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post Nov 17 2007, 04:06 PM
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What was/is your motivation for wanting to be one?
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post Nov 17 2007, 09:04 PM
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People I know see female engineers to be smart embarassedlaugh.gif

so that motivates me to become one especially since engineering is a male-dominant field.I want to prove that I can be as equally capable as those guys. shrug.gif

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post Nov 17 2007, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(theng @ Nov 17 2007, 09:04 PM) [snapback]3317707[/snapback]
People I know see female engineers to be smart embarassedlaugh.gif

so that motivates me to become one especially since engineering is a male-dominant field.I want to prove that I can be as equally capable as those guys. shrug.gif


Oh baby, I wanna make you mine right now icon_redface.gif
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post Nov 17 2007, 11:25 PM
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i wanna change things around here,i wanna change how ppl think about me

i wanna make sth significant too
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post Nov 18 2007, 02:12 AM
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I like the word E-N-G-I-N-E-E-R-I-N-G.....

HEHEHEHE i giggle everytime embarassedlaugh.gif
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post Nov 18 2007, 05:37 AM
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Hey is it true that electrical engineering is more hands on than Computer Science, and that Computer Science is really abstract? I think I'm more of a hands on type of guy, and I believe that if I'm going to have to retake C++ again, I'll probably have a hard time with the other upper level CS courses as well, slowing me down. So would electrical engineering or even better yet, computer engineering be easier to deal with, since it's hardware and everything. Also, my other alternative would be biology, I probably want to be a research assistant, and I hear it's like getting a psyche degree as an undergraduate, but I don't believe it's less broad as it is psychology. So help me out here.

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post Nov 18 2007, 10:19 AM
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In my personal experience going thru a EE major, I do believe that EE is more hands on than CS and CompE. While some areas of EE are fairly conceptual, there are lots of specializations that are very hands on such as power generation or circuits. As CS, it is definitely more abstract as you try to develop algorithms to systemize what it is you want to accomplish with software. This entails lots of programming in front of a computer. For ComE, there's also a fair amount of coding and logic. This means lots of logical designs and simulations in front of a computer as well. If you're more hands on and want to focus on this area of engineering, then I'd recommend EE.
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post Nov 18 2007, 12:54 PM
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Is Software Engineering considered "Engineering"?
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post Nov 18 2007, 01:10 PM
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^hmmmm.....

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post Nov 18 2007, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(questionnaire @ Nov 18 2007, 05:37 AM) [snapback]3318288[/snapback]
Hey is it true that electrical engineering is more hands on than Computer Science, and that Computer Science is really abstract? I think I'm more of a hands on type of guy, and I believe that if I'm going to have to retake C++ again, I'll probably have a hard time with the other upper level CS courses as well, slowing me down. So would electrical engineering or even better yet, computer engineering be easier to deal with, since it's hardware and everything. Also, my other alternative would be biology, I probably want to be a research assistant, and I hear it's like getting a psyche degree as an undergraduate, but I don't believe it's less broad as it is psychology. So help me out here.



QUOTE(SkylineC83 @ Nov 18 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]3318416[/snapback]
In my personal experience going thru a EE major, I do believe that EE is more hands on than CS and CompE. While some areas of EE are fairly conceptual, there are lots of specializations that are very hands on such as power generation or circuits. As CS, it is definitely more abstract as you try to develop algorithms to systemize what it is you want to accomplish with software. This entails lots of programming in front of a computer. For ComE, there's also a fair amount of coding and logic. This means lots of logical designs and simulations in front of a computer as well. If you're more hands on and want to focus on this area of engineering, then I'd recommend EE.


You know out of all those majors, CS is probably the one that would be remotely close to my interests. I like games a lot. EE is real rigorous, and I don't think it has many jobs related to the game industry for any position except maybe maintaining the wiring in the building? I think CompEng would also fit my interests, except that they have two mandatory requirements, one from Software Engineering that's for CS major, and one for CompEng, sheesh.

And I have to take lower level CS again C++ to get into a CompEng class, so that will probably slow me down. But looking at javascript or other languages you can kind've see connections with other languages. But what are the harder parts of CS? I know it's not the languages. There are other levels of CS that have languages that don't involve programming languages at all. Provide me some insight please.

