Malaysia - Pre Islam?, Original Malay religion Options

[Tuan Nayland]

Does anyone know what the original religion of the Malay people was, before Islam?

Are all Malays now Muslim?

Thanks

[Fil-Am]

Your talking about malaysian malays right. I think all malays in Malaysia are muslim.

This post has been edited by Fil-Am: Sep 22 2004, 09:53 AM

[Iron Malayan]

Your talking about malaysian malays right. I think all malays in Malaysia are muslim.

That's right.

Before Islam,Malays were Buddhists and Hindus.

[Tuan Nayland]

Your talking about malaysian malays right. I think all malays in Malaysia are muslim.

Hi Fil-Am,
Yes, I was. I didn't realise that there were any Malays outside Malaysia!!! Are these also Muslim?

Hi I.M.,
I thought they must have been, due to the Javanese Buddhist/Hindu history, but I've never seen it written anywhere.

I suppose there may still be ruins of temples somewhere, like in Java.

Many thanks

[Fil-Am]

Your talking about malaysian malays right. I think all malays in Malaysia are muslim.

Hi Fil-Am,
Yes, I was. I didn't realise that there were any Malays outside Malaysia!!! Are these also Muslim?

Hi I.M.,
I thought they must have been, due to the Javanese Buddhist/Hindu history, but I've never seen it written anywhere.

I suppose there may still be ruins of temples somewhere, like in Java.

Many thanks

Im filipino, but I guess you can also consider me malay. Because filipinos and malaysians both are malays. But the majority (91.5%) of filipino malays are Christian though like me, Im catholic. It seems like Malaysia is monopolizing the name malay.

This post has been edited by Fil-Am: Sep 22 2004, 12:51 PM

[Tuan Nayland]

filipinos and malaysians both are malays.

So, it's more an ethnic name than a purely national one.

Are the languages similar?

[Fil-Am]

filipinos and malaysians both are malays.

So, it's more an ethnic name than a purely national one.

Are the languages similar?

Yeah its more of an ethnic name

No I think Malaysia's language is Bahasa Malaysia?

While the Philippines has Tagalog( Which has some spanish words in it).
Example: In tagalog you call sandals, tsinelas.(spanish influence) Or say salamat po(native malay) to say thank-you in tagalog.

This post has been edited by Fil-Am: Sep 22 2004, 01:07 PM

[PervertBurger]

Time to convert them to hinduism.

[dalawapo]

malaysian malay were first austronesian animist ----> hindu/buddhist ----> islam

filipino malay were first austronesian animist ----> hindu/islam ----> christianity

This post has been edited by dalawapo: Sep 22 2004, 04:10 PM

[Fil-Am]

malaysian malay were first austronesian animist ----> hindu/buddhist ----> islam

filipino malay were first austronesian animist ----> hindu/islam ----> christianity

I don't think malays from where my family came from were ever muslim, Visayas. Islam only affected southern philippines.

This post has been edited by Fil-Am: Sep 22 2004, 05:12 PM

[dalawapo]

your wrong fil-am

History of Manila

Manila began as the northern most Muslim sultanate at the mouth of the Pasig River along the shores of Manila Bay. The name came from the term maynilad, literally "there is nilad." Nilad is a white-flowered mangrove plant that grew in abundance in the area.

During the time when Manila was ruled by Rajah Sulaiman, who held ties with the Brunei, Ternate and Sulu sultanates, a Spanish expedition led by Martin de Goiti arrived in Manila and conquered the settlement, eliminating the fledgeling sultanate. One year later, Miguel López de Legaspi went to the town and proclaimed the Philippine Islands for Spain and establishing the city of Manila as its capital. The enclave of Intramuros, at the southern banks of Pasig River was built to protect the Spanish colonizers.

http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclop.../ma/manila.html

[Fil-Am]

your wrong fil-am

History of Manila

Manila began as the northern most Muslim sultanate at the mouth of the Pasig River along the shores of Manila Bay. The name came from the term maynilad, literally "there is nilad." Nilad is a white-flowered mangrove plant that grew in abundance in the area.

During the time when Manila was ruled by Rajah Sulaiman, who held ties with the Brunei, Ternate and Sulu sultanates, a Spanish expedition led by Martin de Goiti arrived in Manila and conquered the settlement, eliminating the fledgeling sultanate. One year later, Miguel López de Legaspi went to the town and proclaimed the Philippine Islands for Spain and establishing the city of Manila as its capital. The enclave of Intramuros, at the southern banks of Pasig River was built to protect the Spanish colonizers.

http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclop.../ma/manila.html

Thank God for Spain introducing christianity to us. Thats all I have to say.

This post has been edited by Fil-Am: Sep 22 2004, 07:23 PM

[dalawapo]

^ oh shut up!

[Fil-Am]

^ oh shut up!

I'll shut up, if you shut up about the austronesian pride thing.

This post has been edited by Fil-Am: Sep 22 2004, 07:35 PM

[PervertBurger]

Convert to Hinduism. Both Indonesia & Malaysia.

[dalawapo]

philippines can convert to hinduism belief in the goddess kali as well!

[Tuan Nayland]

I'd heard something about a great Malay Empire called Sri Vijaya:

"Powerful Malay kingdom that dominated the maritime trade of Southeast Asia for some 500 years. It arose at Palembang, Sumatra."

Sounds fascinating. Was this a united (ethnic Malay) empire?

T.N.

[Fil-Am]

philippines can convert to hinduism belief in the goddess kali as well!

How about no dalawapo, I don't take you seriously when you talk about religions. Because your an aethist and you treat religion like it was an trend.

This post has been edited by Fil-Am: Sep 23 2004, 06:51 AM

[Derek]

your wrong fil-am

History of Manila

Manila began as the northern most Muslim sultanate at the mouth of the Pasig River along the shores of Manila Bay. The name came from the term maynilad, literally "there is nilad." Nilad is a white-flowered mangrove plant that grew in abundance in the area.

During the time when Manila was ruled by Rajah Sulaiman, who held ties with the Brunei, Ternate and Sulu sultanates, a Spanish expedition led by Martin de Goiti arrived in Manila and conquered the settlement, eliminating the fledgeling sultanate. One year later, Miguel López de Legaspi went to the town and proclaimed the Philippine Islands for Spain and establishing the city of Manila as its capital. The enclave of Intramuros, at the southern banks of Pasig River was built to protect the Spanish colonizers.

http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclop.../ma/manila.html

Thank God for Spain introducing christianity to us. Thats all I have to say.

You are thanking your colonial masters because of christianity? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!

that's what I call a "biatch-mentality"!



This post has been edited by Derek: Sep 23 2004, 07:16 AM

[Tuan Nayland]

the Malay Ethnicity originated in Taiwan island....

I spotted this on another thread. I must say, I'm learning a lot.