the imbecility just never ends Options

[Captain Corea]

For a guy that talks a whole lot of bull$hit you rarely provide any sources that go beyond shallow rhetoric.

Oh that's right its because your always talking $hit.

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2940073

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2939368

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2937286

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2933108

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2930366

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2930252

And those are just a few from this year. Are you seriously that much of a dimwit to not remember the North's missile tests and such? Do you honestly think the North never does training exercises??



Here's a personal "favorite"

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2915027

North shows photos of attack drills

Be sure to check out the picture

This post has been edited by Captain Corea: Aug 18 2011, 10:20 PM

[KraterosHellas]

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2940073

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2939368

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2937286

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2933108

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2930366

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2930252

And those are just a few from this year. Are you seriously that much of a dimwit to not remember the North's missile tests and such? Do you honestly think the North never does training exercises??



Here's a personal "favorite"

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2915027



Be sure to check out the picture

aaaaaaaaaaaall reported by south korean media. how objective...

[Captain Corea]

aaaaaaaaaaaall reported by south korean media. how objective...

Compared to what, the KCNA?

Are you saying that North Korea never holds military drill or test launches missiles? Are you seriously that ignorant, or are you just trolling?

[KraterosHellas]

Compared to what, the KCNA?

Are you saying that North Korea never holds military drill or test launches missiles? Are you seriously that ignorant, or are you just trolling?

stop trying to put words in my mouth. i am not denying that north korea holds drills: it would be insane of them not to given that they are constantly provoked and threatened by the world's most belligerent and dangerous military. but i find it funny that south korea and the US love to dramatize this to hell to manipulate people's opinions. pathetic

[WideAwake]

stop trying to put words in my mouth. i am not denying that north korea holds drills: it would be insane of them not to given that they are constantly provoked and threatened by the world's most belligerent and dangerous military. but i find it funny that south korea and the US love to dramatize this to hell to manipulate people's opinions. pathetic

I love how the CCP loves to doctor its news coverage.

[Captain Corea]

stop trying to put words in my mouth. i am not denying that north korea holds drills: it would be insane of them not to given that they are constantly provoked and threatened by the world's most belligerent and dangerous military. but i find it funny that south korea and the US love to dramatize this to hell to manipulate people's opinions. pathetic

Dramatized compared to what? Have you read or watched North korean news? Are you seriously saying that only one side dramatizes this?

[Megapower]

South Korea should not aggravate North Korea, but instead pursue a policy of reconciliation and peaceful progress on Korean reunification.

This will facilitate peaceful reunification.

This post has been edited by Megapower: Aug 20 2011, 01:25 AM

[KraterosHellas]

Dramatized compared to what? Have you read or watched North korean news? Are you seriously saying that only one side dramatizes this?

it won't be necessary to over-dramatize US military threat. the reality itself achieves the effect i think

[bear11]

North Korea is always angry.

[Megapower]

Yes, America and South Korea should stop military drills, since it unnecessarily creates friction and does not help facilitate peaceful reunification.

[hapkido1996]

Yes, America and South Korea should stop military drills, since it unnecessarily creates friction and does not help facilitate peaceful reunification.

Do you think NK would also stop their military drills? They might, I suppose, with the right incentive. I'm just not sure that they want peaceful reunification in the first place. The NK gov't, that is.

[KraterosHellas]

Do you think NK would also stop their military drills? They might, I suppose, with the right incentive. I'm just not sure that they want peaceful reunification in the first place. The NK gov't, that is.

i firmly believe that NK will stop all forms of military provocation, including its nuclear program the DAY when US leaves south korea. u can count on that

[hapkido1996]

i firmly believe that NK will stop all forms of military provocation, including its nuclear program the DAY when US leaves south korea. u can count on that

I can't claim to know for sure either way, even after living here for 15 years, but it seems to me that Seoul spends a lot of money to keep the USFK here. There's more than one reason, of course, but it seems to me that one of those reasons is that they believe NK would try to reunite by force were the USFK not here.

(I'm not one of those who naively believes everyting in the news, by the way. I know a lot of unseen crap goes on on all sides, and it's almost always in the media's best interest to toe the official line...)

[rvsp]

Campaign seeks to save SK woman from NK prison camp



"She shouldn`t die in North Korea. She should step on the soil of her hometown at least before she dies.”

Four friends of Shin Suk-ja, a South Korean woman being held at an infamous North Korean concentration camp, said this at an event on North Korean human rights Thursday, adding, “We hope she`s still alive.” The event was held at the waiting room of Tongyeong Ferry Terminal in South Gyeongsang Province and promoted a petition drive to rescue Shin and her daughters.

Shin, 69, was born in Tongyeong, South Gyeongsang Province, and graduated from Tongyeong Elementary School and Tongyeong Girls’ Middle School. Fate took her to North Korea, and confirming whether she is dead or alive is deemed incredibly difficult.

Hosted by the Tongyeong branch of the National Unification Advisory Council, the event feature the Rev. Bang Su-yeol, who initiated the drive, and members of Tongyeong Hyundai Church.

"I couldn`t sleep after I learned that Suk-ja, the quiet and smart girl, is now in North Korea. Even if she`s dead, her two daughters should be sent back (to the South),” said Kim Sun-ja, Shin`s close friend in middle school, sobbingly. "

Recalling her friend as a pretty girl with a small mole under her eye and a dimple, Kim apparently could hardly believe her friend was in the North, more specifically in a prison camp.

"Though we cannot clearly remember her, she was definitely a small but smart girl,” said Shin`s other friends from the same elementary and middle schools while touching her face on a poster.

After graduating from middle school, Shin went to Masan Nursing School in 1958, leaving her friends in Tongyeong behind. In the late 1960s, the Korean government sent her to Germany to work as a nurse.

