the existence of Catholic God, Does Catholic God really exist? Options

[three_kingdoms]

Look at this case of a white married pastor raping a Thai woman.

He told her that he would have her deported if she ever told anyone, and that no one would believe her if she complained cus he is a priest.

Asiaphilia seriously SUCKS. If you are Christian, please choose your church carefully and try to go to one tailored for your ethnic community.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/5518928/detail.html

Pastor Arrested On Rape Charge
Several Incidents Involving Same Victim, Officials Say

UPDATED: 10:45 am EST December 13, 2005

PARMA, Ohio -- Richard G. Manning, 48, senior pastor of Parma Baptist Church, was in court Monday in connection with one count of rape.


He was ordered held on $100,000 bond.

Officials said there have been several incidents with the same alleged victim since the beginning of November 2005, with the most recent incident occurring Friday.

Manning is a new pastor at the church, according to a news release. He came to Parma in 1998 from Oklahoma City. He also lived in Thailand for 15 years.


WEWS reported Manning told the victim, who is from Thailand, that he would have her deported if she told anyone about what was going on.

This post has been edited by three_kingdoms: Jan 18 2006, 02:57 AM

[sweetntwisted]

Old news but yea religious pervs suck!!!!!!

If you are Christian, please choose your church carefully

Better yet, dont go to church at all!!!!!

This post has been edited by sweetntwisted: Jan 18 2006, 03:02 AM

[susan12]

Look at this case of a white married pastor raping a Thai woman.

He told her that he would have her deported if she ever told anyone, and that no one would believe her if she complained cus he is a priest.

Asiaphilia seriously SUCKS. If you are Christian, please choose your church carefully and try to go to one tailored for your ethnic community.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/5518928/detail.html

In the name of God again!
Those church members are just so mighty.
How many innocent victims are there so far???

[RedStarOverChina]

I agree with you that IT IS THE TIME TO REBEL after knowning what all they Catholic priests have done to harm Children around the world.

Blind faith isn't good enough. If we still go on without questioning, one day Vatican will rule the world.  2

Well I'm glad you also see the problem.

We'll be looking at a theocracy in US in no time unless the progressive forces in US stop sitting on their yankee asses and do SOMETHING.

Who'd have thought, that 400 years after Galileo, 200 years after Marx, we still have to deal with this kind of bull$hit??

[susan12]

Old news but yea religious pervs suck!!!!!!
Better yet, dont go to church at all!!!!!

2 It is difficult to stop people going to church. Those priests and church leaders espcially Vatican know well.

Human technically divided into two part - body and soul.
If we get hurt physically, we need DOCTORS!
If we get hurt mentally, we need soul Doctors ( psychologist, priests ). And until now, the later still dominant in the society because it is free to see a priest - 2
But, people just don't know the church way - give you a little benefits( free priests listen to your confession), then get plentiful from you (peoples' donation). Vatican knows. That is why Vatican is so rich!

[sweetntwisted]

^ I know it's a social thing... people go to church for their problems and to see their friends...
they would feel so naked without "god"


It's time to burn some churches
(jk)

This post has been edited by sweetntwisted: Jan 18 2006, 03:21 AM

[susan12]

^ I know it's a social thing... people go to church for their problems and to see their friends... 
they would feel so naked without "god"
It's time to burn some churches 
(jk)

Yeap! It is time to burn some bad churches.

And it is time to question....

We did not question and believe ( blind faith ) for too long. That is why Vatican become so mighty - cover up and shift the criminal priests around the churches of different countries. So the same priests can abuse children in different location and country again and again without punishment.

[susan12]

2 I was wondering where is God when the below news happened?

Answer no. A) On holiday.
B) the devil temporary take place

What is your pick?

P.S. I can't give you other choice because the church taught us that God is mighty, God is benevolent, God is knows everything existing in the world.

Priest, Nun Convicted After 'Sex Act' in Car

BLANTYRE, Malawi (Reuters) - A Malawian court convicted a Catholic priest and a nun of disorderly conduct Thursday after they were caught engaged in a sexual act in a parked car with tinted windows.

The Malawian priest, 43, and the 26-year-old nun from neighboring Zambia spent the night in police cells after being caught in the act Wednesday, police said.

A court in the capital Lilongwe handed down suspended jail sentences of six months with hard labor after the pair pleaded guilty to charges of idleness and disorderly conduct.

"These people were caught in a sex act," Assistant Superintendent Kelvin Maigwa told Reuters.

Officials in the Roman Catholic Church, whose priests are barred from sex or marriage, declined to comment.
Passers by alerted police at Lilongwe International Airport after the parked Toyota Corolla, which had tinted windows, began shaking in what police described as "a funny manner."

[soro_i]

Catholic God?

All Abrahamic religions believe in the same God... Judaism, Christianity (all forms) and Muslim (all forms).

From Abrahamic religions, God is the creator of everything... You can probably make a conclusion, that all religions believe in the same God... Ppl around the world just named or imagined God differently.

The religious institutions are the one that make distinction about God.

