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Southren thai= malay?
JiwaAmdanNegara
post Sep 11 2010, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE (Esfandiari @ Aug 27 2010, 05:18 PM) *
Remember 1841? Kedah invaded Pattani, the Thais rallied. Britain immediately declared Kedah aggressors, and instantly launched a sea blockade of Kedah. Kedah lost and the rest is history. And TODAY, if Malaysia is the first to commit aggression against that country by invading it, the WHOLE WORLD will rally around Thailand....the US, UK, UN, ASEAN..to name a few. You think Malaysia can handle the world? Didn't you see what happen to Saddam's Iraq?

Hi Esfandiari. Remember Sultan Mansur Shah some time in the 15th century? He sent Melakan forces to invade Patani and Pahang, and to liberate them from Ayutthayan hegemony, he succeeded. Only Patani was annexed again, several centuries later.

Who says the whole world will rally around Thailand if someone liberates Patani? Patani was illegitimately annexed by Thailand anyway. I'm not saying anyone should go invade and liberate Patani tomorrow, but as a matter of principle, the Patani people has a legitimate right to pursue independence. Just like the people of Kosovo, or Timor Leste, or Bosnia-Herzegovina. The ex-kingdom of Patani was thousands of years older than the present kingdom of Thailand. As a part of the ancient Langkasuka, it was already around in the early centuries AD, whereas the first sovereign Thai kingdom Sukodhaya, or Sukothai, only arose around 1230 AD.

By the way, not only Patani has independence aspirations in Thailand. There is also Issan in the north, which would rather be either independent or join up with Laos. While both Myanmar and Cambodia has claims on much of Thailand teritory.

QUOTE (Esfandiari @ Aug 27 2010, 05:18 PM) *
Nope, you suggestion is just like asking Malaysia to commit suicide. Malaysia should just leave Thailand alone. The Thais are already having a large handful of problems even without us provoking them, both external and internal problems. Internally, they are fighting both the Malays (southern Thailand insurgency in Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat) and THEMSELVES (the Red Shirts vs Yellow Shirts, the pro-Thaksin vs the anti-Thaksin group, urban wealthy elites vs the rural poor masses, the monarchists vs the latent anti-monarchists, etc). Externally, the are having problems with Cambodia and even Myanmar to some degree. We don't want to be the cause for Thailand to rally itself, do we? I think a better way is to provide covert support for Malay separatists, and to keep denying if the Thais suspect it. And if they invade us first, then we have legitimate right to fight them.

Both you and Syed Hussein seem to have reproduced certain doctrines of Sun Tzu, whether intentionally or otherwise. Both have a bit of the armchair general in him. Well, who doesn't? I agree, Malaysia as it is does not have the strength to even think of an invasion. On the other hand, Thailand is not that strongly and widely united right now, although much of them could rally in the face of external threat or provocation, like you said.

Legitimate or illegitimate is often a subjective view. Depends on who you're talking to, and whose side you're on. BTW, if Malaysia is not strong enough to invade someone, then Malaysia is also not strong enough to resist an invasion from someone. It's like a footbal team in the EPL, or the Bundesliga, or the Primera Liga, or Serie A. If you don't have the strength to attack, then you can't survive for long under attack either. It's all related.

Moral of story: We need 200 more Sukhoi MD30s, 10 more Scorpenes and 200 more frigates/warships/destroyers, to have any proper chance of bearing up to a sustained external attack.

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post Sep 11 2010, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE (SyedHussein @ Aug 25 2010, 11:49 PM) *
First we smuggled a number of rockets into Souther thailand. Then use this rockets to attack Malaysia border town like Bukit kayu hitam or Pekan Wang Kelian from inside Thailand border. Then we make a fuss about the presence of Anti-malaysian rebels based in Southern Thailand and the inability of the Thai authority to stop them. then using this pretext, we unilateraly send a spearhead of our invading army and gained control of all patani provinces. We keep the thai police as it is to make it look's like that we were there not as occupiers but as a peacekeeper. then we draw a long stretch withdrawal plan citing a lot of difficulties in moving equipments and manpower out of Thailand and we also stress on "early withdrawal" will emboldened the terrorist.

You have some interesting ideas, for an armchair general. LOL. Been reading Sun Tzu, haven't you?