She met Dr. Oh Gil-nam, who was studying economics in Germany, and married him there in 1975. The couple had two daughters.

Her family life began to fall apart when her husband was caught up in a plot involving North Korea in 1985. A North Korean agent who approached him said Pyongyang would offer him a professorship and top-flight medical care to Shin, who was injured in a car accident.

Spurring Oh to go to the North were Yun Isang, a composer from Tongyeong, and Song Du-yul, a South Korean scholar residing in Germany.

Shin objected, saying, "I can`t trust North Korea.” She failed to talk her husband out of going, however, and moved to the North with him.

Isolated from the outside world, they underwent brainwashing for three months after arriving in the Stalinist country. Oh was then assigned to work as a broadcast agent of the "Voice of National Salvation," a malicious propaganda organ geared toward the South.

A year later, the North Korean leadership ordered him to bring South Korean couples studying in Germany. Shin then told her husband, “We have to pay the price for our wrong decision, but you shouldn`t follow an order that victimizes others and just run away. Our daughters shouldn`t become the daughters of hateful accomplices. If you escape this country, please rescue us but if you fail, believe that we`re dead."

Oh eventually escaped from the North but failed to rescue his family. Shin and their daughters were sent to the notorious Yodok prison camp in 1987.

He lived in Germany in secret but contacted composer Yun, who had a close relationship with Pyongyang back then, to ask for help to bring his family out of the North. Yun delivered to Oh letters from his family twice in 1987 and 1988.

In 1999, the composer brought a cassette tape with the voice of Oh`s wife and daughters and six family photos. Yun then said, "Since you betrayed North Korean founder Kim Il Sung, who was generous to you, your family should be held hostage. You should go back to the North again and be loyal to the regime."

Oh turned himself in to the South Korean Embassy in Berlin in 1992 and came to the South. He appealed to relevant organizations about his family`s plight but got few responses.

Nearly forgotten for two decades, Shin`s story received global attention again thanks to So Shin-hyang, the wife of the Rev. Bang. She learned of Shin`s story at a lecture on North Korean prison camps in a prayer service called the Esther Prayer Movement in 2009.

Sage Korea, a group promoting human rights in North Korea, proposed an exhibition titled, “There Is No Love; Exhibition on North Korean Prison Camps” in Tongyeong. The rescue drive began as the exhibition was held in May and June this year by adding the phrase, “Tongyeong`s daughter is there” to the title.

A lecture on Shin co-hosted by Gyeongnam Forum 21 was also held in Changwon, South Gyeongsang Province, on July 26.

A petition drive to rescue Shin and her daughters is spreading in Tongyeong and its neighboring areas in South Gyeongsang Province. Bang said he will push for the drive 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and 365 days a year.

Twenty-six thousand people have signed the petition, including 16,000 in Tongyeong alone, or 11.4 percent of the city`s population of 140,000. Bang also plans to send a petition to U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and the South Korean Unification Ministry to rescue Shin and her children and confirm if they are alive or dead.

"Young (South) Koreans remain silent though they witness a massacre, not to mention human rights violations. I hope all people can join the efforts to rescue Shin and her daughters," said the pastor.

[KraterosHellas]

I can't claim to know for sure either way, even after living here for 15 years, but it seems to me that Seoul spends a lot of money to keep the USFK here. There's more than one reason, of course, but it seems to me that one of those reasons is that they believe NK would try to reunite by force were the USFK not here.

(I'm not one of those who naively believes everyting in the news, by the way. I know a lot of unseen crap goes on on all sides, and it's almost always in the media's best interest to toe the official line...)

therein lies the root of their imbecility.

but i think it's a good thing what u're doing, not believing everything from the media. only a half-wit would do that. if any of those "unseen crap" were to surface into public attention, just imagine the uproar. there would be a democratic revolution

[hapkido1996]

therein lies the root of their imbecility.

but i think it's a good thing what u're doing, not believing everything from the media. only a half-wit would do that. if any of those "unseen crap" were to surface into public attention, just imagine the uproar. there would be a democratic revolution

"Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see." I first heard this over 20 years ago in the US. It's just as true here as there. I have faith in the goodwill of the NK people, but their leaders...not so sure. Same as here in the South, really.

In war, truth is the first casualty. - Aeschylus

[Captain Corea]

i firmly believe that NK will stop all forms of military provocation, including its nuclear program the DAY when US leaves south korea. u can count on that

Perhaps you'd be right... at least for a day.

How'd it work out last time foreign forces left Korea?

[KraterosHellas]

Perhaps you'd be right... at least for a day.

How'd it work out last time foreign forces left Korea?

no. i meant FROM the day US leaves to eternity.

oh so u're in support of continued foreign intervention in korean affairs, i see. i wonder what koreans will make of u now. u just revealed something unpleasant about urself.

[KraterosHellas]

"Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see." I first heard this over 20 years ago in the US. It's just as true here as there. I have faith in the goodwill of the NK people, but their leaders...not so sure. Same as here in the South, really.

In war, truth is the first casualty. - Aeschylus

excellent quote. those attic dramatists constantly sing about virtue, honour, familial loyalty, national loyalty. i think they have great instructional value to asians today.

[Captain Corea]

no. i meant FROM the day US leaves to eternity.

oh so u're in support of continued foreign intervention in korean affairs, i see. i wonder what koreans will make of u now. u just revealed something unpleasant about urself.

Nope. No need to presume my intentions...just ask.

Personally, I look forward to the day that the Kims fall, and the South bring democracy to the people of the North.


And as for continued foreign intervention, I've posted on here MANY times that I want Koreans to decide the destiny of Korea. Those living on this peninsula have the biggest interest in its well being.