This post has been edited by soro_i: Jan 18 2006, 06:44 AM

[pun187]

@susan12 If you deeply study our universe, you'll see that every thing culminates in a Creator. He is the ultimate and every thing is working under his guidance. If you look at different stages of human birth and growth, you see that as we go backward, we find we are moving towards weaker and weaker stage. Eventually we shall find that the growth starts from a clot of clinging substance. So human beings who themselves start from such a weak stage, how can they be their own creator. So it proves without any doubt that human beings are not their own creator. You see that if you start studying the birth process minutely, ultimately you'll find yourselve at the limit of your knowledge. At that stage, all the worldly knowledges will reach their limit and will be totally exhausted about what had actually happened ? So that is a stage where divine hand is working. Every scientist have to believe that all the processes of our universe ultimately reaches a point where their knowledge becomes inadequate to describe them.Some of the ppl believe that this universe was created just by chance and they also try to prove it through science. But God says that all those things that happens just by chance, they don't have such an order in them. Different colors are used together to make a picture. If you just throw the paints on a paper, will they ever make a picture ? It is true that sometimes some of the things are made by chance, but a close analysis of the universe clearly refutes the by chance theory. All right, for a moment, if we believe that matter was created by chance, and this world also came into being by chance, I will ask you susan to study deeply the creation of human beings, Is it possible that such a perfect being was created by chance ? See the stars, the planets, sun and then the creation of day and night. Every thing just fits, doesn't that orderliness speaks of a powerful creator ?

This post has been edited by pun187: Jan 18 2006, 07:27 AM

[soro_i]

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Can you summed up all that... with this?

"Don't constrain God's omnipoten with the size of your purty little head"

[Jaimu-Jaimu]

The existence of any sort of creator is highly dubious.
The existence of the God of Judeo-Christianity is outright impossible.

[susan12]

@susan12  If you deeply study our universe, you'll see that every thing culminates in a Creator. He is the ultimate and every thing is working under his guidance. If you look at different stages of human birth and growth, you see that as we go backward, we find we are moving towards weaker and weaker stage. Eventually we shall find that the growth starts from a clot of clinging substance. So human beings who themselves start from such a weak stage, how can they be their own creator. So it proves without any doubt that human beings are not their own creator. You see that if you start studying the birth process minutely, ultimately you'll find yourselve at the limit of your knowledge. At that stage, all the worldly knowledges will reach their limit and will be totally exhausted about what had actually happened ? So that is a stage where divine hand is working. Every scientist have to believe that all the processes of our universe ultimately reaches a point where their knowledge becomes inadequate to describe them.Some of the ppl believe that this universe was created just by chance and they also try to prove it through science. But God says that all those things that happens just by chance, they don't have such an order in them. Different colors are used together to make a picture. If you just throw the paints on a paper, will they ever make a picture ? It is true that sometimes some of the things are made by chance, but a close analysis of the universe clearly refutes the by chance theory. All right, for a moment, if we believe that matter was created by chance, and this world also came into being by chance, I will ask you susan to study deeply the creation of human beings, Is it possible that such a perfect being was created by chance ? See the stars, the planets, sun and then the creation of day and night. Every thing just fits, doesn't that orderliness speaks of a powerful creator ?

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So what do you think about the Catholic religion? Myself was a Catholic. I did believe it a lot and trust every word of the priests and the sisters teaching. But as age and knowledge grow, I saw their teaching in different way. I don't see them, most of them, teach and behavior the same way. Most of their teaching is not logical.

Let me recall my childhood experience. I was study in a Catholic school. I knew that the teacher ( the stupid priest) was the person who stole the money from the kids because one time I accidently saw him steal. As a child , I stupidly told him I saw him steal. Later, this sick priest called me up in front of all the class and taught me a lesson right in front of my classmates about stealing is bad. He twisted the story around and put me as a theft instead of him and punished me right in front of the everyone.

Back to the issue of the huge figure of the child abuse and crimes caused by the priests and the cover up. I must to make the following questions:

1. The existence of God
2. God is a tool of the priests and Vatican use to take advange from general public

[susan12]

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Can you summed up all that... with this?

"Don't constrain God's omnipoten with the size of your purty little head" 

Every priest teach us God is OMNIPOTENCE, BENEVOLENCE, AND ALL KNOWNING( knowing everything in the universe).

[skepticguy]

For decades, priests in this country abused children in parish after parish while their superiors covered it all up.

I know. But what does this have to do with the existence of a god?

I'll tell you.

Nothing.

[shiro]

Human technically divided into two part - body and soul.

According to who?
Break the circle.

[ATL.com]

Look at this case of a white married pastor raping a Thai woman.

He told her that he would have her deported if she ever told anyone, and that no one would believe her if she complained cus he is a priest.

Asiaphilia seriously SUCKS. If you are Christian, please choose your church carefully and try to go to one tailored for your ethnic community.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/5518928/detail.html

what does this mean exactly??

[skepticguy]

what does this mean exactly??

Didn't you get the memo?

Some folks want to turn back the clock, ATL. You know: "Separate but equal"?

[ATL.com]

The existence of any sort of creator is highly dubious.
The existence of the God of Judeo-Christianity is outright impossible.

oh this should be interesting.
why do you say it is outright impossible???

[shiro]

^ Omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence, and omnibenevolence.