Anyway, you think this is a good idea to do though? I mean I don't really tinker with equipment much, and have very little knowledge of technology, so I don't know if this will lead to job satisfaction. The thing is, I'm going to be earning all this money that I probably won't need when I'm well into a career in EE. That's I was just thinking of majoring in something smaller like microbiology. What sucks though is that broad that biology may be, at the bachelor's level, you don't get many job openings like in the classifieds, you won't see as many openings as EE. EE has more job opportunities. I hope there will also be research positions and that that field be stable.

QUOTE(ThePunisher @ Nov 18 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]3318541[/snapback]
^hmmmm.....

No


Oh that input helps, hehehe. Just kidding. Computer Science is more of a science no? It involves reasoning, solving problems, testing hypothesis and stuff? I'm just paraphrasing what I heard it could be. Hey, aren't you a computer engineer? I thought the work was harder for Computer Engineering, but it seems to involve just a mix of standard CS, EE, and Comp hardware design. Are the Comp Eng classes hard?

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post Nov 18 2007, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(questionnaire @ Nov 18 2007, 04:37 AM) [snapback]3318288[/snapback]
Also, my other alternative would be biology, I probably want to be a research assistant, and I hear it's like getting a psyche degree as an undergraduate, but I don't believe it's less broad as it is psychology. So help me out here.

Huh?

If you can't even pass C++, do yourself and others a favor and don't go into CS or CompEng or EE please.
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post Nov 18 2007, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(**J.I.S** @ Nov 18 2007, 01:59 PM) [snapback]3318587[/snapback]
Huh?

If you can't even pass C++, do yourself and others a favor and don't go into CS or CompEng or EE please.


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well im not sure if i get ur point exactly but im gonna tell u what i know from my experience:
electrical engineering is the most difficult one im not gonna lie its dam hard,but in EE,computer E may be little easier,but communication and control EE is the hardest of them all,dunno if u know what i mean.

CS is annoying as hell i think,i mean sure its fun sometimes,but some other times its just wierd to study,i mean computer E is kinda a mix between CS and hardware,the most annoying part is the CS one,u just cant get enough familiar with it no matter how u study,but after u finish a course,u feel like u get it at last if u know what i mean and it just seems waay easier than when u started it.

C++ is easy i think,im taking Java this semester,but anyway dont get disappointed i u failed acouple courses in the beggining,cuz realy no matter how interested u r in EE,when u join this feild,its like u r living on mars XD if u know what i mean,cuz the materials r not regular,good luck.
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post Nov 18 2007, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(ThePunisher @ Nov 18 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]3318620[/snapback]
come on now embarassedlaugh.gif

questionnaire:
well im not sure if i get ur point exactly but im gonna tell u what i know from my experience:
electrical engineering is the most difficult one im not gonna lie its dam hard,but in EE,computer E may be little easier,but communication and control EE is the hardest of them all,dunno if u know what i mean.

CS is annoying as hell i think,i mean sure its fun sometimes,but some other times its just wierd to study,i mean computer E is kinda a mix between CS and hardware,the most annoying part is the CS one,u just cant get enough familiar with it no matter how u study,but after u finish a course,u feel like u get it at last if u know what i mean and it just seems waay easier than when u started it.

C++ is easy i think,im taking Java this semester,but anyway dont get disappointed i u failed acouple courses in the beggining,cuz realy no matter how interested u r in EE,when u join this feild,its like u r living on mars XD if u know what i mean,cuz the materials r not regular,good luck.


You're right about CS, I think that's the generally feeling, some got through it but it was hell for them, as in hard. I even get that feeling with C++. I get satisfied that a program gets done, but working towards it can be frustrating as hell, especially when you try to make games on C++. Plus, I hear the interviews for programmers is that they test you on a program that you have to code, and if you don't meet their satisfaction, you don't get hired. Don't know if it applies everywhere though.

