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Đảo Ba Bình (Itu Aba Island or Taiping Island), Part of Spratly Islands
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post Jun 14 2009, 12:15 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itu_Aba_Island






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_Islands


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post Jun 14 2009, 12:18 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_Islands

Taiwan (1 reef, 1 island = 2)

Itu Aba Island[32][44] 太平島 Taiping Dao The largest of the Spratly islands. Located about 22 miles (35 km) south-southwest of Philippine-occupied Loiata (Kota) Island and about 6 miles (10 km) west of Vietnam-occupied Sand Cay. Covered with shrubs, coconut and mangroves. 600 soldiers stationed, lighthouse, radio and weather stations, concrete landing jetty and two wells at the SW end. Guano deposits, fringing reef. Hainan fishermen used to visit annually. In 8/93, plans were announced for a 2 km-long airstrip[45] and a fishing port. The now only 1150-meters-long airstrip was completed in January 2008. [46] Pineapple was once cultivated here. Occupied since September 1956, four months after Filipino Tomas Cloma claimed the islands. Part of Tizard Banks. 46
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Đảo Ba Bình

Ban Than Reef[44] 中洲礁 Zhong Zhou Jiao Lies 3 miles (5 km) east of Itu-Aba Island and 3 miles (5 km) west of Vietnamese occupied Sand Cay. Small drying reef. Occupied since 1995. Part of Tizard Banks. 0
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Total 1 island, 1 reef
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post Jun 14 2009, 12:30 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_battle_in_Spratly_1988

Naval battle in Spratly 1988

Due to clash on 14 March 1988 , Vietnam lost 3 vessels that were set on fire and sank ; 3 men died , 11 wounded, 61 missed.The Chinese released 9 prisoners afterwards , 61 other persons still missed and reputedly dead.The Chinese claim of her own casualties: 6 killed and 21 injured in combat.

Vietnam defended successfully sovereingty over Johnson North Reef and Landsdowne Reef.

The Chinese has occupied Johnson South Reef from 16 March 1988 on and still control it nowadays.

Over 1988, Vietnamese navy had sent troops to occupy more 11 reefs.

On 17 Oct, General Secretary Nguyen Van Linh signed the Document 19/NQ-TW about the defence of the reefs on southern continental shelf ( zone DK1).On 5 Jul 1989, the prime minister ratified Instructions Nr. 180 UT about the building the center of economy - science - technology under administration of Ba Ria-Vung Tau province, reaffirmed sovereignty over this area of continental shelf.

Since Jun 1989, Vietnamese navy has begun occupying the following reefs : Vanguard Bank, Prince Consort Bank, Grainger Bank, Prince of Wales Bank, Alexander Bank, and Rifleman Bank.
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post Jun 14 2009, 12:39 PM
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From the flags it looks like Viets have the most flags.
So why are you complanning?
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post Jun 14 2009, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (TruthDoesntHurt @ Jun 14 2009, 10:39 AM) *
From the flags it looks like Viets have the most flags.
So why are you complanning?



I am not complaining. I am learning.
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post Jun 14 2009, 12:47 PM
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in fact looking at the number of flags it seems Vietnam is the winner.
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post Jun 14 2009, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (TruthDoesntHurt @ Jun 14 2009, 10:47 AM) *
in fact looking at the number of flags it seems Vietnam is the winner.


so???
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post Jun 14 2009, 04:50 PM
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How do u win by losing territory
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post Jun 14 2009, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE (SoCal @ Jun 14 2009, 12:43 PM) *
I am not complaining. I am learning.


Since you're at learning, you might want to check this out bro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qTkQSbYmJU...re=channel_page
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post Jun 15 2009, 12:47 AM
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no , vn is still losing until we cover all those islands by our flags

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post Jun 15 2009, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE (TruthDoesntHurt @ Jun 14 2009, 10:47 AM) *
in fact looking at the number of flags it seems Vietnam is the winner.

In fact looking at the number of flags it seems Vietnam is the winner, defensive and offensive positioning strategically .
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post Jun 15 2009, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE (LaniKai @ Jun 15 2009, 04:11 AM) *
In fact looking at the number of flags it seems Vietnam is the winner, defensive and offensive positioning strategically .



Look at one Chinese flag among several Vietnamese flags on the bottom left. This is not acceptable.

It's like you have almost straight A's with one failing class.


