Japan to consider fighting for allies under attack Options

[Red Fox Ace]

Japan To Consider Fighting For Allies Under Attack

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Japan_To_C...Attack_999.html



Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is leaning toward allowing Japan to exercise the right to collective self-defence in four cases - an attack against an ally, such as the US; when a warship sailing along with a Japanese vessel comes under attack; when a military unit in a multinational forces are attacked; in some situations when Japan is working as part of a UN peacekeeping operation.


by Staff Writers
Tokyo (AFP) April 10, 2007
Japan will consider allowing its military to shoot down a ballistic missile fired at the United States, a report said Saturday, as an exemption from its pacifist constitution. The constitution, imposed by the United States after its defeat of Japan in World War II, bans the use of force in settling international disputes.

While maintaining that Japan has the right to strict self-defence, successive governments have ruled out as unconstitutional so-called "collective self-defence" in which the country fight for allies under attack.

But Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is leaning toward allowing Japan to exercise the right to collective self-defence in four cases, Kyodo News reported citing a government source.

These include the use of Japan's missile defence system against a ballistic missile attack on an allied country, such as the US, Kyodo said.

Abe's government, reputed for its drive to make Japan a more "assertive" nation proud of its history, is due to set up a panel of experts later this month to define exceptional cases in which Japan can fight for an ally under attack.

The other exceptional cases to be considered would be a counterattack when a warship sailing along with a Japanese vessel comes under attack, or when a military unit in a multinational forces are attacked, and in some situations when Japan is working as part of a UN peacekeeping operation.

[kaizen]

Japan To Consider Fighting For Allies Under Attack

scratch out both korea and china.

[frozen_korean]

korea is a a very close ally of USA

[IolaniHahkSeng]

Basically sh_tzo abe trying to kowtow towards white amerikkka.

Doesn't Japan's gov ever learn that white politicians and amerikkkans in general still view Japanese people as slope heads and at the same level with Chinese and Koreans?

[kaiwen]

doesn't suprise me , japan is our biatch.

all they can do is make themselves useful in our favor

[baal]

doesn't suprise me , japan is our biatch.

all they can do is make themselves useful in our favor

http://www.strategypage.com/military_photo...0722122823.aspx

[no one]

scratch out both korea and china.

Since when china is an ally of Korea?

[Henry123]

Since when china is an ally of Korea?

Maybe North Korea?

[HastaLaVista]

The Japanese just love to side with the wrong great power. First time it was Germany and now it's the US.

Don't they ever learn?

[kaizen]

Since when china is an ally of Korea?

when the hell did i say china is an ally of korea?

[BlueAway]

Korea and Japan are allies of the US which instantly makes them enemies of China

[kaizen]

no $hit

[baal]

Korea and Japan are allies of the US which instantly makes them enemies of China

Canada is an American ally. Is it an enemy of China? Yeah, I know, I should just STFU.

[kaizen]

That makes more than half of world's globe is china's enemy. lol good luck with that.

[HastaLaVista]

If the two world wars of the past century have taught us anything about diplomacy, it is that alliances are based on temporal needs, and can change easily.

[ktchong]

This is not going to make any difference for China, because China knows Japan will certainly fight on the side of the US if China and the US ever go to war. China is not going to initiate an unprovoked attack on the US.

This will only drag Japan into fighting in the Middle East against Arabs and Muslims for the interest of America's Crusade against Islam. Because that's the only way America will come "under attack" in the foreseeable future.

Americans fight Muslims because they have interconnected political, economic, and monetary reasons, and the century-old unresolved religious enmity. If Japan wants to fight Arabs and Muslim for who-knows-what reasons, then by all means, go ahead. Go be a puppet and bullet shield for Americans, and invite unnecessary troubles back into your home.

War is expensive, so you better be damned sure that you get something out of it. Does Japan get anything out of helping America killing Muslims? Who knows.

This post has been edited by ktchong: Apr 15 2007, 09:56 PM

[karupt]

Do you honestly think the Koreans would be willing to fight alongside the Japanese in any kind of war?

I doubt it...

[SkyLegenD]

China hates Japan
Japan hates China

Japan hates Korea
Korea hates Japan (a lot)

China looks down at Korea
Korea looks down at China

These three just don't get along.

[Ecthelion]

Honestly, as much as a love a good clean war, this East Asian Pacific War MUST never come to pass.

It will set East Asia back more than a century. The only ones who would benefit would be the Americans.

We must not make the same mistake the Europeans made, we must not.

[snowwolflake]

Do you honestly think the Koreans would be willing to fight alongside the Japanese in any kind of war?

I doubt it...

The One Possible Scenario:

Kim Jong Crackpot launches a sudden invasion of the South in 2011, taking advantage of the withdrawal of US forces in Korea to hit the unprepared ROK, the Americans scramble to provide air and naval support-

The elite ROK 707th Commando Squadron neutralizes the North's Nuclear Arsenal by eliminating the guards with the help of some Southern sympathizers and securing the storage facility, along with 6-12 nuclear fission bombs.

After a brutal struggle with savage losses on both sides the Commies are pushed back to the Yalu River near Manchuria by South Korean forces alone-

And Then What?

Suppose our good friends the PLA launched a 'police action' to keep Dear Lil' Kim in power as they did in 1950 to keep Ol' Kim at the top of the food chain while he starved thousands of his own people in his failed state.

There was a saying that went Communist China and North Korea were "As Close as Lips and Teeth'.

However, today nobody knows just how true that statement is as of 2007.

The top echelons of the PRC speak of 'China's Peaceful Rise' and being a 'Responsible Stakeholder' and they're probably sincere about it which is good because they're rational and you can deal with rational people for mutual benefit.

And then there are the fu-kers in the PLA, specifically a band of generals who are itching for a showdown with the USA right now, one of them, a wanker named Xiong Guangkai, threatened to nuke LA in 1996-suicidal in the event of a real nuclear exchange considering its not Somalia you're threatening

The most worrying thing of all is the lack of communication between the PLA and the Leadership, reflected in the recent ASAT test by the PRC. There was a TWO WEEK delay in announcing the ASAT test, the poor guys at the PRC Foreign Ministry didn't know what everyone was so annoyed and worried about because they had not been told anything and they were'nt for two weeks so they just repeated the stuff about China's peaceful rise and not being the first to start an arms race-counterproductive in the extreme and it just makes China look bad.

Back on track, some rogue PLA general or maybe a lot of generals might decide they don't need the CCP anymore and do their own thing-or 'persuade' the leadership that 'a little' action needs to be taken.

If the PLA pushed across the Yalu, I don't think even a unified Korea could withstand them-even with nukes.

If I was Korean, I'd be screaming for help from anyone, US Forces please come back right now-you can stay forever, demanding the arrival of UN forces, asking the ROC whether they can spare a few in return for diplomatic support-all of a sudden any Japanese help looks attractive so long as they don't try to colonize the peninsula again.

Thats the only scenario where I can figure Koreans would fight alongside and be grateful for Japanese help.