It could work, actually. If we can assure ourselves of enough force and power to counter and repulse a Thai counter-invasion from the north.
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post Sep 12 2010, 06:31 AM
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QUOTE (JiwaAmdanNegara @ Sep 11 2010, 10:24 AM) *
Moral of story: We need 200 more Sukhoi 38s, 10 more Scorpenes and 200 more frigates/destroyers, to have any proper chance of bearing up to a sustained external attack.



1.Bribed the Russian with access to ports on the east coast of peninsula m'sia you`ll will most probably get your 200 Sukhoi
2.UK is near bankrupt , you can get bargains for your Scorpions & Frigates/Destroyers.


Good Luck

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post Sep 12 2010, 11:22 AM
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If Pattani gets her independent so can Isaan north East Thailand aswell. Both people and culture has been abused by Siamese or Central Thai power long enough to the point where Thai nationalism became too much of a power and there society has been thought to look down on us both people even today. Thai strong central power and nationalism has already showed how they are against it neighbors soverneighty from history to language differences.
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post Sep 12 2010, 11:42 AM
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Why do people like to generalize South Thais as being Muslim and Malay? That's bull$hit. I'm not against Muslim and Malay people, but most Southern Thais are Buddhist Siamese! Only in the southernmost provinces on the border to Malaysia Muslim Malay people from the majority.
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post Sep 13 2010, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE (tengkukuning @ Sep 12 2010, 06:31 AM) *
1.Bribed the Russian with access to ports on the east coast of peninsula m'sia you`ll will most probably get your 200 Sukhoi
2.UK is near bankrupt , you can get bargains for your Scorpions & Frigates/Destroyers.


Good Luck

Oh, yes! We do need a port in the north east. Would fit in perfectly with that proposed gas pipeline linking Tumpat (or is it Bachok?) in Kelantan to Yan in Kedah, supposedly to be paid for with PETRONAS money. Wonder what's happened to that project. Seems to have gone cool after Pak Lah's departure.

Your idea is interesting, especially considering that Russia is already currently a major supplier of our military hardware.

So you reckon the Russians could be that generous, do you? Would depend on how good Najib would be at playing his game with Vladimir, I guess. So far I haven't seen or heard anything much happening between them two, since Najib became PM.

I think right now Najib is more inclined toward conducting a charm offensive on the US, so Russia is like being put on the back burner for the moment. He's even won a promise from Obama for Malaysia to come aboard the the next US-led Cobra war games with selected SEA countries, I think. But still, if I recall correctly, the purchases of our MIG 29s, then later the Sukhoi 30s, were both made during Najib's tenure as Defence Minister.

I was actually talking of Scorpene the French submarine, rather than Scorpion the British tank. But since you've mentioned it, yeah, we could always do with 200 - 400 Scorpions too. Yeah, a bit ambitious, I know.

2. Funny you've mentioned UK going bankrupt. I's just reading an article from AFP, in today's New Straits Times, about the flourish of American economists in Washington, hawking dire predictions that the world's numero uno economy (US) is on the verge of collapse, amidst high rates of unemployment and a spiralling public budget deficit. The grand guru of this US economic-doomsday prophecy is Nouriel Rubini, who shot into the limelight after he correctly predicted the chaos that would be wrought by the American subprime mortgage crisis and the collapse of the US residential property bubble.

"The US has run out of bullets," Roubini told an economic forum in Italy earlier this month. "Any shock at this point can tip you (the US) back into recession." Yet other economists, who have so far stayed out of the media limelight, are also proselytising similar calamitous visions of the future (for the US).

A possible future major shock is a trade/economic clash between slowing-down economic superpower US and relentlessly rising economic superpower China, which holds nearly US$1 trillion in US Government Treasury bonds.

Sorry I digressed. Just thought you might be interested.

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post Sep 13 2010, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE (PingLing @ Sep 12 2010, 11:42 AM) *
Why do people like to generalize South Thais as being Muslim and Malay? That's bull$hit. I'm not against Muslim and Malay people, but most Southern Thais are Buddhist Siamese! Only in the southernmost provinces on the border to Malaysia Muslim Malay people from the majority.

Easy, dude. I think that guy meant the 4 provinces of Patani, Yala, Songkhla and Narathiwat, i.e. the territories of the former Patani Sultanate. Since much of the news about the present unrest seems to prefer the term 'Southern Thailand'.

