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[LoveIsAllAround]

If you are referring to the people of Cambodia being called siamese, no one claims that lol we are proving that the rulers and culture practiced by these people come from Siam.

But anyway, Spanish founded mexico (taking it from the Aztecs. Mayans are south of mexico in the region of Peru) they forced the populace to practice spanish culture. oh and they are known as HISPANIC not spaniards lol but either way it points to being spanish culture. They dont call themselves Aztecs anymore! why? because they are now Hispanic lol

As for calling them Indians... THEY AREN'T INDIANS! the word term Indian has been used wrongly for centuries because Columbus though he was in India!! you bring a great example of how stupid westerners can be when dealing with a subject they are not familiar with. And because they have been called Indian for so long, everyone uses it and thinks its a correct term to use. Kind of like Khmer empire don't you think? lol

Khmer empire has been coined for 200 years. Everyone believes its a Khmer empire. Why is there so much evidence to contradict this? the original people who found the site never thought it was a Khmer empire. Actually no one prior to the French arrival believed in a Khmer empire lol the term Khmer empire was coined by the french and reused time and again until everyone believes it is true.

But tell me. What is a Khmer, where did it come from, and when did it appear in history?

nice one

It would take this thread a thousand pages for them to realize that they are brainwashed by French made history.

[SabaiSabai]

nice one

It would take this thread a thousand pages for them to realize that they are brainwashed by French made history.

Maybe more lol its hard to remove 200 years of brainwashing. That and their fake history is all they have left. But then again perhaps if they can let go of their fantasy about a great empire belonging to them they can actually get off their @$$ and create one for themselves rather then just claiming.

[LoveIsAllAround]

Again with you word play. Thong is Khmer word also your stupid.

Mon > Siamese > Khmer, this is the route of the word Thong. LOL

Don't tell me Khmer wanna be Mon.

[LoveIsAllAround]

Maybe more lol its hard to remove 200 years of brainwashing. That and their fake history is all they have left. But then again perhaps if they can let go of their fantasy about a great empire belonging to them they can actually get off their @$$ and create one for themselves rather then just claiming.

Im looking on the bright side, these Khmer members seem to be smarter than the Laotards in here.

[LoveIsAllAround]

Uhh, again, where is your source? Again making assumptions without evidence.

My source? They are in Portuguese annals and Vickery's work. I think you are the one who posted Vickery's work link here.

[Leeporter]

nice one

It would take this thread a thousand pages for them to realize that they are brainwashed by French made history.

I believe that many Khmer members, after reading a couple of pages in this thread, are already aware that there are something wrong in their history.

Only a few Khmer members here who can't face the truth.

That's why we hear some silly argument such as "Kun" is a Khmer word with no meaning and "Pan Wang" are also Khmer words and also has no meaning! ha ha ha ...

We also heard some silly argument such as "Sien-liou" = Malayu.

Khmer or Malay called Buddhist monks as "Tan" and "Tan" = "City/State" in Khmer.

Srivijaya was in northern Philippines.

Cambodian refugee's DNA are different from Khmers in Cambodia.

and much more.

ha ha ha ... Talking with these Khmer members are becoming more an entertainment for me these days.

This post has been edited by Leeporter: Feb 25 2012, 10:32 PM

[SabaiSabai]

Mon > Siamese > Khmer, this is the route of the word Thong. LOL

Don't tell me Khmer wanna be Mon.

I think this is why they are confused. They think they are Mon!!! They have branded everything Siamese as Khmer! when asked about origins and meaning of any of it they go "Ask the French" lol Why? because the french gave them this identity. They cannot connect any of it themselves because it is a falsely created history.

Like I said, its like a child like mentality branding everything as theirs as if doing so would actually make it theirs. Then when challenged, they put on this victim mentality. I've seen it a thousand times.

They claim many things as Khmer but have absolutely no understanding of its origin or meaning. How can the original people not know the origin of their own inventions?????? Khmer history arrived to Khmers from the French. 99% of Khmers don't even know there is a Chronicles of Cambodia in existence.

