China hits back at Taiwan leader Options

[kunomchu]

China hits back at Taiwan leader

A Chinese government spokesman has accused Taiwan's president of trying to ruin ties with the mainland.

President Chen Shui-bian, whose party favours Taiwanese independence, used his New Year speech to insist that the island was not part of China.

But a spokesman for the Taiwan Affairs Office in Beijing hit back, saying China would be "vigilant to any secessionist moves."

China sees Taiwan as part of its territory.

It has threatened to use force if the island ever moves to declare formal independence.

'Disturbances'

"Only the people of Taiwan have the right to decide on the future of Taiwan," Mr Chen said in his speech on Monday.

"Taiwan's sovereignty belongs to 23 million people. It definitely does not belong to the People's Republic of China," he said.

Guide to Taiwan flashpoint

A day later, the Chinese government made clear that it was not happy with Mr Chen's remarks.

An unnamed spokesman for the Taiwan Affairs Office told the state-run news agency, Xinhua, that Mr Chen "spares no effort to make disturbances".

"Chen intends to unreasonably restrict cross-Strait exchanges and cooperation... and ruin the peaceful and stable development of cross-Strait ties," he said.

"We will... never allow secessionists to separate Taiwan from the motherland in any name or by any way."

In his own New Year message, Chinese President Hu Jintao also mentioned the issue of Taiwanese independence, calling on Chinese people around the world to join hands to oppose the move.

China remains deeply suspicious of the Taiwanese leader and his independence-leaning Democratic Progressive Party, accusing Mr Chen of planning constitutional changes that would destroy hopes of eventual reunification.

But despite his tough talk, Mr Chen has also made clear many times in the past that he has no plans to declare official independence except in the event of a Chinese invasion.

Tensions, though, are still high. Late last month China announced plans to upgrade its military, highlighting its dispute with Taiwan as one of several regional security threats.

Meanwhile, Taiwanese legislators have recently been discussing a controversial and much-delayed US arms deal package.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6223951.stm

[MiCC]

But despite his tough talk, Mr Chen has also made clear many times in the past that he has no plans to declare official independence except in the event of a Chinese invasion.

that sums up pretty well, all talk and no action.

This post has been edited by MiCC: Jan 5 2007, 12:01 AM

[kunomchu]

the idiot is going to visit USA. Probably miami. What a loser

[miss_merisha]

Miami = nightlife. he would like that a lot

[MiCC]

Miami = nightlife. he would like that a lot

he actually checking out the houses he is going to live in incase a war happens

[protocl]

In his own New Year message, Chinese President Hu Jintao also mentioned the issue of Taiwanese independence, calling on Chinese people around the world to join hands to oppose the move.


yea, i can imagine that...

[bigdaub]

he actually checking out the houses he is going to live in incase a war happens

不用擔心, 美國跟日本會保護台灣, 中國不會(也不敢)打台灣!

This post has been edited by bigdaub: Jan 6 2007, 10:43 PM

[chynagongju]

In his own New Year message, Chinese President Hu Jintao also mentioned the issue of Taiwanese independence, calling on Chinese people around the world to join hands to oppose the move.
yea, i can imagine that...

Why not?

[protocl]

Why not?

first off, many upon many taiwanese do not want taiwan to be part of china....plus, this is an illusion..

[chynagongju]

first off, many upon many taiwanese do not want taiwan to be part of china....plus, this is an illusion..

Many upon many? What does that add up to? I'm pretty sure there's a large part of Taiwan that does want to be a part of China.

Ah Bian's comments like this is why the whole "Ah Bian Xia Tai" was conceived. And still exists...

[education]

When your saying many upon many your not just referring to you and your family are you?

first off, many upon many taiwanese do not want taiwan to be part of china....plus, this is an illusion..

[bigdaub]

When your saying many upon many your not just referring to you and your family are you?

我想他說的是不久前的調查發現超過一半的台灣人贊成臺 灣獨立.

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=98159

This post has been edited by bigdaub: Jan 7 2007, 09:15 AM

[domoKUNT]

When your saying many upon many your not just referring to you and your family are you?

no, the only 'Taiwanese' that want to be part of the mainland are the those who fled after the war with kai shek, they believe they are still mainlanders, but, the majority of Taiwanese see themselves as independent, so its not just him and his family.