Anyway, if you keep bringing in Buddhist Thai migrants constantly into the south, the entirety of it will eventually also become Buddhist-majority territory. You just do the maths.

BTW, weren't the first Siam/Seam people a southern hybrid of ethnic T'ai, Mon, Khmer and Malay?

The people of Nagara Sri Dharmaraja (Nakhon Si Thammarat), and some other regions slightly further north of Patani Sultanate, were ethnically Malay too. But they remained as Buddhists, and did not convert to Islam like the people of Patani Sultanate, and today you consider them as 'Siam/Seam'.

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QUOTE (JiwaAmdanNegara @ Sep 13 2010, 09:54 AM) *
Oh, yes! We do need a port in the north east. Would fit in perfectly with that proposed gas pipeline linking Tumpat (or is it Bachok?) in Kelantan to Yan in Kedah, supposedly to be paid for with PETRONAS money. Wonder what's happened to that project. Seems to have gone cool after Pak Lah's departure.

SOMEBODY MUST IGNITE THE INTEREST OF THE RULING ELITES TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT SOONER THAN LATTER. THE BRITSH & JAPANESE USED TUMPAT AS A PORT EXTENSIVELY BEFORE THE 2ND WORLD WAR. INDUCEMENT FOR THE RUSSIANS WITH THEIR SUKHOI & MIGS STATION IN GONG KEDAK,PASIR PUTEH, KELANTAN (many Russians technicians living & working already).GONG KEDAK AIRPORT=BRITISH,AUSTRALIAN USED IN WW2 AND COVERT OPERATION DURING VIETNAM WAR.

Your idea is interesting, especially considering that Russia is already currently a major supplier of our military hardware.

So you reckon the Russians could be that generous, do you? Would depend on how good Najib would be at playing his game with Vladimir, I guess. So far I haven't seen or heard anything much happening between them two, since Najib became PM.

RUSSIANS (THEIR SUPPORT FOR THEIR EASTERN FLEET IN VLADISVOSTOK) ANXIOUS TO COUNTER WEIGHT CHINA & US (BOTH ARE IN THAI,PHILL,CAMBODIA,LAOS & EVEN VIET NOW).

I think right now Najib is more inclined toward conducting a charm offensive on the US, so Russia is like being put on the back burner for the moment. He's even won a promise from Obama for Malaysia to come aboard the the next US-led Cobra war games with selected SEA countries, I think. But still, if I recall correctly, the purchases of our MIG 29s, then later the Sukhoi 30s, were both made during Najib's tenure as Defence Minister.

I was actually talking of Scorpene the French submarine, rather than Scorpion the British tank. But since you've mentioned it, yeah, we could always do with 200 - 400 Scorpions too. Yeah, a bit ambitious, I know.

FRENCH ECONOMY ARE ALSO IN BAD SHAPE (signs e.g they are now hard on immigrants & NON white french)-YOU MIGHT GET BARGAINS.

2. Funny you've mentioned UK going bankrupt. I's just reading an article from AFP, in today's New Straits Times, about the flourish of American economists in Washington, hawking dire predictions that the world's numero uno economy (US) is on the verge of collapse, amidst high rates of unemployment and a spiralling public budget deficit. The grand guru of this US economic-doomsday prophecy is Nouriel Rubini, who shot into the limelight after he correctly predicted the chaos that would be wrought by the American subprime mortgage crisis and the collapse of the US residential property bubble.

"The US has run out of bullets," Roubini told an economic forum in Italy earlier this month. "Any shock at this point can tip you (the US) back into recession." Yet other economists, who have so far stayed out of the media limelight, are also proselytising similar calamitous visions of the future (for the US).

A possible future major shock is a trade/economic clash between slowing-down economic superpower US and relentlessly rising economic superpower China, which holds nearly US$1 trillion in US Government Treasury bonds.

Sorry I digressed. Just thought you might be interested.

THANK YOU.THATS INFORMATIVE.


