Vietnam, US enhance naval ties Options

[asaiofinest]

US Rear Admiral Ron Horton Commander of Task Force 73 and sailors from the visiting destroyer USS John S. McCain are greeted by Vietnamese naval officers during a welcoming ceremony at Tien Sa port. Doctors aboard the USS John S. McCain on August 11-12 worked with area health care providers to offer free check-ups and medicines to around 1000 people in Da Nang.

[MisterPopo]

SRV is looking for the assistance from third nation the american always wish be a balanced of powers in Asia the military capacity from VN especially the naval capacity is pretty low and poor compared with china.

But China navy is totally in the age stone compared with USN

[asaiofinest]

The U.S also knows that Vietnam don't like China at all because the situation of Paracel Islands in the present time. Moreover, Cam Ranh Bay is still the U.S most interested place because it is the best deterrent for the U.S resistance and Vietnam to against China.

[asaiofinest]

Vietnam is not alike China. It's very possible that Vietnam will be an ally with the U.S in a decade or so. Remember, any thing could be possible.

[SoCal]

Please do not forget about 1974 (Hoang Sa), 1979 (Border War), and 1988 (Truong Sa) when Viet Nam was attacked by China 3 times.

In case you don't know where Da Nang / Cam Ranh is, here it is.

[MisterPopo]

Shut up SoCrap

The U.S also knows that Vietnam don't like China at all because the situation of Paracel Islands in the present time. Moreover, Cam Ranh Bay is still the U.S most interested place because it is the best deterrent for the U.S resistance and Vietnam to against China.

The US crimes are a fact but Vnmese government never protests because the Viet communist party wish basically three things influence in Laos / Cambodia and the sea in 1971 Mao Zedong tell the Americans about the "North Vietnamese empire menage" but in this moment was the cold war and Chinese / Americans decided do the War together against Vietnam with Moscow support but today the Soviet Union is gone.

VN no wish conflicts with China and China no Wish conflict with US the American are looking from the oil who have the South China sea if US help VN to take back the Sea who stole the Chinese early the 70s and 80s the Americans oil companies will be have the main concessions in the Area But China strategy can be offer the same to the Americans.



This post has been edited by MisterPopo: Aug 16 2010, 02:15 AM

[DarthNihilusss]

Please do not forget about 1974 (Hoang Sa), 1979 (Border War), and 1988 (Truong Sa) when Viet Nam was attacked by China 3 times.

In case you don't know where Da Nang / Cam Ranh is, here it is.

please shut up for once SoCrap

[matigasngulo]

Shut up SoCrap



The US crimes are a fact but Vnmese government never protests because the Viet communist party wish basically three things influence in Laos / Cambodia and the sea in 1971 Mao Zedong tell the Americans about the "North Vietnamese empire menage" but in this moment .

VN no wish conflicts with China and China no Wish conflict with US the American are looking from the oil who have the South China sea if US help VN to take back the Sea who stole the Chinese early the 70s and 80s with the Americans oil companies will be have the main concessions in the Area But one China strategy can be offer the same to the Americans.

If they can't even think of negotiating with the ASEAN, giving American company rights in their (in that case) sovereign territory is highly improbable.

[asaiofinest]

Shut up SoCrap



The US crimes are a fact but Vnmese government never protests because the Viet communist party wish basically three things influence in Laos / Cambodia and the sea in 1971 Mao Zedong tell the Americans about the "North Vietnamese empire menage" but in this moment was the cold war and Chinese / Americans decided do the War together against Vietnam with Moscow support but today the Soviet Union is gone.

VN no wish conflicts with China and China no Wish conflict with US the American are looking from the oil who have the South China sea if US help VN to take back the Sea who stole the Chinese early the 70s and 80s the Americans oil companies will be have the main concessions in the Area But China strategy can be offer the same to the Americans.

Please do not quarrel and cursing. Be polite and back up your thoughts with facts or reasons.

