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Korea as seen through the movies, a closed society with lots of easily angered folks..
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post Jul 29 2011, 11:33 AM
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I recently watched some Korean movies, and what struck me is that Koreans - in particular Korean m, are nearly always portrayed as very hot-tempered in them.. jeez.. it's like they get mad so easily and are almost constantly on the defensive, I've heard that Koreans are seen as the Irish of Asia but I had not expected it to be that bad, they also seem to be quite hostile towards non-Koreans and/or non-Korean attitude too which could pose a problem as I don't speak any Korean at all.. umm I'm considering it might not be such a good idea to go and live in Korea.. I can even imagine myself being disappointed there just like boobu icon_neutral.gif

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post Jul 29 2011, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE (fivers @ Jul 30 2011, 12:33 AM) *
I recently watched some Korean movies, and what struck me is that Koreans - in particular Korean m, are nearly always portrayed as very hot-tempered in them.. jeez.. it's like they get mad so easily and are almost constantly on the defensive, I've heard that Koreans are seen as the Irish of Asia but I had not expected it to be that bad, they also seem to be quite hostile towards non-Koreans and/or non-Korean attitude too which could pose a problem as I don't speak any Korean at all.. umm I'm considering it might not be such a good idea to go and live in Korea.. I can even imagine myself being disappointed there just like boobu icon_neutral.gif


but why would you want to live in korea and not intend to learn to speak korean?
if they know u did try to learn and speak, they will appreciate your effort.
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post Jul 29 2011, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (zoopiter @ Jul 29 2011, 11:36 AM) *
but why would you want to live in korea and not intend to learn to speak korean?
if they know u did try to learn and speak, they will appreciate your effort.


because I find it damn difficult.. especially the alphabet, I secretly hoped I could get away with it speaking only English, but then I realised they would find me really odd if I didn't understand any Korean at all, uh oh..
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (zoopiter @ Jul 29 2011, 11:36 AM) *
but why would you want to live in korea and not intend to learn to speak korean?
if they know u did try to learn and speak, they will appreciate your effort.


She's just a troll, not really serious.
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE (WideAwake @ Jul 29 2011, 12:22 PM) *
She's just a troll, not really serious.


I'm not trolling at all lol, I'm really considering going to Korea and live there, and my interest in Korea is genuine and always will be icon_smile.gif but lately I'm getting this impression that perhaps until now I've romanticised this picture I've had of Korea way too much...
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post Jul 29 2011, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE (fivers @ Jul 29 2011, 12:41 PM) *
because I find it damn difficult.. especially the alphabet, I secretly hoped I could get away with it speaking only English, but then I realised they would find me really odd if I didn't understand any Korean at all, uh oh..
Learning Hangul is damn difficult? That's new. eek.gif Are you just lazy or what? lol Learning Korean grammar is hard so don't feel alone there but the phonetic letters? From what you've said so far, it sounds like you wouldn't be so adaptive and end up only looking for the expat bubble. Why move to Korea at all then unless you can get a decent job there? As for the movies, many well-acclaimed Korean movies have dramatized nitty-gritty miserable low-lives. Do American gang movies depict average American life?

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post Jul 29 2011, 01:38 PM
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I didn't make attempts at learning the alphabet yet.. merely because I find those signs confusing and guess I'm lazy also and not the brightest bulb either when it comes to learning an Asian language.. about the movies, they were not only gang related.. by "hot-tempered m" I was merely pointing at the "Korean men beating their wives stereotype" .. which doesn't seem to be a stereotype relying on air but actually quite close to the truth, sadly.. not that I'm intending to find a Korean husband but I find the fact that my biological family - I'm a Korean adoptee, might be quite Korean in its ways (stereotypically speaking) disturbing.. i.e. I would find it difficult getting to know them if they were wife beaters or looking down on me for whatever reason...

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post Jul 29 2011, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE (fivers @ Jul 29 2011, 11:41 AM) *
because I find it damn difficult.. especially the alphabet, I secretly hoped I could get away with it speaking only English, but then I realised they would find me really odd if I didn't understand any Korean at all, uh oh..


The fact is that learning a new language is a big challenge even if it's a language that your parents speak. Thus, the better choices for us Anglo-sphere Asians are Singapore, Hawaii, Vancouver, San Francisco, and Christmas Island. In any case, East Asia is overcrowded. It has no need for more people.

Instead of being dispersed everywhere, us overseas Asiatics should concentrate at certain locations.
- Western Canada
- Northwestern United States
- Northern California
- Hawaii
- Part of Australia
- Singapore shall be the capital.
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post Jul 29 2011, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE (fivers @ Jul 29 2011, 01:38 PM) *
I didn't make attempts at learning the alphabet yet.. merely because I find those signs confusing and guess I'm lazy also and not the brightest bulb either when it comes to learning an Asian language.. about the movies, they were not only gang related.. by "hot-tempered m" I was merely pointing at the "Korean men beating their wives stereotype" .. which doesn't seem to be a stereotype relying on air but actually quite close to the truth, sadly.. not that I'm intending to find a Korean husband but I find the fact that my biological family - I'm a Korean adoptee, might be quite Korean in its ways (stereotypically speaking) disturbing.. i.e. I would find it difficult getting to know them if they were wife beaters or looking down on me for whatever reason...