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post Sep 21 2010, 02:23 AM
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say what if Malaysian ask help from Indonesian,,,

perhaps we are willing to help fight Thailand if Malaysian relinquish several territorial claim, we might also willing to sponsor the Pattani to join Malaysia as 14th states of Malaysia

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QUOTE (shad0w @ Sep 21 2010, 02:23 AM) *
say what if Malaysian ask help from Indonesian,,,

perhaps we are willing to help fight Thailand if Malaysian relinquish several territorial claim, we might also willing to sponsor the Pattani to join Malaysia as 14th states of Malaysia

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Yes ,pending agreement & concensus of all the population. Patani is more than happy to be the part of malaysia but with its own Raja or Sultan and/or Chief , details to be agreed e.g maybe an autonomous region. Malaysia will be enriched with wealth and culture . biggthumpup.gif beerchug.gif

-The region, just a few hours drive from some of the country's most famous beach resorts, is rich in rubber plantations and contributes about 10 percent of the output in Thailand, the world's biggest producer and exporter of rubber.

holiday@patani/mnaro
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QUOTE (hitmonxiong @ Jul 29 2010, 02:33 AM) *
I think the 3 southern provinces were formerly part of Malaysia. The annexation probably took place shortly after world war 2

the southern 3 provinces were Thai since Ayutthaya kingdom .... - -* and also early Rattanakosin Kingdom.
those people also claim themselves "thai" otherwise they would have protest for the military who are fighting the terrorists to get out from their home already.
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Bangkok Thai hate southern muslim Thai. They maybe nice to you in your face, but will talk $hit behind your back like the do all the time with us Lao. They even called us pi-nong! How stupid and a hypercrite these Thais today are.

QUOTE (BestRice @ Oct 5 2010, 02:16 AM) *
the southern 3 provinces were Thai since Ayutthaya kingdom .... - -* and also early Rattanakosin Kingdom.
those people also claim themselves "thai" otherwise they would have protest for the military who are fighting the terrorists to get out from their home already.


Southern Thailand was actually apart of Malaysia. Not Thailand!
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Buddhists Fear Muslims in Southern Thailand: http://www.aina.org/news/20090807120625.htm

The image of Thailand is one of beautiful beaches and stunning Buddhist places of worship. However, in recent times this nation is blighted by political infighting, mass demonstrations, a delicate economy which fluctuates too much, and a devastating Islamic insurgency in southern Thailand.

It is the Islamic insurgency which I will concentrate on because the current crisis in southern Thailand does have wider consequences for Southeast Asia. After all, you have Christian-Muslim tensions in parts of Indonesia and the Philippines. Therefore, the situation is southern Thailand is very important both internally and externally.

The vast majority of people in Thailand belong to the Buddhist faith; however, southern Thailand is very different because most people are Muslim in the provinces of Yala, Narathiwat, and Pattani. Therefore, a major Sunni Muslim insurgency is currently igniting tensions in order to drive away the Buddhist minority and therefore lay the foundation of separation and independence from Thailand.

The radical Sunni Islamic insurgency desires to spread fear, hatred, and an area where Buddhism is eradicated just like what happened in Afghanistan or what is happening in the Chittagong Hill Tracts in modern day Bangladesh.

Therefore, the brutal Sunni Islamic insurgency is killing both moderate Muslims and Buddhists for different reasons. The reason for killing Buddhists is because certain elements within radical Sunni Islam do not believe in religious co-existence. Also, Buddhists are deemed to be infidels and within Islamic Sharia law they have no legal rights and conversion to Islam or death is sanctioned because they are not monotheists.

Given this, southern Thailand resembles modern day Afghanistan and Somalia because in both these nations you have radical Sunni Islamists who will not tolerate even one single Christian church or Buddhist temple. Therefore, the slaughter of Buddhists in southern Thailand is following a similar pattern of past and current history and the current anti-Buddhist onslaught in southern Thailand is reaching new heights.

At the same time moderate Muslims are being killed by radical Sunni Islamic fanatics. Given this, Muslim teachers, administration workers, or anyone deemed to be working with the government of Thailand is liable to face the threat of death. This fear is real and the methodology of killing is intended to spread fear to all who oppose the Islamization of southern Thailand.

The dream of radical Sunni Islamists in southern Thailand is to have a land with no Buddhists and to create an Islamic Sharia state. Therefore, the usual beheadings of innocents is deemed to be justified on the grounds that non-Muslims are infidels in accordance with the Koran and Hadiths.

This applies to the Koran for 9:29 states "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth of the people of the Book (Jews and Christians) until they pay jizya (tax on non-Muslims) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued."

Verse 9:73 in the Koran also states "O Prophet! Strive hard (wage war) against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell, -- an evil refuge indeed." While the Hadith 9:4  says "Wherever you find infidels kill them; for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."