[asaiofinest]

Today Vietnam faces a new threat from a remilitarized China. Our history suggests the U.S. has good reason to believe that Vietnamese nationalism can be useful in maintaining stability in a strategically critical part of the world. Vietnamese nationalism, however, has always been strongest and most reliable when the Vietnamese government was on the side of the people

[SoCal]

Please know that China sees the East Sea / Viet Nam like Taiwan, Tibet, Xinjiang. When was the last time that China ever fought a nation recently, except Vietnam?





http://www.riskwatchdog.com/2010/08/11/sou...at-is-at-stake/



In late July, the US entered the fray, saying that it is willing to mediate in the dispute. This greatly angered China, which regards the South China Sea as an internal matter. Indeed, Beijing now views the South China Sea as one of its ‘core interests’ of territorial integrity, alongside Taiwan, Tibet, and Xinjiang province.

[matigasngulo]

Actually, the only thing one has to do is to post China's claim on the Central Sea.

It's quite very embarrassing to see such obvious greediness, but most Westerners are too lazy to learn the names of the surrounding countries.

[asaiofinest]

Actually, the only thing one has to do is to post China's claim on the Central Sea.

It's quite very embarrassing to see such obvious greediness, but most Westerners are too lazy to learn the names of the surrounding countries.

It sure is intriguing to think about the possibilities, what role will Russia play in this? China has been upgrading its land-based missiles, expanding its submarine force and nuclear arsenal, the Pentagon's annual report to Congress said. The dragon has grown some fangs and soon will be looking for opportunities to use them

[asaiofinest]

Robert Scher, the US deputy assistant secretary of defense for South and Southeast Asia, met Lieutenant General Nguyen Chi Vinh, Vietnam's deputy minister of defence, for talks in Hanoi on ways to enhance co-operation by the two sides, stepped up co-operation by holding their first high-level defence dialogue, amid concerns over China's military build-up. Please feel free to join the discussion in this thread. Any thoughts are welcomed. Please do not quarrel and cursing. Be polite and back up your thoughts with facts or reasons.

[matigasngulo]

It sure is intriguing to think about the possibilities, what role will Russia play in this? China has been upgrading its land-based missiles, expanding its submarine force and nuclear arsenal, the Pentagon's annual report to Congress said. The dragon has grown some fangs and soon will be looking for opportunities to use them

Aren't VN and India Russia's best customers now - since selling to Iran & china could have some side-effects lol

[asaiofinest]

There are increasing voices among Chinese historians claiming territorial rights over Okinawa, the Japanese island where the U.S. has a massive military base. China, which seems to have claimed the entire, South China Sea has argued against Vietnam, Malaysia and The US access to its Exclusive Economic Zone there, it is also suddenly entering a phase of cautious strategic rivalry with the US to dominance all of Asia and to the east of the peninsula. Asean should be the forum to resolve territorial disputes in the South China Sea, where islands and waterways, highly prospective for oil and gas, and a huge strategic zone through which goods are shipped, are contested between China, Vietnam, Malaysia and The Philippines. China and the US are becoming more active in military.

[matigasngulo]

Obviously Superior Chinamen will know that bogus claims let you go no where.

If they are a real "World Power" they would waste their time by having their Carrier Battle Group cruise on the Cali shore, not thugging around their Asian neighbours.

[Asianfrog]

There are increasing voices among Chinese historians claiming territorial rights over Okinawa, the Japanese island where the U.S. has a massive military base. China, which seems to have claimed the entire, South China Sea has argued against Vietnam, Malaysia and The US access to its Exclusive Economic Zone there, it is also suddenly entering a phase of cautious strategic rivalry with the US to dominance all of Asia and to the east of the peninsula. Asean should be the forum to resolve territorial disputes in the South China Sea, where islands and waterways, highly prospective for oil and gas, and a huge strategic zone through which goods are shipped, are contested between China, Vietnam, Malaysia and The Philippines. China and the US are becoming more active in military.

Don't forget claims about Siberia !

[asaiofinest]

Have you heard of Core Interests people in China believe that the chance to grab the South China Sea and the Yellow Sea has now arrived. As the largest interested party and the most influential country in the dispute the US and Asean, Vietnam's strategic thinking is based on challenging China it attributes the slow economic recovery and development to the abundant cheap goods imported from China, and criticizes China for dumping goods into its market, but has to depend on China out of real demands, which resulted in its ambiguous and contorted diplomatic attitude toward China. We should try to weaken the confrontation from other aspects.

This post has been edited by asaiofinest: Aug 27 2010, 07:18 PM