Emperor Qianlong is badass. Options

[DewDrop]

http://teachingresources.atlas.uiuc.edu/ch...resource3_3.pdf

Enough said.

[Titanium]

This was before the British dumped Opium in China and humiliated the country.

Qianlong was a great emperor but not even he could predict the inevitable turmoil that was about to plague the nation.

[DewDrop]

"Does the Chinese Emperor regard the King of England as an equal?"

Are little children or college age students suppose to answer this question? :-)

hahaha :-)

This post has been edited by DewDrop: Apr 6 2011, 05:10 PM

[LittleDeathAngel]

Then, China got her @$$ kicked by a $hitload of European countries after they drugged the hell out of her with opium. >_>

Those douchebags. >_>

Makes me want to fly to England, dig up the old King's remains, and flush them down a random toilet.

This post has been edited by LittleDeathAngel: Apr 6 2011, 06:20 PM

[DewDrop]

I agree, my Great-grand father was addicted to British Opium, and despite being a wealthy landlord in Guangdong, he had to sell his children into slavery (my Grandfather), his house, his land, and all his furniture and assets to finance his addiction.

That pretty much ruined my family's fortune for at least 3 generations. :-(

Most people don't understand that Hong Kong was the drug trading post in the world... Just like America was built on the backs of dead indigenous tribes and black slaves, Hong Kong was built based on force feeding opium to million of innocent Chinese people.

No worries though, I expect to be the first to attain a college degree in my family a few months. :-)

This post has been edited by DewDrop: Apr 6 2011, 07:07 PM

[Seres1091]

Qianlong, "Emperor of China", so called, was a play boy and gave official offices to his friends; he supported many corrupt officials....

[Mid-Night_Sun]

most quotes from Chinese Emperors ive read use that tone. they had egos that made Kanye West look humble. or at least their official statements want to make them sound that way.

we should look past the tone though and see what is really happening.





I have consequently commanded my Ministers to enlighten your Ambassador on the subject, and have ordered the departure of the mission. But I have doubts that, after your Envoy's return he may fail to acquaint you with my view in detail or that he may be lacking in lucidity, so that I shall now proceed . . . to issue my mandate on each question separately. In this way you will, I trust, comprehend my meaning....

(3) Your request for a small island near Chusan, where your merchants may reside and goods be warehoused, arises from your desire to develop trade. As there are neither foreign hongs nor interpreters in or near Chusan, where none of your ships have ever called, such an island would be utterly useless for your purposes. Every inch of the territory of our Empire is marked on the map and the strictest vigilance is exercised over it all: even tiny islets and far­lying sand­banks are clearly defined as part of the provinces to which they belong. Consider, moreover, that England is not the only barbarian land which wishes to establish . . . trade with our Empire: supposing that other nations were all to imitate your evil example and beseech me to present them each and all with a site for trading purposes, how could I possibly comply? This also is a flagrant infringement of the usage of my Empire and cannot possibly be entertained.


(4) The next request, for a small site in the vicinity of Canton city, where your barbarian merchants may lodge or, alternatively, that there be no longer any restrictions over their movements at Aomen, has arisen from the following causes. Hitherto, the barbarian merchants of Europe have had a definite locality assigned to them at Aomen for residence and trade, and have been forbidden to encroach an inch beyond the limits assigned to that locality.... If these restrictions were withdrawn, friction would inevitably occur between the Chinese and your barbarian subjects, and the results would militate against the benevolent regard that I feel towards you. From every point of view, therefore, it is best that the regulations now in force should continue unchanged....

(7) Regarding your nation's worship of the Lord of Heaven, it is the same religion as that of other European nations. Ever since the beginning of history, sage Emperors and wise rulers have bestowed on China a moral system and inculcated a code, which from time immemorial has been religiously observed by the myriads of my subjects. There has been no hankering after heterodox doctrines. Even the European (missionary) officials in my capital are forbidden to hold intercourse with Chinese subjects; they are restricted within the limits of their appointed residences, and may not go about propagating their religion. The distinction between Chinese and barbarian is most strict, and your Ambassador's request that barbarians shall be given full liberty to disseminate their religion is utterly unreasonable.

It may be, O King, that the above proposals have been wantonly made by your Ambassador on his own responsibility, or peradventure you yourself are ignorant of our dynastic regulations and had no intention of transgressing them when you expressed these wild ideas and hopes.... If, after the receipt of this explicit decree, you lightly give ear to the representations of your subordinates and allow your barbarian merchants to proceed to Chêkiang and Tientsin, with the object of landing and trading there, the ordinances of my Celestial Empire are strict in the extreme, and the local officials, both civil and military, are bound reverently to obey the law of the land. Should your vessels touch the shore, your merchants will assuredly never be permitted to land or to reside there, but will be subject to instant expulsion. In that event your barbarian merchants will have had a long journey for nothing. Do not say that

From E. Backhouse and J. O. P. Bland, Annals and Memoirs of the Court of Peking (Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1914), pp. 322­331

http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/core9/ph...s/qianlong.html




The British were asking for favored treatment. An island near Chusan for trade. A site in Canton. And the freedom to spread Christianity. Emperor Qianlong explained why those requests were unacceptable.

Chusan - As there are neither foreign hongs nor interpreters in or near Chusan, where none of your ships have ever called, such an island would be utterly useless for your purposes.

Canton Site and Removal of Restriction - Hitherto, the barbarian merchants of Europe have had a definite locality assigned to them at Aomen for residence and trade, and have been forbidden to encroach an inch beyond the limits assigned to that locality....

Spreading Christianity - Even the European (missionary) officials in my capital are forbidden to hold intercourse with Chinese subjects; they are restricted within the limits of their appointed residences, and may not go about propagating their religion.


"supposing that other nations were all to imitate your evil example and beseech me to present them each and all with a site for trading purposes, how could I possibly comply?"


so not only was this a case of Chinese law, but

"Moreover, our dynasty, swaying the myriad races of the globe, extends the same benevolence towards all"

it would mean all the other Europeans could get the same. so they all get their own island, and special sites and spreading their religion.

[faydabakery]

Ironic that the Qianlong period's art had tons of European influence from the use of perspective, colors and style.

*gasp* Emperor Qianlong was a closet European lover! lol.

[Titanium]

Kangxi>>>>Qianlong

[MING-LOYALIST]

Qianlong was over arrogant and ignorant.

He thinks he and his Qing dynasty is the $hit but does not know that Russians are amassing troops towards siberia or British are building huge empire and that the spanish empire stretched right across the globe.

[Titanium]

Well he wasn't as bad as the Cixi Empress............I hope that b!tch is rotting in hell right now.

[melroseplace]

This was before the British dumped Opium in China and humiliated the country.

Qianlong was a great emperor but not even he could predict the inevitable turmoil that was about to plague the nation.

Jews plays a large role in this along with brits , check out david sassoon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Sassoon


Alert : DewDrop is systematically provoking hatred between Asian countries through internet forums, this is well known of, but I just put it here for the new comers.

[KraterosHellas]

King George 3 was pathetic. and his prime minister Lord North was even more so for losing america. incidently, they look exactly the same, like morons!