Morality Options

[gicheru]

just b/c we would have guilt about such things doesnt mean everyone would...

I know! That's why stuff like the Holocaust still happens and will happen. What "moral code" do you suppose Nazis were following?

and it's easy for people like me and you to guilty about these things when we have such comfortable lives and are able actually eat on a daily basis... but if we were put into situations where we were hungry enough we would kill to eat.

Please consider my other examples. Like when you're on a stage in front of people you don't know. Essentially you're the one being judged by the ethics of the community, thus the uncomfortable feeling and the guilt/awkward feeling.

You would still feel guilty once you got some food in your stomach. It's just that when you're hungry, you stop caring about things you normally would and all you care about is food.

hell of it b/c you have an invisable cloak or b/c you can would make you pretty pathetic.

There is no strict code of morality though. It's just a guideline, the main thing that keeps you in line is other people.

[sweetntwisted]

@manun well I dont believe in god.

and you're right, society cannot see you and you would get away with it.

So a.
b/c I personally would feel guilt for doing something that I consider to be 'wrong' especially b/c I'm not poor and I'm not that desperate for 'power' or whatever gain it is especially if it will involve killing someone.

Please consider my other examples. Like when you're on a stage in front of people you don't know. Essentially you're the one being judged by the ethics of the community, thus the uncomfortable feeling and the guilt/awkward feeling.

you would stop feeling guilty once you get of the stage. or if you have the power of manipulation you can turn them into your followers, like Jesus did... ok LOL I'm going off topic.

There is no strict code of morality though. It's just a guideline, the main thing that keeps you in line is other people.

thats fine by me as long as 'other people' consists of the majority and not just the 'powerful', the fortunate and the manipulative.

This post has been edited by sweetntwisted: Apr 11 2006, 05:30 PM

[PervertBurger]

I'm too hungry to care about morality.
Someone feed me plsssssssssss
I'm dying...

[sweetntwisted]

No.

[Jaimu-Jaimu]

I don't agree that morality is simply a social construct.

[shiro]

^ Yes you do.
We've been through this.

[Jaimu-Jaimu]

^ Yes you do.
We've been through this.

Don't tell me what I think.
I still didn't think it was a social construct even if we took away the objectiveness of it. Personal morality comes before social morality.

[Manun]

its an evolutionary design! EVERYTHING IS

[Jaimu-Jaimu]

its an evolutionary design! EVERYTHING IS

Is it something that has come to be out of nothing or did we always have a morality that evolved into something more complex?

[Suijen]

Maybe morality is practicality.

Hell, if no laws stopped me, I'd do a $hitload of crazy stuff.

[Manun]

Is it something that has come to be out of nothing or did we always have a morality that evolved into something more complex?

I think it was something like bacterias have right now with auto inducing mechanism.
When they realise there are alot of bacterias around some of them would prolifirate slower but they wont move away from the food source.

Small background what im talking about:
Bacterias releases something called auto inducer which is a substance other bacterias can sense with receptors knowing there are bacterias around. If there are alot of auto inducers then there are alot of bacterias, to stop competing with eachother some of them will proliferate (divide) slower to make it possible for the other to survive. Bacteria philosophy : As long as one survives. (the simpliest philosophy )

[Jaimu-Jaimu]

^ So you see original morality as a very basic system where survival of the species is the over-riding governance and certain behaviour would best serve this purpose?

[Bixie]

Get away with robbing a bank? Of course! Who wouldn't?

But there's a line obviously; I wouldn't kill someone or physically harm someone.

[shiro]

Don't tell me what I think.
I still didn't think it was a social construct even if we took away the objectiveness of it. Personal morality comes before social morality.

“how come the only one who understands me is the damn relativist!”

don't make me find that thread

[Jaimu-Jaimu]

“how come the only one who understands me is the damn relativist!”

don't make me find that thread

That was agreement on a small point.

[shiro]

somewhere in that thread you 180'd when you realized you were arguing in favour of relativism

[gicheru]

What's wrong with morality being a social construct? A human is not human unless there other humans around.

[lovelytruth]

I'm too hungry to care about morality.
Someone feed me plsssssssssss
I'm dying...

I think i feel you haha.The feeling is sometimes powerful than the morality!!!
You should check this http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=71224

[Jaimu-Jaimu]

somewhere in that thread you 180'd when you realized you were arguing in favour of relativism

One of my points was slightly relativist. That's all.
@lovelytruth - Shut up already.

This post has been edited by Jaimu-Jaimu: Apr 13 2006, 11:34 AM

[gicheru]

@lovelytruth - Shut up already.