[MiCC]

不用擔心, 美國跟日本會保護台灣, 中國不會(也不敢)打台灣!

你好笨啊，中國不怕美國和小日本，中國1個nuke把日本大阿扁了
台獨人 is asking to be flattened.

This post has been edited by MiCC: Jan 8 2007, 08:04 PM

[bigdaub]

你好笨啊，中國不怕美國和小日本，中國1個nuke把日本大阿扁了
台獨人 is asking to be flattened.

你住在美國你應該知道美國有超過9000原子彈, 中國只有130. 日本沒原子彈, 但他們的軍方強.

誰才笨啊?

[BigBenChow]

你住在美國你應該知道美國有超過9000原子彈, 中國只有130. 日本沒原子彈, 但他們的軍方強.

誰才笨啊?

Which has more to loose? China or US? A developed Nation or a developing Nation? Do people care more if 1 million poor Chinese die? Or 1 million americans die? Any educated person would realize that it doesn't take 9000, or even 100 nukes to destroy a nation. How many major cities in the US? 9000? 100?

And you are not an American? Considering you are a Taiwanese, most likely you are.

This post has been edited by BigBenChow: Jan 9 2007, 09:24 AM

[bigdaub]

Which has more to loose? China or US? A developed Nation or a developing Nation? Do people care more if 1 million poor Chinese die? Or 1 million americans die? Any educated person would realize that it doesn't take 9000, or even 100 nukes to destroy a nation. How many major cities in the US? 9000? 100?

And you are not an American? Considering you are a Taiwanese, most likely you are.

so what you are saying is that the chinese aren't worth as much as the americans. i see, self pity chinese.

if someone ask me what nationality i'm, i tell them i'm american. so what's your point?

keep on believing the chinese might. the japanese is fully capable of taking down china if they have to, but they won't. you wouldn't want to provoke them so that they can set up another yasukai-like shrine afterwards, do you?

[kunomchu]

what a joke.

[MiCC]

so what you are saying is that the chinese aren't worth as much as the americans. i see, self pity chinese.

if someone ask me what nationality i'm, i tell them i'm american. so what's your point?

keep on believing the chinese might. the japanese is fully capable of taking down china if they have to, but they won't. you wouldn't want to provoke them so that they can set up another yasukai-like shrine afterwards, do you?

rofl japan can take down china, thats gotta be teh most dumbest comment ever, japanese is $hit they dont even have a army and considering they are so close to china, 2 million soldiers will take them quickly, as for USA, you only need 300 nukes to destroy the whole world, and do you have proof that china only has 150 nukes? what are you? a CCP nuclear specialist?

[BigBenChow]

so what you are saying is that the chinese aren't worth as much as the americans. i see, self pity chinese.

if someone ask me what nationality i'm, i tell them i'm american. so what's your point?

keep on believing the chinese might. the japanese is fully capable of taking down china if they have to, but they won't. you wouldn't want to provoke them so that they can set up another yasukai-like shrine afterwards, do you?

Is not self pity. Its how things are in the world today. Just like how Taiwan is still not a sovereign country no matter how much you cry about it... Its simple common sense and reality anyone would understand.

Japan taking down China? Is that another one of your wet dreams? Do you always believe everything your Japanese masters tell you? Taiwan is no longer under occupation so you can stop the pretense. Why wouldn't I want them to set up another shrine? Why wouldn't I want Japan to dig a hole they can't get out of? Why wouldn't I want the Japanese to distant themselves from Asia even more?

rofl japan can take down china, thats gotta be teh most dumbest comment ever, japanese is $hit they dont even have a army and considering they are so close to china, 2 million soldiers will take them quickly, as for USA, you only need 300 nukes to destroy the whole world, and do you have proof that china only has 150 nukes? what are you? a CCP nuclear specialist?

He believes he is the direct descendent of the Devine God like Emperor Showa so naturally he believes he knows everything. Including how many warheads PLA has.

This post has been edited by BigBenChow: Jan 9 2007, 10:47 PM