, the NEP has achieved 30% or even more, but in reality it was not well distributed. In terms of how many person benefitted, I hate to agree that it has not reach 30%....I may be wrong as I based on my own assumptions nor am I here to spread hatred. Just voicing my personal views

Some good point there Bro..

[sonofgunongjerai]

Mahathir is an Indian descent...

[radzi]

Mahathir is an Indian descent...

According to ayat 24:4 in the Quran, any of Mahathir testimonies can never be accepted until he repent in public of his "sodomy accusation" guilt in public and we witness his good deeds.

In other words....The Quran accuse Mahathir as an ongoing liar.

[samheisfl]

But.. when it comed to pirate DVD seller, nobody chase the Indian.. only those chinese

[samheisfl]

When you start to think critically, you'll start to attack many things that help many of this corrupt politicians stay in power.



Although Indians were the third largest race after the Malays and Chinese (around 8%), they committed the most crimes.

Frankly.. i don't agree with you.. though there no statistic on this matter.. i believe rule of thumb play its role.. I believe Malays who are one that committed most of the crimes (in numbers not percentage).

the bigger the pie, the bigger the problem will be..

This post has been edited by samheisfl: Oct 29 2009, 05:43 AM

[radzi]

Frankly.. i don't agree with you.. though there no statistic on this matter.. i believe rule of thumb play its role.. I believe Malays who are one that committed most of the crimes (in numbers not percentage).

the bigger the pie, the bigger the problem will be.. -eek

the biggest crime created by Malays is when they believe and worship "Tanah Tumpah Darah Ku" as their Rahmat provider. In that they turn away from obvious truth and proceed to worship and submit to their created demigods from the UMNO ranks.

[renzokuken]

compare indian and chinese population to malay
theres billions indians,chineses in this world against few mil malays
india and china invest in malaysia billions of dollar everyyear,often they preferably picked thier own race to be ceo's
chinese and indian malaysian has the advantage of language and connection with diff country

This post has been edited by renzokuken: Nov 2 2009, 10:09 AM

[samheisfl]

compare indian and chinese population to malay
theres billions indians,chineses in this world against few mil malays
india and china invest in malaysia billions of dollar everyyear,often they preferably picked thier own race to be ceo's
chinese and indian malaysian has the advantage of language and connection with diff country

Hmm.. i'm really sure about this.. normally.. any part or country in this world, most ceos were picked because of merit.. not because of race..

I would say that one of the most succes ceo for Malay is Nazir Razak..
While the chinese is the Public Bank CEO
and for the indian, of Tony fernandes..

Anyhow, these ceo are in Malaysian Context..

By the way.. speaking of investment..
I believe lots of construction company own by chinese in Malaysia manage to get jobs in middle east is because of the cooperation between the Malay and Chinese.. Its because the Arabs are quite selective.. including the religion issues..

[softhard]

compare indian and chinese population to malay
theres billions indians,chineses in this world against few mil malays
india and china invest in malaysia billions of dollar everyyear,often they preferably picked thier own race to be ceo's
chinese and indian malaysian has the advantage of language and connection with diff country

come on ......you forget that malay also have Indonesia

[AznnGirL]

I'm Chinese but i actually support Indians more if compared to Malays. Indians deserve my support more than the Malays.

[Naidu]

How I wish I can make stupid American and UK born Indians see this.

Caste and race does matter.

The Indians who were brought to Malaya by the British were derelicts to begin with from the untouchable and tribal castes. Later vessels of coolies(shudras) from Tamil Nadu and Kerala.

The Indians who get slapped around in Singapore and Malaysia are those black australoid Tamils of the pariah castes and Bengalis. They are pariahs in India and - under natural circumstances - they are pariah also elsewhere throughout the world and even embarrassingly to Malays.

And yet when we look at the top professors, doctors and ministers in Singapore. They are all TAMIL Brahmins like S. Eswaran.

And yet Malays will queue in long lines to watch the latest Bollywood films to see the hottest Indid hunks and babes. Dia pangel orang Tamil "keling mama" dan "orang hitam".

A malay girl can sing all the lines in Kuch Kuch Hota Hai more perfectly than any Tamil.

[Jagger]

How I wish I can make stupid American and UK born Indians see this.

Caste and race does matter.

The Indians who were brought to Malaya by the British were derelicts to begin with from the untouchable and tribal castes. Later vessels of coolies(shudras) from Tamil Nadu and Kerala.

The Indians who get slapped around in Singapore and Malaysia are those black australoid Tamils of the pariah castes and Bengalis. They are pariahs in India and - under natural circumstances - they are pariah also elsewhere throughout the world and even embarrassingly to Malays.

Nonsense. Most of the Indians winning international accolades (Nobel Prize, Oscar, Grammy, etc.) are dark-skinned Bengalis and Tamils. On the other hand, I have rarely ever seen fair-skinned Indians (Punjabis, Kashmiris, etc.) being awarded international accolades.