Indonesia and Philippines, potential positive stories in 2006 Options

[Mulawin]

thats not true, you only have a low self-esteem for thinking that..indonesia rupiah is 9,500.00 equals to 1 US dollars, Philippines Peso is 51.00 equals to 1 US dollars..you do the math..we are more on level with Thailand..Thai baht is 39 to 1 US dollar or soemthing...Also in term of democracy, Philippines is topnotch in SEA, which cpuntry in Asia would you think put a college-dropout actor to presidency, and then later, oust him through people power..isnt that democracy..Singapore and Malaysia are more repressed in terms of freedom of expression and press..You better go get a shrink cause you remind me of terribly ignorant people who come and go in this forum...

yes its true.  countries like singapore, india, indonesia, and malaysia  always had a better economy & domocracy than us.  its like bangladeshis are tryin to cross india to get better job prospects, and on the same token.... filipinos are making hanap buhay sa ibang bansa like usa, dubai, ect.,  because they can make more money there.

[sango27]

can you see the big difference?
i just reacted because i observe many filipinos underestimating
the real situation of the country.. i believe
the situation in the country aint that pitiful as we are seeing in the
media... you see those slums in manila but what you dont is that
most of those people living there have almost complete set
of appliances and wears designer clothes and jeans...
thats the problem, they dont know where to spend their
money properly... thats why i dont believe 40% filipinos living below
poverty line.. are they basing it at the looks of the homes?
those slum pinoys can be more extravagant than the rich...lol

lol... many squatters in the Philippines even have DVDs and TVs and other appliances...

This post has been edited by sango27: Feb 10 2006, 05:00 AM

[Bohemian]

There are many factories here in the Philippines which many countries depend like the Intel Philippines where the Intel Processor Chip is manufactured and it is exported worldwide. Honda Philippines also manufactures motorcycles and exports it in the Southeast Asian Region.

As an archipelago based on agriculture, I think the Philippines should give more emphasise on both agriculture and fisheries. These two things're pretty much renewable. What if, say, Intel or Honda go bankrupt?

The Philippines used to have famous cigars, for example. Where are they now? So many things can be done in these 2 sectors. Don't forget, Iceland, Norway and several other countries' fishing industry is very big.

Going head to head on IT with India or manufacturing with the rest of Asia is a very risky option, because there are always countries capable of offering cheaper labour cost or other facilities.

[garzland]

i dont know but you overestimate indonesia too much....
i would rank philippines along side with indonesia but with the advantage
of bigger population and territory... malaysia and thailand are ahead...

Yeah, I do agree with you... The Philippines is along side with Indonesia and far ahead than Bangladesh... Even I have not yet been there, based on pictures of its capital city, Dhaka, still looks unpleasant and not so modern like mopst cities of the Philippines....

What is important is that the Philippines is on the right track now to be one of the best ....

[Kanlungan]

in terms of economy, corruption, yes... its more like bangladesh than indonesia. kahit ang entertainment industry sa indonesia malalaking budget. in fact,  observe all the korean & chinese shows in 'pinas thats dubbed in tagalog.

our entertainment industry doesnt have enough money  to put out its own homemade productions. 

on top of all that... ang bansa natin ay talagang mahirap.  my cousin is a high school teacher  & she only makes a total of $600 a month.  thats barely enough to feed her 3 teenage kids at my anak pa ang panganay niya.

i love my country but i dont deny that politics there is a joke.

Alam mo ba uyng Encantadia(ewan ko kung naabutan mo yun), 1 million pesos PER SHOOTING ang gastos nila.

[Kanlungan]

lol... many squatters in the Philippines even have DVDs and TVs and other appliances...

You forgot to add those "funky" mobile phones

[Najjiah]

Alam mo ba uyng Encantadia(ewan ko kung naabutan mo yun), 1 million pesos PER SHOOTING ang gastos nila.

you mean yung 'Etheria'? yung may mga diwata yun, di ba?

yeah pero aside from that, halos lahat na lang na pinapalabas sa tv ay mga korean, chinese, japanese, and even indian (channel 5) telenovelas all dubbed in tagalog. yung 'Sugo' at 'Etheria' ay magagaling na Pilipino shows pero mas sikat ang 'Jewel of the Palace.' anything chinese & korean is huge in the philippines right now. pati ba naman ang mga taxi sa maynila ay merong anting-anting na feng shui.

nun nandoon ako sa 'pinas addicted ako sa mga telenovalas. lahat kami sa bahay nanunuod... pati ang mga maid kasali. lol!

[Kanlungan]

Nah. Honestly speaking, mas pinaguusapan sa mga schools ang update sa Sugo at Atheria (Encantadia yung nauna). Sa TV lang siguro nanggaling yung perception mo na yun.

