Tibetans destroying Chinese shops in Sichuan Options

[bear11]

Citing a Tibetan monk in India, Radio Free Asia said that thousands of Tibetans had participated in the protest on Monday and that they had destroyed “Chinese shops and other Chinese facilities in the area.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/25/world/as...=1&ref=asia

Again they are doing this in western Sichuan. This area of Sichuan province is diverse and if these people cannot coexist than force is the only solution.

But the CCP is guilty for creating ethnic areas in provinces, it is time to abolish this and treat everybody equally. Also it seems monks are creating a lot of trouble, they should be forced to get a real job.

It seems there are some Tibetans who want to do the same as Dalai Lama, ethnically cleanse a half of Sichuan province.

How long can Han Chinese tolerate this, it seems deadly force on those who want to balkanise western Sichuan is the only solution.


But Tibetans probably should not be blamed but the monks, who probably have a lot of influence over people with mostly no education(there is no data for Tibetans in Sichuan, but in Tibet the literacy rate is only about 62%, while in China the rate is 96%).

Also notice how the media calls this Tibetan region of Sichuan, when in reality it is multiethnic area of Sichuan as it was before 1949, the only difference is that when the communists came to power in 1949 they created ethnic areas within provinces including Sichuan, so it seems now the Dalai Lama, monks and some Tibetans think that area should only belong to them and it seems many would like to expel the Han Chinese.

These problems were in part certainly created by the CCP by creating all these ethnic areas by copying what Russians were doing, now both Russia and China have problems over this.

This post has been edited by bear11: Jan 25 2012, 01:48 PM

[Ilikeasians]

you're a sorry piece of a human being. Deadly force is the only solution? You mean like Japanese force and Nanking?


This post has been edited by Ilikeasians: Jan 25 2012, 01:00 PM

[Yerroperil]

If CCP starts treating them equally lets see how much they like a one child policy or extra points in tests.

[bear11]

Treating everyone equally is the way to go, nobody who is healthy should have any privileges.


This post has been edited by bear11: Jan 25 2012, 01:40 PM

[faydabakery]

Treating everyone equally is the way to go, nobody who is healthy should have any privileges.

I hope this doesn't get too far out of hand. I mean, at what point do you decide to just let them go without violence or really just slaughter a bunch of Tibetans with a violent crackdown in a civil war like manner? The protests don't seem that large to really be much of a problem except for international opinion. I'd say Occupy Wall Street is bigger than Free Tibet - at least to my knowledge. Also the protests are quite different as its OWS is not trying to separate from the US.

It almost sucks to be the Chinese government right now with this problem. Global communication just gives everyone access to information. Its not like the old days when the US had the civil war or cracked down on the Native Americans. The days of the Pony Express are over.

I have no idea what the solution is. I really don't want to see a civil war though.

[robot_devil]

I hope this doesn't get too far out of hand. I mean, at what point do you decide to just let them go without violence or really just slaughter a bunch of Tibetans with a violent crackdown in a civil war like manner? The protests don't seem that large to really be much of a problem except for international opinion. I'd say Occupy Wall Street is bigger than Free Tibet - at least to my knowledge. Also the protests are quite different as its OWS is not trying to separate from the US.

It almost sucks to be the Chinese government right now with this problem. Global communication just gives everyone access to information. Its not like the old days when the US had the civil war or cracked down on the Native Americans. The days of the Pony Express are over.

I have no idea what the solution is. I really don't want to see a civil war though.

Civil war my @$$! What will a bunch of ragtag monks fight with? Prayer wheels and rocks?

The sad thing about all this is that they are merely sacrficial pawns being played by overseas "advocacy" groups that mainly consist of white Westerners with ulterior agendas. Stephanie Brigden hardly sounds Tibetan does it?

[bear11]

I hope this doesn't get too far out of hand. I mean, at what point do you decide to just let them go without violence or really just slaughter a bunch of Tibetans with a violent crackdown in a civil war like manner? The protests don't seem that large to really be much of a problem except for international opinion. I'd say Occupy Wall Street is bigger than Free Tibet - at least to my knowledge. Also the protests are quite different as its OWS is not trying to separate from the US.

It almost sucks to be the Chinese government right now with this problem. Global communication just gives everyone access to information. Its not like the old days when the US had the civil war or cracked down on the Native Americans. The days of the Pony Express are over.

I have no idea what the solution is. I really don't want to see a civil war though.

The solution is easy because this is not Tibet, abolish ethnic areas within province and if they make problems just say nobody who is healthy, especially men, can have privileges. Ethnic areas created by the CCp such as this do not exist in any country, now some of Tibetans think the area belongs to them and anyone successful should be expelled and their shops burned.

Just look how that monk says that they had destroyed “Chinese shops ", like he is proud, and it should be noted that one of the areas that the Dalai Lama wants to ethnically cleanse is western Sichuan.