It is clear that these sayings in both the Koran and Hadiths are still potent today because radical Islamists are spreading mayhem in many nations and this also applies to nations with small minorities. After all, Christians have been burnt alive in Pakistan despite being a small minority and several Christian leaders were beheaded recently in northern Nigeria in order to intimidate the sizeable Christian population in northern Nigeria.

Zachary Abuza, the author of "Militant Islam in Southeast Asia," stated that Buddhists have been forced to flee in a "de facto ethnic cleansing." He further continued by stating that "The social fabric of the south has been irreparably damaged."

Meanwhile Sunai Phasuk, a political analyst at Human Rights Watch, commented that "Buddhist monks have been hacked to death, clubbed to death, bombed and burned to death." Therefore, it is clear that this Sunni Islamic insurgency is following a familiar path and this applies to the destruction of all non-Muslim elements within society or the complete dhimmitude of all non-Muslims by the rule of fear.

>From the Sunni Islamic insurgents point of view they believe that the former Sultanate of Pattani is the structure of their society and that Thailand had no right to annex this land. Also, many Muslims claim that they face discrimination and that they have been marginalized by the central state. Therefore, many Muslims desire independence from Thailand.

However, the degree of violence aimed at both the Buddhist community and any Muslim deemed to be in favour of the government of Thailand is brutal. Zachary Abuza states "What is new about the current conflict is the level and degree of violence, the Islamist agenda of the insurgents, and their unprecedented degree of cooperation and coordination.

He continues by saying that "The level of violence in Thailand's south has never been higher" and this can be seen clearly by the beheadings of Buddhists and hacking to death of Buddhist priests. Zachary Abuza also states this, for he says that "Nor has it been more brutal" and this is what is worrying for Thailand and the region.

After all, you have many Sunni Islamic insurgencies or Sunni Islamic terrorist networks in Southeast Asia. Therefore, you have the threat of these different organizations working together in order to install radical Sunni Islam. This notably applies to Eastern Indonesia (particularly Maluku) and Mindanao in the Southern Philippines.

In Eastern Indonesia and Mindanao in the Southern Philippines it is a clash between Christians and Muslims and the nation state is much weaker in both areas. However, in Indonesia the majority of Muslims support a more moderate version of Islam but in recent times radical Sunni Islam is increasing and Sunni Islamic jihadist movements have targeted both Christians and foreign nationals.

The most notable movement in the region is Jemaah Islamiya which is often linked with Al Qaeda and this Sunni terrorist Islamic organization desires to create more chaos and hatred in order to spread its influence and obtain its ultimate objective. This objective, just like the radical Sunni Islamic objective in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, and other nations, is to create an Islamic Sharia state and enforce the slavery of non-Muslims by a policy of dhimmitude.

Zachary Abuza also mentions that Salafist and Wahabbi influence is also growing because moderate Sunni Muslim leaders have been sternly rebuked or attacked by conservative Sunni Islamists. Also, it is noticeable that more women are covering up in purdah and clearly this will lead to even more cultural divisions within society in Southern Thailand.

Abuza has claimed, "They [insurgents] have killed and threatened imams who have performed funerals for Muslim collaborators and killed almost 10 imams who teach at government-funded Islamic schools. They have threatened parents to not send their children to any school but the private Islamic schools. They have forced businesses closed on Fridays. Suffis and moderate Sha'afis have been routinely targeted."

However, overall Zachary Abuza hints that the main cause in Southern Thailand is internal and currently Jemaah Islamiya is not strong enough to export its violence on a major scale to Southern Thailand. Also, Jemaah Islamiya is primarily focused on Indonesia and the security forces in Indonesia are fully aware about this problem.

Overall, it is clear that elements within Southern Thailand desire a non-Buddhist land and the role of Sunni Islamic indoctrination is now turning its hatred against moderate Sunni Muslim leaders. This hatred and alienation of the younger generation began after many studied at international universities throughout the Middle East and clearly some funding from the Middle East is being used to spread radical Sunni Islamic versions of Islam.

The government of Thailand is at a loss about the current crisis because of internal convulsions within the political system. At times the military have responded with brute force in order to contain the insurgency in Southern Thailand but at other times a more moderate approach is enforced.