Don't worry. Some local soaps and movies are being shown in other SEA countries.

With regards to that "anting-anting" feng shui na sinasabi mo, bago pa sumikat ang F4 sa Pilipinas, sikat na ang Feng Shui sa Pilipinas. YUng bahay ng lolo ko sa Dagupan, pinafeng shui yun at itinayo yun bago ako pinanganak. Sana hindi ka rin magreklamo tungkol sa pagkain ng mga Pinoy ng Pansit, Siopao, Siomai at Lumpia

Besides, I prefer the dubbed telenovelas. Maraming kapuspalad pa rin ang nanonood ng telenovelas. Kung iisipin mo advantage ito sa side nila lalo na sa mga "illiterate".

Yung pagsikat ng Filipino telenovelas ay impact ng pagsikat ng Spanish telenovelas. Don't worry. One time, the Korean craze will fade away, just like what happened to the Mexican telenovela craze kung saan bawat main character ng Mex telenovela ay nagpupunta sa Pilipinas. Just like how the Taiwanese boyband f4 faded. Come to think of it, masmalupit yung craze ng Mexican telenovelas sa mga Pilipinas kesa sa mga Korean/Chinese telenovelas. Nagconcert pa nga dati sa Iloilo si "Fernando Jose". Kumanta pa nga at gumawa ng tagalog album si Thalia just to "please" her pinoy fans

This post has been edited by Kanlungan: Feb 11 2006, 07:35 AM

[Bohemian]

Heeey!! This thread started off in English about the Philippines and Indonesia but ended up in Tagalog and about telenovelas...

Let's get back to the topic! BTW, what were you guys discussing about??

[The Red Baron]

Heeey!! This thread started off in English about the Philippines and Indonesia but ended up in Tagalog and about telenovelas... 

Let's get back to the topic! BTW, what were you guys discussing about?? 

its because a bollywood lover started stating that philippine economy is at level
with that of bangladesh which is very ridiculous... 2
she also based the philippine economy with the budget our pinoy film producers
are spending in their projects... 2

[racoon]

Heeey!! This thread started off in English about the Philippines and Indonesia but ended up in Tagalog and about telenovelas... 

Let's get back to the topic! BTW, what were you guys discussing about?? 

i haven't seen you online on skype anymore, hehehe

[Bohemian]

i haven't seen you online on skype anymore, hehehe   

skype?? wth?

[racoon]

oh, sorry if that was not you.

[Bohemian]

oh, sorry if that was not you.

it's oke, buddy!

[Sapiryan]

yes its true.  countries like singapore, india, indonesia, and malaysia  always had a better economy & domocracy than us.  its like bangladeshis are tryin to cross india to get better job prospects, and on the same token.... filipinos are making hanap buhay sa ibang bansa like usa, dubai, ect.,  because they can make more money there.

IDIOT, the Philippines has a higher GDP then Indonesia. In fact the Philippines is doing better then Indonesia. Don't compare us to Bangladesh, by your sig. I can tell you would kiss desi @$$ every oppurtunity you can get.

[BatangDamo]

^ ejay, dude... if your gonna create multiple accounts make sure to stick to 1 and keep clean (meaning dont create a new account and still flame people, mods have banned you before so be good this time)

lol... many squatters in the Philippines even have DVDs and TVs and other appliances...

oh yeah, and dont forget cell phones (Mura kasi pag presyong nakaw)

This post has been edited by BatangDamo: Feb 15 2006, 11:40 AM

[Excuse_Me]

i dont think so. indonesia as a country is so much more economically stable than the philippines. ranking ng pilipinas ang bangladesh in terms of poverty.

for real. indonesia is more together as a nation than 'pinas.

Indonesia a more together nation than Philippines. I dont think so, they too ahve an ongoing civil war especially in the regions of Sumatra and in Papua New Guinea!!!

[The Red Baron]

Indonesia a more together nation than Philippines. I dont think so, they too ahve an ongoing civil war especially in the regions of Sumatra and in Papua New Guinea!!!

just forgive the lady, she only knew about what is happening in
Bollywood,,,, 2

[Bohemian]

Indonesia a more together nation than Philippines. I dont think so, they too ahve an ongoing civil war especially in the regions of Sumatra and in Papua New Guinea!!!

Ongoing war in SUMATRA?

Did you follow the news lately?

[Excuse_Me]

Ongoing war in SUMATRA? 

Did you follow the news lately?

oh wait that 29 years of civil war ended last year. ALthough there still unrest in locations such as Irian Jaya and Papua New Guinea!!!