do they look australian aboriginal?? Options

[kermit_criminal]

wtf im not tagalog...i don't have problems with luzon people...I just have problems with stuck up manilenos

what the hell would you know about manilenos, you live in VA. you are probably a military brat

This post has been edited by kermit_criminal: Aug 11 2011, 11:46 PM

[martin_nuke]

If fact people in Manila are mixed with all kinds of Filipinos from Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao and there are also Mestizos, Tsinoys, Amboys, etc... and they all converge in Manila and overcrowding it in the process that is why I do not want to live in Manila I rather live in the mountains for more serenity.

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[ocrapdm]

LOL there were no tagalogs at the time when Philippines was first settled by austronesians

LOL there is another website claiming the borneans fought the ati when they first arrived...it was only after bartering with the negrito leader did the fighting stop
so you claiming fact from a lone website is nothing

But there were Tagalogs already when the Bornean Visayans came. So apparently, it's just right that the true natives - the Tagalogs and Luzon people - rule the Philippines.

It's just plain impossible that no mixing happened. Panay is so small.

[ocrapdm]

If fact people in Manila are mixed with all kinds of Filipinos from Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao and there are also Mestizos, Tsinoys, Amboys, etc... and they all converge in Manila and overcrowding it in the process that is why I do not want to live in Manila I rather live in the mountains for more serenity.

Precisely. Most Chinese, Caucasians, and other foreigners in the Philippines all live in Manila. In the process, most modern Manilenyos are a combination of native Tagalog (and/or Visayan / Pampango / Ilocano), Chinese, and Spanish. The Manilenyos therefore, are the most cosmopolitan people in the rest of the archipelago.

Unlike in Antique where the people are mixed migrant Bornean and Ati.

[DPSlock]

But there were Tagalogs already when the Bornean Visayans came. So apparently, it's just right that the true natives - the Tagalogs and Luzon people - rule the Philippines.

It's just plain impossible that no mixing happened. Panay is so small.

borneans were a back migration from earlier migrations of austronesians to borneo from Philippines....I was talking about when Philippines was 1st settled by austronesians...not when the back migration happened
I didn't say no mixing happened....Im saying it was minimal at best
LOL you take things in extreme.....

[DPSlock]

Precisely. Most Chinese, Caucasians, and other foreigners in the Philippines all live in Manila. In the process, most modern Manilenyos are a combination of native Tagalog (and/or Visayan / Pampango / Ilocano), Chinese, and Spanish. The Manilenyos therefore, are the most cosmopolitan people in the rest of the archipelago.

Unlike in Antique where the people are mixed migrant Bornean and Ati.

LOL in reality...Manila is basically rich chinese and poor australoids...with austronesin(visayan,ilocano,pampangan) in the middle

lol ocrap you know its wrong to claim your opinions as facts right...just because 2 individual races live in the same area does not mean they will both mix to such extremes...if what you say is true there would be no more visible atis left...and thats not true...
most historians agree that bornean migrants and atis lived seperately...

lol how many mixed ati u know who look like this....



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[Graham_Cracker07]

Found this pic while looking through some of my cousins facebooks. Definitely a lot of Australoid admixture in there...




and they're from Bicol, which is very close to the Visayas.

[DPSlock]

Found this pic while looking through some of my cousins facebooks. Definitely a lot of Australoid admixture in there...




and they're from Bicol, which is very close to the Visayas.

lol bicol is in luzon..and not all of them look australoid admixture
from that picture 3 or 4 look slightly austra admixture...though not as austra as poor people in manila

[Graham_Cracker07]

lol bicol is in luzon..and not all of them look australoid admixture
from that picture 3 or 4 look slightly austra admixture...though not as austra as poor people in manila

You act like there's some wall between Luzon and the Visayas. You put too much stock into regions. Bicol is strongly connected to the Visayans culturally. And some of the people in the pics are definitely more Australoid than people in Manila.

[DPSlock]

You act like there's some wall between Luzon and the Visayas. You put too much stock into regions. Bicol is strongly connected to the Visayans culturally. And some of the people in the pics are definitely more Australoid than people in Manila.

again not all of them look austra mixed...the guy in the middle picture to the left doesn't look austra....he just looks like a really dark southern mongoloid
the top and bottom do look austra

there is no wall...but an ocean seperating visayas from luzon...only way through that is by boat...hence why austronesians are everywhere in the Philippines

[ocrapdm]

Found this pic while looking through some of my cousins facebooks. Definitely a lot of Australoid admixture in there...




and they're from Bicol, which is very close to the Visayas.

LOL. Those faces REPRESENT THE AVERAGE FILIPINO!

There's obviously AUSTRALOID ADMIXTURE IN ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE THERE! ONLY ejay/DPSLOCK DENIES IT!!!!

Manila people tend to look a lot more Asian than these Australoid-looking peoples you find in the parts of the Philippines outside of Manila.

[DPSlock]

LOL. Those faces REPRESENT THE AVERAGE FILIPINO!

There's obviously AUSTRALOID ADMIXTURE IN ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE THERE! ONLY ejay/DPSLOCK DENIES IT!!!!

