Lao people relations with Thais (historically and modern), Educate me if you may Options

[BinjbinjKai]

Siamese call themselves 'TAI', written 'Thai' for distinguish with other non-Siamese Tai.

Go read your Lao chronicles. there are only Lao Lao Lao Lao... no Tai, and they write the name of Siamese Tai.

Lao and Tai wording can be inter-change. Just like how Lao can be Shan vice versa.


But for the Siamese? I don't think they have any universal inter-change like we do because Lao language is not contaminated like the Thai language.

[LoveIsAllAround]

Lao and Tai wording can be inter-change. Just like how Lao can be Shan vice versa.


But for the Siamese? I don't think they have any universal inter-change like we do because Lao language is not contaminated like the Thai language.

Don't be nonsense. Lao is Lao. Tai is Tai. Tai/Thai are same word, just different accent. No Lao call themselves Tai or vice versa. Tai in Lao Language means kidney. LOL

Lao and Shan are not same people. Lao is Lao/Khmer mixed. Shan is called as Siem Thom by Khmer. THai is called as Siem by Khmer. Khmer call you Lao as Liev, not Siem. Shan is burmese bastardized of Siem/Siam. Mon call Thai as Sem, call you Lao as Liew too. LOL

I just don't know why you are not proud of the word 'LAO' any more.... Maybe you wanna be assoicate with Thai/THailand so much. You love us but pretend to hate..

This post has been edited by LoveIsAllAround: Jan 23 2012, 10:28 PM

[BinjbinjKai]

Don't be nonsense. Lao is Lao. Tai is Tai. Tai/Thai are same word, just different accent. No Lao call themselves Tai or vice versa. Tai in Lao Language means kidney. LOL

Lao and Shan are not same people. Lao is Lao/Khmer mixed. Shan is called as Siem Thom by Khmer. THai is called as Siem by Khmer. Khmer call you Lao as Liev, not Siem. Shan is burmese bastardized of Siem/Siam. Mon call Thai as Sem, call you Lao as Liew too. LOL

I just don't know why you are not proud of the word 'LAO' any more.... Maybe you wanna be assoicate with Thai/THailand so much. You love us but pretend to hate..

You are so retarded. This isn't an ABC kids rhyming lesson here. What you post right there does not make any sense because it sound very bsing.

We already concluded that Siamese are of Khmer/Mon stock and that they only inhabitant in south-central Thailand only. If Khom ever do exist. It obviously mean the same thing as Khmer from the south in south-central Thailand. Khom muang is of course very Siamese a hybrid of the Khmer ppl.


Just look at this guy. He looks Khmer/Mon that makes him a native of Central Thailand aka Siamese! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxmteNFHD5w...p;feature=inbox

[feezy]

Lao and Tai are interchangeable. If it wasn't, why would Fa Ngam son name himself Samsentai instead of Samsenlao? It really shows how ignorant you are Jek Kheeka.

[Buddhalove]

This is Siamese ancestors language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x2ztOuM-uc...feature=related

[LoveIsAllAround]

Lao and Tai are interchangeable. If it wasn't, why would Fa Ngam son name himself Samsentai instead of Samsenlao? It really shows how ignorant you are Jek Kheeka.

why would Fa Ngam son name himself Samsentai instead of Samsenlao?
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Becos you are just a fake lao who pretend to be a Tai. LOL

This is also the stupidest question from the one who say he is Lao.

it's not Samsentai but Samsaenthai

Don't speak Tai Lanna accent, you Lao speak accent closer to Thai

Samsaenthai = sam + saen + thai
sam = three
saen = hundreds of thousand
thai = people or khon (not Tai or Thai)

tai in Lao language is kidney
thai in Lao langauge is people
Lao never say they are 'Thai or Tai', but they say they are 'thai this thai that'

thai Viengchan = people of VIenchan, not an ethnic Tai of VIenchan


They also call other tribal Tai as Thai (Lao accent for Tai is Thai)
Black Tai = Thai dam
White Tai = Thai khaow

If Lao is Tai, why the hell they call other as Tai/Thai and never call themselves 'Tai/Thai'?

LAO IS LAO. plain fact
Lao ancestor are Lua/Lawa another plain fact


Siamese also call the old Lao as 'Lao Derm', the Lua/Lawa people.

This post has been edited by LoveIsAllAround: Jan 24 2012, 12:05 AM

[LoveIsAllAround]

You are so retarded. This isn't an ABC kids rhyming lesson here. What you post right there does not make any sense because it sound very bsing.

