Overseas chinese need to participate in national politics Options

[reutty]

in America, most white people who are xenophobic think that Chinese americans are overrepresented in universities, government, the medical and technology sectors, yet the real fact is that most chinese americans don't participate in government or voting at all.

http://committee100.typepad.com/committee_...general-pu.html

Chinese americans also tend not to ghettoize, they assimilate rapidly into surrounding white population. Look at other populations who don't assimilate. the Bukharan jews from central asia moved to America, they became rich, marry only other bukharan jews, have large families with like over 5 children, and build mansion like homes in ethnic neighborhoods, living together in one community. They built large mansions to house multi generational families, unlike Ashkenazi Jews who are americanized. Wealthy bukharan jews donate money to the community to fund language schools and build musems. They speak their own language, Bukhari, in addition to hebrew at religious school.

Chinese americans buy crappy two bedroom houses like typical white americans, with typically a nuclear family, they don't stay close knit or live in the same neighborhood, they have 0 or 1 children, no respect for elderly family member, and lastly they aren't even rich, they don't become succesfuly, they stay in $hitty middle class jobs. And they don't vote at all, if all the white people voted anti Chinese candidates into office, and I bet even if a xenophobic politician was running for office on the campgain promise that he would exterminate the entire chinese community, zero chinese will appear at the ballot box to vote against him.

They don't go into trade jobs like becoming artisans, because for some reason its looked down upon.

if a national plebicite was held in America, voting on whether to genocide the entire chinese community, i bet no Chinese american would appear to vote against it either.

this stupid phobia of voting should be the first thing to go.

[Mid-Night_Sun]

i would agree Chinese communities dont really involve themselves with the larger community. we know very well whats going on in our own areas and with our own developments though.

voting is important....lol i dont vote. but thats because im content. or lazy. one of the two. i think you are exaggerating. i promise if a politician comes along calling for the genocide of Chinese i will vote :/

[thesecond]

To OP
but u r not chinese.

[AsiaticGlory]

agreed

Us overseas Asians should build our own communities. The San Francisco Bay Area, Hawaii, and Vancouver are the most logical choices. We should create a new overseas Asian identity. Problem is that a lot of Asian Americans are greedy people who focus more on being rich and buying fancy cars/mansions. They have no sense of tribal loyalty.

We just need to prevent Mexicans from taking San Francisco. In other words, us Asian Americans should support the deportation of illegal Mexican immigrants.

But remember that the infighting amongst Asians don't mean much in the overseas.
Overseas Asians like myself really don't care about Spratly Islands, Taiwan independence, Dokdo, Goguryeo, etc. We are too busy preventing ourselves from being bred into extinction like what happened to the Huns, Seljuks, and Tatars.

[Chicom]

I am only few Chinese political science major out of 360 in my university.



3/4 of Chinese Americans are brainwashed by Hollywood Jewi$h.

[Tenjikuronin]

We just need to prevent Mexicans from taking San Francisco. In other words, us Asian Americans should support the deportation of illegal Mexican immigrants.

LOL.


Good luck with that.....

This post has been edited by Tenjikuronin: Oct 15 2011, 12:48 AM

[Yerroperil]

I thought overseas Chinese provided aid to Sun zhong san,I guess staying in Chinatown will overseas Chinese retain their identity,however I live in a predominantly White neighborhood and I'm not whitewashed...

[Hugham]

So there's no Chinese American organization to serve Chinese American needs?

Like Chinese American social organization to help Chinese American poor people?

Chinese American banks to give loan for Chinese American start-up?

Chinese American culture and education organization to preserve traditional Chinese culture and religion among Chinese American community?

etc.


So all the rich and high-salary Chinese Americans just work and life for themself without ever caring other Chinese?


Chinese civilization is based on advanced and complex organization structure.

That what makes us different from the barbarian people at our border.

We know exactly the benefit and power of organization.


I always hear about how strong and big Overseas Chinese community and even helping to overthrown Qing dynasty.

But reality seems different.

[reutty]

To OP
but u r not chinese.

I am not chinese? How come I know words like in wu dialect that cannot be found in online dictionary? is xiaotang/haudang foundi n online dictionary? did I found "ve si" in online dictionary?

[qwerty2010]

Sadly, I don't think the overseas Chinese community is as close-knit and socially/politically motivated as before. Cities like SF with a huge Chinese community used to be quite politically active. The problem with the Chinese is that they are more nuclear-family oriented, and at most a few families socialize together. There's no "village" mentality, unlike other Overseas Asians.

This post has been edited by qwerty2010: Oct 15 2011, 12:19 PM

[reutty]

agreed

Us overseas Asians should build our own communities. The San Francisco Bay Area, Hawaii, and Vancouver are the most logical choices. We should create a new overseas Asian identity. Problem is that a lot of Asian Americans are greedy people who focus more on being rich and buying fancy cars/mansions. They have no sense of tribal loyalty.

We just need to prevent Mexicans from taking San Francisco. In other words, us Asian Americans should support the deportation of illegal Mexican immigrants.

But remember that the infighting amongst Asians don't mean much in the overseas.
Overseas Asians like myself really don't care about Spratly Islands, Taiwan independence, Dokdo, Goguryeo, etc. We are too busy preventing ourselves from being bred into extinction like what happened to the Huns, Seljuks, and Tatars.

they buy mansions for the wrong reasons.