[SabaiSabai]

Im looking on the bright side, these Khmer members seem to be smarter than the Laotards in here.

100000% agreed

[Leeporter]

He think Khmers killed all people of NE Thailand and Central Thailand, and moved Khmer to populate in these land, this is the beginning of his 'Homogeneous Khmer Empire' !!! LOL

What funny me most is that when we look at their DNA, they have more Tai blood than any other blood in them.

How could that be????

I think Khmer is a mix of Tai and local tribes (such as Kha) and some Tamil.

Possible?

[SabaiSabai]

What funny me most is that when we look at their DNA, they have more Tai blood than any other blood in them.

How could that be????

I think Khmer is a mix of Tai and local tribes (such as Kha) and some Tamil.

Possible?

Going by the name it is very likely they are from "Kha". I came over a few things about it from Laos history and legends too. There were the "Khom" and then there were the "Kha Khom" Khoms slaves also could be the origin of how the word "Kha" came to be used as a word for slave eg from the fact that it was a ethnic name for a ethnic that was a slave cast.

Gosh, just think... how much Khmers hate Tai people lol now they know they are half Tai... does it mean they hate themselves?!?!??!?! lol I think we need a mass suicide watch! lol

[LoveIsAllAround]

What funny me most is that when we look at their DNA, they have more Tai blood than any other blood in them.

How could that be????

I think Khmer is a mix of Tai and local tribes (such as Kha) and some Tamil.

Possible?

All evidence make me think Austro-Tai and Austonesian are close relatives, Austro-Tai populated in the north (mainland SEA), while Austronesian populated in South (maritime SEA). Austro-asiatics came later to mix with Austro-Tai, and Austronsians.

[Leeporter]

Gosh, just think... how much Khmers hate Tai people lol now they know they are half Tai... does it mean they hate themselves?!?!??!?! lol I think we need a mass suicide watch! lol

I guess many of them last night looked into the mirror to see themselves and started wondering who their father really is.

The other may already started cutting their wrist trying to bleed their Tai blood out.

[LoveIsAllAround]

Going by the name it is very likely they are from "Kha". I came over a few things about it from Laos history and legends too. There were the "Khom" and then there were the "Kha Khom" Khoms slaves also could be the origin of how the word "Kha" came to be used as a word for slave eg from the fact that it was a ethnic name for a ethnic that was a slave cast.

Gosh, just think... how much Khmers hate Tai people lol now they know they are half Tai... does it mean they hate themselves?!?!??!?! lol I think we need a mass suicide watch! lol

If you read the old posts of Lao and Khmer member dispute. Lao members always said the word 'Khmer' came from 'Kha Men', stinky slaves. No Thai member ever thought of that! LOL

[Leeporter]

All evidence make me think Austro-Tai and Austonesian are close relatives, Austro-Tai populated in the north (mainland SEA), while Austronesian populated in South (maritime SEA). Austro-asiatics came later to mix with Austro-Tai, and Austronsians.

Hey what does that word "Kam" in "Kam Tai" mean?

I read somewhere that there are a group of minority of Tai people in Indonesia whose Indonesian govt forced them to have their names starting with the word "Kam"

I don't remember from where I read that.

What does that word "Kam" in "Kam Tai" mean?

[LoveIsAllAround]

I guess many of them last night looked into the mirror to see themselves and started wondering who their father really is.

The other may already started cutting their wrist trying to bleed their Tai blood out.

DNA Tree chart


a picture says it all. lol

[SabaiSabai]

If you read the old posts of Lao and Khmer member dispute. Lao members always said the word 'Khmer' came from 'Kha Men', stinky slaves. No Thai member ever thought of that! LOL

I think "Kha Men" was a term coined in the Ayutthaya period. Could this be the origin of Khmer? why do I have "Deja vu" regarding this subject lol

On another note, There was a paper done/book written on the subject of Tai peoples using the word "Kha" for Austroasiatic tribes.

Heres an interesting legend about them...somehow it fits.. funnily enough

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=pzxVVCw...tic&f=false

[SabaiSabai]

Hey what does that word "Kam" in "Kam Tai" mean?