Yet from a wider perspective it is clear that you have many radical Sunni Islamic terrorist organizations in Southeast Asia and terrorist networks survive and flourish in failed states or where centralization is very weak. Therefore, the future of Southern Thailand is also an issue for Indonesia and the Philippines because both nations have internal problems with radical Islam.

Also, the heart of Islam is now at war with itself and moderate versions in Southern Thailand and Indonesia are being put under tremendous pressure in certain regions. Therefore, the hidden war in Southern Thailand by radical Sunni Islamists is being aimed at moderate Muslims and Buddhists alike.

However, for the Buddhists, they face complete annihilation and one day Southern Thailand may end up like Afghanistan, Central Asia, and other areas which once had a thriving Buddhist community. It would appear that Islamization is now a reality and in time the Buddhist minority will continue to dwindle and the only saving grace at the moment for Buddhists is the military of Thailand.

By Lee Jay Walker
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I guess I need you, baby
And everytime I see you in my dreams
I see your face, you're haunting me
I guess I need you, baby


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teri yad men pagal pal pal rota hai
every moment it weeps like a madman in memories of you

bin tere na jage yeh na sota hai
without you it neither wakes nor sleeps

aksar tanhai men tujhe pukare na zor dil pe chale
it constantly calls for you in its loneliness force won t work on the heart

hare hare hare ham to dil se hare
defeated defeated i was defeated by my heart

teri yad men pagal pal pal rota hai
every moment it weeps like a madman in memories of you

bin tere na jage yeh na sota hai
without you it neither wakes nor sleeps

aksar tanhai men tujhe pukare na zor dil pe chale
it constantly calls for you in its loneliness force won t work on the heart

hare hare hare ham to dil se hare
defeated defeated i was defeated by my heart

ab jane ham yeh pyar kya hai
now we know what this love is

dard-e-jigar mushkil bada hai
heartbreak is so difficult

sunta nahin kahana koi bhi
it doesn t listen doesn t heed anyone

dil pe khabar zid men adha hai
the heart only recognizes half of the story in its stubbornness

samjhaun kaise use janejan
how shall i explain to it my love

hare hare hare ham to dil se hare
defeated defeated i was defeated by my heart

har aina thotha lagta hai sach bhi hamen jhutha bhi lage hain
every mirror seems empty even truth seems like a lie

jane kahan ham a gae hain sara jahan rutha lage hai
who knows where we now find ourselves it s as if the whole world is grieving

kya dard dil ne diya kya kahen
what pain this heart has caused how can i tell you

hare hare hare ham to dil se hare
defeated defeated i was defeated by my heart

teri yad men pagal pal pal rota hai
every moment it weeps like a madman in memories of you

bin tere na jage yeh na sota hai
without you it neither wakes nor sleeps

aksar tanhai men tujhe pukare na zor dil pe chale
it constantly calls for you in its loneliness force won t work on the heart

hare hare hare ham to dil se hare
defeated defeated i was defeated by my heart


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Zara Zara-little little


Zara zara bahekta hai, mahekta hai
little little temptation, full of fragrance

Aaj to mera tan badan, main pyaasi hoon
today is my body , I am thirsty

Mujhe bhar le apni baahon mein
take me in your arms

Hai meri kasam tujhko sanam, door kahin na jaa
Take oath on my life my love, don't go anywhere far

Yeh doori kehti hai paas mere aaja re
these distances are requesting you to come close to me

Yunhi baras baras kaali ghata barse
May the dark clouds keep raining heavily like this

Hum yaar bheeg jaaye is chaahat ki baarish mein
when my love are drained in the rain of love

Meri khuli khuli laton ko suljhaaye
you try to smoothen my open hairlocks

Tu apni ungliyon se main to hoon isi khwaahish mein
with your fingers , that is what I desire

Sardi ki raaton mein hum soye rahe ek chaadar mein
In the cold nights we sleep together under one sheet

Hum dono tanha ho, na koi bhi rahe is ghar mein
we two should be alone, there shouldn't be anyone at home


Zara zara bahekta hai, mahekta hai
Aaj to mera tan badan, main pyaasi hoon
Mujhe bhar le apni baahon mein
take me in your arms

Aaja re aa re
Come,please do come

Tadpaaye mujhe teri sabhi baatein
all your talks make my heart throb


Ek baar ae deewane jhootha hi sahi pyaar to kar
Love me just once even if it is not true my love