So Circuits is really that tough eh? And that's like the lower level of EE. Maybe it's like CS, or engineering in general. Do you pass classes more in the upper levels then if you understand the lower level classes? I hear it can work for those that aren't geniouses though. But I heard that from an electrical engineer major. It seems all people have their biases when it comes to their field, but I think it's cause that's what comes most easy to them. But this electrical engineer said EE is more easier to understand and do cause it's hands on than CS. Programming, you just end up programming all night. I hear EE makes it really hard for you in the last year, I'm assuming this is where EE can specialize like in communications or something. Still, I find it weird that Comp Eng is slightly easier, but you are a Comp Eng after all, and you probably made your decision when you took all the intro classes. But I think Comp Eng involves a lot of math what with the architecture and all, and it seems you have to use math to build things precisely. So maybe that's harder than EE eh? The thing I hate though is that our school requires like 2 senior projects for Comp Eng, but I guess it ain't so hard. And the other thing I get nervous about, is that the technology is rapidly changing, and it sounds too fast to keep up with all the new knowledge comp engineers have to learn, so I don't want my knowledge of CompE to be useless when I get out. Do you know what I mean?

Well I like games though, so maybe I will be around a crowd that shares my interests.

Anyway, how is Comp
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post Nov 18 2007, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(EweGene @ Nov 18 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]3318647[/snapback]
you barely need a hs diploma to pull wire let alone an engineering degree icon_neutral.gif
don't get me wrong, as refreshing as this comment seems in stark contrast to many others ascribing aspirations and motivations purely to money, i can't help but marvel at its absurdity -- the notion of you abandoning your pursuit in this field because it pays more than what's needed?!?!? confused.gif



That's true, I mean I heard that any guy without a college degree can be hired to do stuff like wiring, and that they won't get paid as much as one with say an EE degree. That is probably the whole point in going to college. I wonder if learning about the concepts of electricity is fun rather than just earning money.

I don't know why I'm reconsidering EE, it's because I don't have long term plans on getting married or living an expensive lifestyle. I'm just happy to live simply. But then you might have those parents that expect you to take care of them when you work. That should be too much though right? I know guys who were in EE, but they all seem to have long term goals in getting married and stuff. I'm just like TwistedLogic you can say, hahaha. But like I said, I cause learning how to build electrical equipment is what matters the most.
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post Nov 18 2007, 08:37 PM
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I really respect all you engineer
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QUOTE(ThePunisher @ Nov 18 2007, 02:24 PM) [snapback]3318620[/snapback]
come on now embarassedlaugh.gif

questionnaire:
well im not sure if i get ur point exactly but im gonna tell u what i know from my experience:
electrical engineering is the most difficult one im not gonna lie its dam hard,but in EE,computer E may be little easier,but communication and control EE is the hardest of them all,dunno if u know what i mean.

CS is annoying as hell i think,i mean sure its fun sometimes,but some other times its just wierd to study,i mean computer E is kinda a mix between CS and hardware,the most annoying part is the CS one,u just cant get enough familiar with it no matter how u study,but after u finish a course,u feel like u get it at last if u know what i mean and it just seems waay easier than when u started it.

C++ is easy i think,im taking Java this semester,but anyway dont get disappointed i u failed acouple courses in the beggining,cuz realy no matter how interested u r in EE,when u join this feild,its like u r living on mars XD if u know what i mean,cuz the materials r not regular,good luck.


Well CompE also is as theoretical as CS. I mean I saw the notes you had to study before a test on microprocessor design, and you seem to have a stressful time over it in the weekend topic. It's just a feeling of anxiety or something. I don't know I hear different perspectives, but I also hear that EE is either easy or hard from different people. I guess it depends. I was thinking of doing CompE, but I don't know how well I will apply the math on my own later on, and CompE has to take some classes that CS majors have to take like CS math, have you taken discrete math before? That thing makes me nervous. You do just need to know algebra thoroughly for that class right?
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post Nov 19 2007, 10:55 PM
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How much money you have simply depends on your lifestyle. I know people who make 40k a year who are very well off, I also know people making well over 150k who are in debt up to their eyeballs. I don't disagree that money is a big issue when choosing a career (but in this case, EE/CompE/CS salaries are relatively comparable)....but it should not be the be all, end all decision.
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