I read somewhere that there are a group of minority of Tai people in Indonesia whose Indonesian govt forced them to have their names starting with the word "Kam"

I don't remember from where I read that.

What does that word "Kam" in "Kam Tai" mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kam_language

The Kam language, also known as Gam (autonym: lix Gaeml), or in Chinese, Dong or Tung-Chia, is the language of the Dong people. Ethnologue distinguishes two Kam dialects as separate but closely related languages with the codes doc and kmc

[SabaiSabai]

I think I have a new theory on the origin of the word Khmer lol

They claim descent from "Mera" the Naga princes or could actually be priestess (some tribal people who worshipped the Naga) Naga king = their Father, their god (how else can a king drain a vast amout of water? most likely the flood plains dried up naturaly. Thus associated with godly actions)

The People called themselves Mera but the word "Kha" was added to it later. This would then be as Kha+Mera.

"Kha were black people" which actually means Dark people as other tribes that are called "Kha" weren't actually black.

"Kha Lua, Kha Thin, Kha Lawa" are the Lawa ethnic of the austroasiatic group. Tai's labled them as Kha also.

Weird thing is why did the name stick so well with tribes of the south? lol oh wait figured it out. Because they were still slaves even into Ayutthaya period.

heres another one:

the latter half of the word comes form Mae to mean mother also to mean original or origin

Kha Mae = Original slaves lol just messing

This post has been edited by SabaiSabai: Feb 25 2012, 11:26 PM

[PeaceMan]

Haha, yeah Thailand must be looking for this evidence for centuries. But I don't think the Thai scholars will loss their face with stupid findings from these Nazi-Thais. If it was reliable, the Thais must have found this out themselves and brought this information out immediately to propangate the hell out of it.

It's funny. These people reminds me of the Thai actress that said Preah Vihaer belongs to the Thai people. And the Thai beauty queen that was asked:"What do you think of the prostitution in your country?" In which she answered:"Prostitution is forbidden in Thailand there is no prostitution!"

base on what...rumor???

Cambodia Apologizes To Thailand Over Riot

Published: January 31, 2003


Cambodia apologized and offered compensation today for a riot that damaged the Thai Embassy and severely strained relations with its neighbor.

The embassy was partly burned and vandalized by mobs during a riot on Wednesday that also damaged several Thai-owned hotels, restaurants and other businesses, and left one Thai dead and seven injured.

In retaliation, the Thai government closed its borders with Cambodia, downgraded diplomatic relations and suspended economic cooperation with its smaller neighbor.

Cambodia's government apologized and said it would pay compensation ''quickly and unconditionally'' for damage caused to the Thai Embassy and its staff.

The violence was sparked by Cambodian news reports -- which turned out to be based on rumors -- that a Thai television actress had suggested that Cambodia's famed
Angkor temple complex, a national symbol, is on land that should be part of Thailand.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/world/ca...-over-riot.html

[SabaiSabai]

base on what...rumor???

Cambodia Apologizes To Thailand Over Riot

Published: January 31, 2003


Cambodia apologized and offered compensation today for a riot that damaged the Thai Embassy and severely strained relations with its neighbor.

The embassy was partly burned and vandalized by mobs during a riot on Wednesday that also damaged several Thai-owned hotels, restaurants and other businesses, and left one Thai dead and seven injured.

In retaliation, the Thai government closed its borders with Cambodia, downgraded diplomatic relations and suspended economic cooperation with its smaller neighbor.

Cambodia's government apologized and said it would pay compensation ''quickly and unconditionally'' for damage caused to the Thai Embassy and its staff.

The violence was sparked by Cambodian news reports -- which turned out to be based on rumors -- that a Thai television actress had suggested that Cambodia's famed
Angkor temple complex, a national symbol, is on land that should be part of Thailand.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/world/ca...-over-riot.html

They believe anything they are told lol just imagine what would happen if someone historian telling them they once ruled a vast empire that stretched from cambodia to burma! but then there was actually no proof it was theirs lol sound familiar?