If you make every men equal(I think women maybe should have some privileges) then only losers will complain, but since they are incompetent losers they will not be able to do much damage except screaming.

This post has been edited by bear11: Jan 26 2012, 02:38 PM

[bear11]

Civil war my @$$! What will a bunch of ragtag monks fight with? Prayer wheels and rocks?

The sad thing about all this is that they are merely sacrficial pawns being played by overseas "advocacy" groups that mainly consist of white Westerners with ulterior agendas. Stephanie Brigden hardly sounds Tibetan does it? .

If some Tibetans think they can have benefits by attacking other communities in multiethnic areas in provinces then the force is the only solution.

Some countries such as Turkey, the Philippines, India have ongoing internal conflicts in which tens of thousands of people died, I don't think anythink like that could happen in China.


This post has been edited by bear11: Jan 26 2012, 06:59 AM

[elleX0]

If some Tibetans think they can have benefits by attacking other communities in multiethnic areas in provinces then the force is the only solution.

Some countries such as Turkey, the Philippines, India have ongoing internal conflicts in which tens of thousands of people died, I don't think anythink like that could happen in China.

If they behave like barbarians then they should expect barbarian punishments.

[Yerroperil]

If they behave like barbarians then they should expect barbarian punishments.

That would suck to be executed under slow slicing...

[devils666]

The solution is easy because this is not Tibet, abolish ethnic areas within province and if they make problems just say nobody who is healthy, especially men, can have privileges. Ethnic areas created by the CCp such as this do not exist in any country(some western democracies often don't even allow collection of ethnic data), now some of Tibetans think the area belongs to them and anyone successful should be expelled and their shops burned.

Just look how that monk says that they had destroyed “Chinese shops ", like he is proud, and it should be noted that one of the areas that the Dalai Lama wants to ethnically cleanse is western Sichuan.

If you make every men equal(I think women maybe should have some privileges) then only losers will complain, but since they are incompetent losers they will not be able to do much damage except screaming.

This is what I've been saying all the time! Make EVERY Chinese person equal and get rid of these ethnic categories to improve unity. Everytime I say that there's no such thing as Han, people like Yellowperil accuse me of being a troll.

Someone should really tell the CPC to get rid of these ethnic categories and just call everyone "Chinese". You should post this on www.globaltimes.cn

[Yerroperil]

This is what I've been saying all the time! Make EVERY Chinese person equal and get rid of these ethnic categories to improve unity. Everytime I say that there's no such thing as Han, people like Yellowperil accuse me of being a troll.

Someone should really tell the CPC to get rid of these ethnic categories and just call everyone "Chinese". You should post this on www.globaltimes.cn

Your previous posts were more like Han mixed with other ethincities thus there shouldn't be a Han ethnicity,at least you aren't going as far as Nanyue's level of labeling Southern Han Chinese Baiyues and Northern Han Chinese as nomad barbarians,at latest Han identity started from Qing earliest would be Northern Qi during Southern and Northern dynasties. Aside from my rant I think current Southern ethnic minority such as Zhuang or She people would be assimilated easier than Tibetans or Uighurs.

[elleX0]

That would suck to be executed under slow slicing...

Can anyone tell me why Buddhist Monks believe in "self immolation" as a means of Buddhist self expression? I do not believe it is a Buddhist belief. I am sure taking of one's own life is a sin in Buddhism.

This post has been edited by elleX0: Jan 26 2012, 12:43 PM

[bear11]

This is what I've been saying all the time! Make EVERY Chinese person equal and get rid of these ethnic categories to improve unity. Everytime I say that there's no such thing as Han, people like Yellowperil accuse me of being a troll.

Someone should really tell the CPC to get rid of these ethnic categories and just call everyone "Chinese". You should post this on www.globaltimes.cn

ethnic categories are not the problem, ethnic areas are the problem.

[elleX0]

ethnic categories are not the problem, ethnic areas are the problem.

When you speak of "Ethnic Minorities" or "autonomous Regions" no matter how good your intentions are, you are already speaking of "Them" and "Us." That is archaic and must be eliminated if you want "ONE PEOPLES."

[Titanium]

Patience is the key virtue. AS long as China continues her demographic expansion into Xizang province, this problem will eventually disappear. I give it another generation.

[ReginaRae]

I don't understand why there's been this long going struggle, causing inner turmoil. Why can't Tibetans just have what they want?

[SkyBurial]

I don't understand why there's been this long going struggle, causing inner turmoil. Why can't Tibetans just have what they want?

So despite your claims of having a great knowledge of China and being a "smart girl" you can't figure out the reason for this conflict?

[ReginaRae]

I know the reason for the conflict. I don't understand why there needs to be conflict. Why Tibetans can't finally get what they want after years of struggle and torment. It's actually not that big of a deal.

And once again, you flew down from your perch the second I said something. Never fails ~

[Yearofthedragon]

Deadly mix: Sharon Stone, Angeline Jolie, Ricard Gere and Dalai Lama...