Manila people tend to look a lot more Asian than these Australoid-looking peoples you find in the parts of the Philippines outside of Manila.

lol orlly

Manila/s finest courtesy of Graham...they sure do look more asian then people outside of Manila huh
only the chinese in manila look asian....












and an australoid looking woman from Visayas....she looks nowhere near asian compared to those manila people...LMAO


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[Graham_Cracker07]

again not all of them look austra mixed...the guy in the middle picture to the left doesn't look austra....he just looks like a really dark southern mongoloid
the top and bottom do look austra

there is no wall...but an ocean seperating visayas from luzon...only way through that is by boat...hence why austronesians are everywhere in the Philippines

I have a feeling that all you do is look at someone's eye shape to determine if they're Australoid or Mongoloid. Dont you know that when you mixed two groups, some people will have some features from one group, and some features from another. Just because someone has small Mongoloid eyes, doesn't discount the other Australoid features. The guy in the middle has the biggest, flattest nose out of all of them, but all you focus on is the eyes.

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[DPSlock]

I have a feeling that all you do is look at someone's eye shape to determine if they're Australoid or Mongoloid. Dont you know that when you mixed two groups, some people will have some features from one group, and some features from another. Just because someone has small Mongoloid eyes, doesn't discount the other Australoid features. The guy in the middle has the biggest, flattest nose out of all of them, but all you focus on is the eyes.

flat nose is also present amongst other southern mongoloids...caucasian like nose is not an southern mongoloid feature...papuans have the straightest most aquiline nose..yet they are australoids



here are some real western visayans from antique..taken from my cousin's facebook



whats funny is according to ocrap everyone outside manila is austra...and everyone in manila looks asian
whats ironic is the people who look closest to papuans are the people within manila...

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[kermitcriminal]

flat nose is also present amongst other southern mongoloids...caucasian like nose is not an southern mongoloid feature...papuans have the straightest most aquiline nose..yet they are australoids



whats funny is according to ocrap everyone outside manila is austra...and everyone in manila looks asian
whats ironic is the people who look closest to papuans are the people within manila...

good point. both races have varying degrees of flat nosed people. plenty of east asians have flat noses, and negritos can have flat noses too. just like the bushmen of africa can have asian-like eyes, as well as native americans

[DPSlock]

good point. both races have varying degrees of flat nosed people. plenty of east asians have flat noses, and negritos can have flat noses too. just like the bushmen of africa can have asian-like eyes, as well as native americans

the only real way to tell if one is australoid is through their skullshape

I have seen filos with very austra features...and they are very distinguishable from the typical austonesian look....ocrap has not been outside of luzon...so his experience with the different types of phenotypes of filos is limited

to him its all simple...every dark skinned filo(even if they have no australoid features) is australoid and every light skinned filo is chinese or mixed chinese
he bases this not on scientific research....but based soley on assuming every light skinned filo is chinese mixed

and he always uses karafet study...even though he knows full well that studies were done on ethnic minority subjects and half of the subjects came from negrito groups...he dismisses the 9 other studies because he disagrees with them..he chooses to use 1 study because it goes with his theory even though he is using a chart of ethnic minorities to represent the genetic breakdown of the majority??

[DPSlock]

You act like there's some wall between Luzon and the Visayas. You put too much stock into regions. Bicol is strongly connected to the Visayans culturally. And some of the people in the pics are definitely more Australoid than people in Manila.

of course according to ocrap those students above are pure ami..even though 1 of them is indistinguishable from an aeta

there goes your theory of the more southern you are the darker/more australoid you are

students from my hometown in antique

average people in Iloilo



woman from Samar...yeah ocrap she really does look like those poor in Manila.....not



woman from Mindanao



This post has been edited by DPSlock: Aug 14 2011, 11:53 AM

[ocrapdm]

the only real way to tell if one is australoid is through their skullshape

I have seen filos with very austra features...and they are very distinguishable from the typical austonesian look....ocrap has not been outside of luzon...so his experience with the different types of phenotypes of filos is limited

to him its all simple...every dark skinned filo(even if they have no australoid features) is australoid and every light skinned filo is chinese or mixed chinese
he bases this not on scientific research....but based soley on assuming every light skinned filo is chinese mixed

and he always uses karafet study...even though he knows full well that studies were done on ethnic minority subjects and half of the subjects came from negrito groups...he dismisses the 9 other studies because he disagrees with them..he chooses to use 1 study because it goes with his theory even though he is using a chart of ethnic minorities to represent the genetic breakdown of the majority??

of course according to ocrap those students above are pure ami..even though 1 of them is indistinguishable from an aeta

there goes your theory of the more southern you are the darker/more australoid you are

students from my hometown in antique

average people in Iloilo



woman from Samar...yeah ocrap she really does look like those poor in Manila.....not



woman from Mindanao

OK fine. Live in your dream world where Filipinos look East Asians!

And btw, some of the people in your Iloilo pic are ETHNIC CHINESE. Iloilo has a lot of Ethnic Chinese. I have lots of [Chinese] relatives over there! Hehehe. Who are you kidding?

[kermitcriminal]

you guys are way too concerned with skin color. you are men amirite?

[DPSlock]

OK fine. Live in your dream world where Filipinos look East Asians!

And btw, some of the people in your Iloilo pic are ETHNIC CHINESE. Iloilo has a lot of Ethnic Chinese. I have lots of [Chinese] relatives over there! Hehehe. Who are you kidding?

LOL sure ocrap...whatever floats your boat
those r pics of normal everyday people you see in Iloilo....not ethnic chinese...the only one who isn't ordinary is the girl in red..
how do u have relatives there when your a tagalog??