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post Jun 15 2009, 09:32 AM
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The Philippines' main priority back then was to occupy the largest islands before the smaller ones. Of the top 15 largest, Phils. have 7 (3 of which are in the top 5) with a total area of 83.89 hectares of land.

Vietnam has 6 of the top 15 with a total area of only 46.90 hectares of land.

The map above does not show all the features occupied by the countries. It seemed like Vietnam has the most flags. But this is reality:


Philippines 43
Vietnam 26
China 10
Malaysia 7
Taiwan 2
Brunei 0


source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_islands
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post Jun 15 2009, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE (dreiiftw2 @ Jun 15 2009, 07:32 AM) *
The Philippines' main priority back then was to occupy the largest islands before the smaller ones. Of the top 15 largest, Phils. have 7 (3 of which are in the top 5) with a total area of 83.89 hectares of land.

Vietnam has 6 of the top 15 with a total area of only 46.90 hectares of land.

The map above does not show all the features occupied by the countries. It seemed like Vietnam has the most flags. But this is reality:


Philippines 43
Vietnam 26
China 10
Malaysia 7
Taiwan 2
Brunei 0


source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_islands



please show a map for better description


how did you come up with 46 for Philippines?

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post Jun 15 2009, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE (dreiiftw2 @ Jun 15 2009, 09:32 AM) *
The Philippines' main priority back then was to occupy the largest islands before the smaller ones. Of the top 15 largest, Phils. have 7 (3 of which are in the top 5) with a total area of 83.89 hectares of land.

Vietnam has 6 of the top 15 with a total area of only 46.90 hectares of land.

The map above does not show all the features occupied by the countries. It seemed like Vietnam has the most flags. But this is reality:


Philippines 43
Vietnam 26
China 10
Malaysia 7
Taiwan 2
Brunei 0


source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_islands

I don't think Spratly's belongs to the Philippines,Spratly's should be shared by ASEAN countries that are near it.
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post Jun 15 2009, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE (SoCal @ Jun 15 2009, 09:38 AM) *
please show a map for better description


how did you come up with 46 for Philippines?


Read carefully SoCal. Not 46, but 43!!!

Go to this site and count all the names of islands, reefs, shoals, etc that are listed under the Philippines. There was no damn map cuz if there was one, I could have posted it already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_islands

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post Jun 15 2009, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE (dreiiftw2 @ Jun 15 2009, 07:53 AM) *
Read carefully SoCal. Not 46, but 43!!!

Go to this site and count all the names of islands, reefs, shoals, etc that are listed under the Philippines. There was no damn map cuz if there was one, I could have posted it already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_islands



show me the map

if you cannot find one, make one for me and show it to me

do you hear?
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post Jun 15 2009, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (SoCal @ Jun 15 2009, 06:39 AM) *
Look at one Chinese flag among several Vietnamese flags on the bottom left. This is not acceptable.

It's like you have almost straight A's with one failing class.



How about ...
-A river of southeast Asia flowing about 4,183 km (2,600 mi) from southeast China to the South China Sea through a vast delta in southern Vietnam
-Mekong River Basin Development
-Do a search for Nam Con Son Basin
Bac , Trung , Nam
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post Jun 15 2009, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE (Suzuka00 @ Jun 15 2009, 09:40 AM) *
I don't think Spratly's belongs to the Philippines,Spratly's should be shared by ASEAN countries that are near it.


How could you say it's not the Philippines when our claim is only partial? Tell that to Vietnam claiming the whole Spratlys! Damn Chinese and Taiwanese claiming the whole of it as well. Malaysia is claiming Spratlys because of Sabah's proximity, but Sabah is a Philippine territory. You better leave alone the lands in Indonesia that you say are more worth claiming than Sabah. Why don't you focus more on what is near us before you go the distant lands.

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post Jun 15 2009, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE (dreiiftw2 @ Jun 15 2009, 10:10 AM) *
How could you say it's not the Philippines when our claim is only partial? Tell that to Vietnam claiming the whole Spratlys! Damn Chinese and Taiwanese claiming the whole of it as well. Malaysia is claiming Spratlys because of Sabah's proximity, but Sabah is a Philippine territory. You better leave alone the lands in Indonesia that you say are more worth claiming than Sabah. Why don't you focus more on what is near us before you go the distant lands.

I am just suggesting to claim North Sulawesi to complete the unification of "Philippines" or Maharlika because they speak philippine languages as well the same can be said to Orchid Island.


A part of it? the map says the philippines claims almost whole spratly's


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