We already concluded that Siamese are of Khmer/Mon stock and that they only inhabitant in south-central Thailand only. If Khom ever do exist. It obviously mean the same thing as Khmer from the south in south-central Thailand. Khom muang is of course very Siamese a hybrid of the Khmer ppl.


Just look at this guy. He looks Khmer/Mon that makes him a native of Central Thailand aka Siamese! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxmteNFHD5w...p;feature=inbox

aren't we talking about Lao and Tai, why Khmer and Khom? LOL

If you wanna discuss this Khom/Khmer, I suggest you repost this comment in Khmer chat. I love to hear Khmer members' response. Let do it now buk kuay!

[Buddhalove]

why dissing the term "Siamese". don'g be ashamed of your ancestor name.

[BinjbinjKai]

aren't we talking about Lao and Tai, why Khmer and Khom? LOL

If you wanna discuss this Khom/Khmer, I suggest you repost this comment in Khmer chat. I love to hear Khmer members' response. Let do it now buk kuay!

Is their something wrong with being Siamese?

[LoveIsAllAround]

Is their something wrong with being Siamese?

ai kwai, Siam is very high status, it's pretige and exotic. It's opposite of Lao. LOL

[BinjbinjKai]

ai kwai, Siam is very high status, it's pretige and exotic. It's opposite of Lao. LOL

The last time I checked on the world map. It shows that Laos lean on top of Thailand.

[feezy]

At least Lanna people don't talk like siamese.

[LoveIsAllAround]

The last time I checked on the world map. It shows that Laos lean on top of Thailand.

It's Siamese. buk kwai !!! 555+

[LoveIsAllAround]

At least Lanna people don't talk like siamese.

LOL, come to Thailand and Laos and you will see everybody speak Thai Siamese.

[LoveIsAllAround]

why dissing the term "Siamese". don'g be ashamed of your ancestor name.

learn to read, nobody are ashame of being called Siamese. Even you are boasting about Siamese in Viet chat 5555+.

Only you who are ashame to be called LAO. That's why you are making lie that you are Tai/Thai

[Buddhalove]

Is their something wrong with being Siamese?

It is, that's why they're dissing Siam and changed to Thailand little bit 60 years ago.

[LilBinjbinj]

It is, that's why they're dissing Siam and changed to Thailand little bit 60 years ago.

Funny that they change Siamese to Thai. In general terms. We called this two face Siamese-Thai. They can change one moment to the other in just a blink of an eye!

This post has been edited by LilBinjbinj: Jan 25 2012, 07:58 PM

[LoveIsAllAround]

Lao = Khmuic-Tai

satisfy?

"The Khmuic people were among the first populations to settle in Laos. They were by and large absorbed by the later arriving Mon–Khmer and Tai ethnicities, except for small populations that migrated to the mountainous regions of Laos during the Tai migration into the region."

This post has been edited by LoveIsAllAround: Jan 26 2012, 08:42 AM

[LoveIsAllAround]

Origin of the Tai

Photograph of a contemporary aboriginal Taiwanese woman illustrating a vague resemblance in appearance to the modern Tai, although ethnic fusion has modified Tai physical features considerably over the millennia

Comparative linguistic research indicates that the Tai people were a Tai–Kadai-speaking culture of southern China, and that they, like the Malay-Polynesians, may have originally been of Austronesian descent.[7] Prior to inhabiting mainland China, the Tai are suspected to have migrated from a homeland on the island of Taiwan where they spoke an early Austronesian dialect.[7] After the arrival of Sino-Tibetan speaking ethnic groups from mainland China to the island of Taiwan, the Tai would have then migrated into mainland China, perhaps along the Pearl River, where their language greatly changed in character from the other Austronesian languages under influence of Sino-Tibetan and Hmong–Mien language infusion. The coming of the Han Chinese to this region of southern China may have prompted the Tai to migrate in mass once again, this time southward over the mountains of southern China into Southeast Asia via the mountains of Burma and Laos to the north of Thailand.[8] It is believed that the Tai ethnic groups began migrating southward from China and into Southeast Asia during the first millennium A.D. While this theory of the origin of the Tai is currently the leading theory, there is insufficient archaeological evidence to prove or disprove the proposition at this time, and the linguistic evidence alone is not conclusive. However, in further support of the theory, it is believed that the O1 Y-DNA haplogroup is associated with both the Austronesian people and the Tai.


OK, Lao is Malay, good job

[Buddhalove]

Siamese were mon/khmer. One oldest inhabitant of mainland south east asia.