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Main bhooli nahin haseen mulaaqaatein
i haven't forgotten our sweet meetings

Bechain karke mujhko mujhse yun na pher nazar
making me restless, don't turn your eyes away now

Roothega na mujhse, mere saathiya yeh vaada kar
You will never be angry with me , promise my love

Tere bina mushkil hai jeena mera mere dil mein
Without you life is difficult to live
Zara zara bahekta hai, mahekta hai
With little temptation, full of fragrance

Aaj to mera tan badan, main pyaasi hoon
today is my body , I am thirsty


Mujhe bhar le apni baahon mein
take me in your arms

Hai meri kasam tujhko sanam, door kahin na jaa
Take oath on my life my love, don't go anywhere far

Yeh doori kehti hai paas mere aaja re
these distances are requesting you to come close to me

Aaja aa re
Come, do come



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Send "Paris" Ringtone to your Cell

Coming back from Paris on the train
I really didn't care if the journey took all day
Trying to turn the pages of my magazine
While trying to keep a hold of your hand

And ordering an coffee that i wouldn't ever drink
Just to keep you and Paris on my mind
Just to keep you and Paris on my mind

I didn't know it would be the last time
The last time i saw you

At Waterloo we went our separate ways
When i got in my cab i didn't turn and wave
Didn't go to work just went to bed
Trying to keep you and Paris on my mind
Trying to keep you and Paris on my mind
I didn't know it would be the last time
The last time i saw you

I phoned your office this afternoon
They said they hadn't heard anything from you
It's been seven days without a word
I have to keep you and Paris on my mind
I have to keep you and Paris on my mind
I didn't know it would be the last time
The last time i saw you

Going back to Paris on the train
Raining and without you it's not the same
I have to do this journey one more time
Just to keep you and Paris on my mind
Just to keep you and Paris on my mind
I didn't know it would be the last time
The last time i saw you

The last time i saw you
The last time i saw you
The last time i saw you
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Time can never mend the careless whispers of a good friend
To the heart and mind, ignorance is kind
There's no comfort in the truth
Pain is all you'll find

Should've known better

I feel so unsure
As I take your hand and lead you to the dance floor
As the music dies, something in your eyes
Calls to mind the silver screen

And all its sad good-byes

I'm never gonna dance again
Guilty feet have got no rhythm
Though it's easy to pretend
I know your not a fool

Should've known better than to cheat a friend
And waste the chance that I've been given
So I'm never gonna dance again
The way I danced with you

Time can never mend
The careless whispers of a good friend
To the heart and mind
Ignorance is kind
There's no comfort in the truth
Pain is all you'll find

I'm never gonna dance again
Guilty feet have got no rhythm
Though it's easy to pretend
I know your not a fool

Should've known better than to cheat a friend
And waste this chance that I've been given
So I'm never gonna dance again
The way I danced with you

Never without your love

Tonight the music seems so loud
I wish that we could lose this crowd
Maybe it's better this way
We'd hurt each other with the things we'd want to say

We could have been so good together
We could have lived this dance forever
But no one's gonna dance with me
Please stay

And I'm never gonna dance again
Guilty feet have got no rhythm
Though it's easy to pretend
I know your not a fool

Should've known better than to cheat a friend
And waste the chance that I've been given
So I'm never gonna dance again
The way I danced with you

(Now that you're gone) Now that you're gone
(Now that you're gone) What I did's so wrong
That you had to leave me alone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGoWtY_h4xo
Look into my eyes - you will see
What you mean to me
Search your heart - search your soul
And when you find me there you'll search no more
Don't tell me it's not worth tryin' for
You can't tell me it's not worth dyin' for
You know it's true
Everything I do - I do it for you

Look into my heart - you will find
There's nothin' there to hide
Take me as I am - take my life
I would give it all I would sacrifice
Don't tell me it's not worth fightin' for
I can't help it there's nothin' I want more
Ya know it's true
Everything I do - I do it for you

There's no love - like your love
And no other - could give more love
There's nowhere - unless you're there
All the time - all the way

Don't tell me it's not worth tryin' for
I can't help it there's nothin' I want more
I would fight for you - I'd lie for you
Walk the wire for you - Ya I'd die for you

Ya know it's true
Everything I do - I do it for you

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