You're a troll.
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post Jul 29 2011, 01:59 PM
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Dang! I have never encountered anyone who considered Hangul a difficult alphabet. Compared to the alphabet used for English it is incredibly simplistic and logical, and English is my native tongue.
The only reason I could ever imagine that alphabet to be confusing was if you are dislexic, in which case ANY alphabet will be a nightmare to learn.
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post Jul 29 2011, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Jul 29 2011, 01:45 PM) *
The fact is that learning a new language is a big challenge even if it's a language that your parents speak. Thus, the better choices for us Anglo-sphere Asians are Singapore, Hawaii, Vancouver, San Francisco, and Christmas Island. In any case, East Asia is overcrowded. It has no need for more people.

Instead of being dispersed everywhere, us overseas Asiatics should concentrate at certain locations.
- Western Canada
- Northwestern United States
- Northern California
- Hawaii
- Part of Australia
- Singapore shall be the capital.


if Korea doesn't work out, then I'll go for Thailand which I already know (not the language though but I've never faced any discrimination in Thailand for not knowing Thai) and love icon_smile.gif


QUOTE (WideAwake @ Jul 29 2011, 01:47 PM) *
You're a troll.


yea yea you don't have to repeat it I know.. happy now? lol
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post Jul 29 2011, 02:09 PM
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bah, why am i bringing up dumb stereotypes embarassedlaugh.gif

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post Jul 29 2011, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (fivers @ Jul 29 2011, 02:38 PM) *
I didn't make attempts at learning the alphabet yet.. merely because I find those signs confusing and guess I'm lazy also and not the brightest bulb either when it comes to learning an Asian language.. about the movies, they were not only gang related.. by "hot-tempered m" I was merely pointing at the "Korean men beating their wives stereotype" .. which doesn't seem to be a stereotype relying on air but actually quite close to the truth, sadly.. not that I'm intending to find a Korean husband but I find the fact that my biological family - I'm a Korean adoptee, might be quite Korean in its ways (stereotypically speaking) disturbing.. i.e. I would find it difficult getting to know them if they were wife beaters or looking down on me for whatever reason...
This is stupid lol Do you think stereotypes are born only when like 5 in 10 do them? Even if only 1 in 10 do them, it is enough for a stereotype. Drunk wife-beater is an old stereotype. What about the stereotype of younger Korean guys putting their princesses on a pedestal? Also, when did I talk about gang movies except for the American low-life movie example? I'm saying Korean movie-makers love to depict miserable low-lives (gang or not) contrary to happy normal family. You just want to be with Asian population for your racial complex, don't you? Your laziness is not a good sign. You might as well follow AsiaticGlory's suggestion.

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post Jul 29 2011, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE (Taln @ Jul 29 2011, 01:59 PM) *
Dang! I have never encountered anyone who considered Hangul a difficult alphabet. Compared to the alphabet used for English it is incredibly simplistic and logical, and English is my native tongue.


True.

With only 24 basic characters, it's so easy to type something without using convert keys or arrow up/down, unlike other Asian languages.

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post Jul 29 2011, 02:52 PM
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yeah doggyji I see your point, but I don't really think you saw mine.. as an adoptee chances are my biological folks are lowlifes, hence the reason why they probably chose to not form a happy normal family with me.. I'm realistic about this as I don't believe in Oliver Twist stories.. thus when I hear stereotypes like the "drunk wife-beater" etc. I tend at first hand not to believe them because they are stereotypes but on the other hand I don't entirely dismiss them as they probably don't spring out of nowhere either.. people tend to attribute negative characteristics to the lower echelons of society in particular when it comes to stereotyping, not saying that it's a logical thing to do though.. or that I would look down on them for being lowlifes.. only that it would be very awkward if they did fit the stereotype...

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post Jul 29 2011, 02:58 PM
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Stop watching South Korean movies and start watching North Korean movies.
You will see lots of happy, kind people as much as you want.
All the North Korean movies have happy ending.
You may even want to pack and move to Pyongyang permanently.

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QUOTE (fivers @ Jul 29 2011, 03:52 PM) *
yeah doggyji I see your point, but I don't really think you saw mine.. as an adoptee chances are my biological folks are lowlifes, hence the reason why they probably chose to not form a happy normal family with me.. I'm realistic about this as I don't believe in Oliver Twist stories.. thus when I hear stereotypes like the "drunk wife-beater" etc. I tend at first hand not to believe them because they are stereotypes but on the other hand I don't entirely dismiss them as they probably don't spring out of nowhere either.. people tend to attribute negative characteristics to the lower echelons of society in particular when it comes to stereotyping, not saying that it's a logical thing to do though.. or that I would look down on them for being lowlifes.. only that it would be very awkward if they did fit the stereotype...
Apologies if I was too nosy. Well, nobody knows it until you face it, right? All I can do is wish you a good luck.
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post Jul 29 2011, 03:10 PM
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She will probably need lots of luck. For someone who thinks Hangul is difficult, nothing will be easy or rosy no matter she she goes. The best solution is just stay in the place where she is now.
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post Jul 29 2011, 03:10 PM
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no need for apologies, I wouldn't post on this if I didn't want to discuss abt it though, anyway thx I hope I'll find them one day though icon_smile.gif

rvsp, lol@North Korean movies
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post Jul 29 2011, 03:42 PM
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Apologies if I was too nosy. Well, nobody knows it until you face it, right? All I can do is wish you a good luck.


You made her sad, now you have to take care of her Doggyi.

We might have a love connection here folks! Fivers and Doggyi, may you guys be happy forever. XO XO




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