Bukharan jews deliberately buy big mansions to house big families, not for showing off money, they said so when ashkenazi jews were criticizing them for ruining neigbrohoods by building big houses.

they house all their grandparents, uncles, and each couple only marries other bukharans and have like 5 kids.

They don't even marry other ashkenazi jews that much, alot of middle eastern/central asian jews don't mix unlike ashkenazi. they live in communities with their own people on purpose, forming ghettos, and they get very rich through hard work, and share the money with the community. There is a rich bukharan jew who funds language classes for bukharan and built a museum and even a school.

asians buy mansions to show off how rich they are, and its only a nuclear fammily living inside them

we should not deport any mexican immigrants, san francisco is an earthquake area, $hitty real estate. asian people should buy massive amounts of rural farmland. and land in cities like philedelphia, new york city, st louis, moblie and place down south too.

This post has been edited by reutty: Oct 15 2011, 12:25 PM

[thesecond]

I am not chinese? How come I know words like in wu dialect that cannot be found in online dictionary? is xiaotang/haudang foundi n online dictionary? did I found "ve si" in online dictionary?

There r a lot of online translate and u even do not know how to say I. Simple as hell.
And u also do not know how to say "no" and "to know" without I pointed out your mistake.

shut up please.

[Mid-Night_Sun]

Sadly, I don't think the overseas Chinese community is as close-knit and socially/politically motivated as before. Cities like SF with a huge Chinese community used to be quite politically active. The problem with the Chinese is that they are more nuclear-family oriented, and at most a few families socialize together. There's no "village" mentality, unlike other Overseas Asians.

politics aside, id have to disagree.

for the simple fact, no other Asians can make a community like Chinese can. Chinese are the only ones ive seen that has the malls, the super markets and the banks along with the professional services (Chinese doctors/dentists/etc).

Chinese is about the only one you can get away with not learning English here because there is a Chinese equivalent for everything. literally.

its other Asians that rent out units in the Chinese malls. its other Asians that attend Asian social events sponsored by Chinese companies. For example, Toronto's Night Market, which features many Asian acts. the 'Asian' malls here are really Chinese (like pacific mall). the 'Asian' stuff like bubble tea shops and karaoke places, are run by Chinese.

This post has been edited by Mid-Night_Sun: Oct 15 2011, 10:02 PM

[InitialDJay]

you're right, i don't really vote. although, i know EXACTLY what the current politics. i just don't. i don't know. i guess just lazy. i got a juror duty that i must go and i'm trying to find an excuse to get disqualified. what should i say? i broke my leg last month?

[reutty]

There r a lot of online translate and u even do not know how to say I. Simple as hell.
And u also do not know how to say "no" and "to know" without I pointed out your mistake.

shut up please.

Where is the alleged online translator?

O in NGO is pronounced like o in the word Bo in pinyin, not like o in English word no. I don't use same romanization as whatever is use in shanghai today. Wu today is not like wu 80 years ago, and I missed the de in xiaude just like I mispelled many English word, Im using a touchscreen laptop. Mo and ve are used as negatives for wu like bu in mandarin, go ask any 80 year old person in north Zhejiang.

[reutty]

Chinese need to stop admiring (Ashkenazi (European) Jews, and copy middle eastern mizrahi Jews instead. All I hear from Chinese is bull$hit on how Ashkenazi Jews are successful and good with money. Those Ashkenazi Jews mix with non Jew white Americans at such a high rate that they will all be outbred, except for hasidic Jews, they live in nuclear families like white American, they copy western American habits, and if you've heard of the term "Jewish American princess", some rich Ashkenazi girls fit that stereotype -b!tchy and acting like she owns everything.

Bukharan and Syrian Jews are extremely successful, they never marry outside their community, the live in ghettos together with large mansions to house their families, they help each other with money, keep their language and culture, they become rich, but not materialist like westerner, they trust each other and use each others businesses.

And other middle eastern Jews like iraqi jew take up some of the low class jobs in the Syrian Jew ghettos, like owning a grocery, which Syrian Jews don't want to work in, they function as the workers like an informal caste system.

[minh77]

in America, most white people who are xenophobic think that Chinese americans are overrepresented in universities, government, the medical and technology sectors, yet the real fact is that most chinese americans don't participate in government or voting at all.

http://committee100.typepad.com/committee_...general-pu.html

Chinese americans also tend not to ghettoize, they assimilate rapidly into surrounding white population. Look at other populations who don't assimilate. the Bukharan jews from central asia moved to America, they became rich, marry only other bukharan jews, have large families with like over 5 children, and build mansion like homes in ethnic neighborhoods, living together in one community. They built large mansions to house multi generational families, unlike Ashkenazi Jews who are americanized. Wealthy bukharan jews donate money to the community to fund language schools and build musems. They speak their own language, Bukhari, in addition to hebrew at religious school.

Chinese americans buy crappy two bedroom houses like typical white americans, with typically a nuclear family, they don't stay close knit or live in the same neighborhood, they have 0 or 1 children, no respect for elderly family member, and lastly they aren't even rich, they don't become succesfuly, they stay in $hitty middle class jobs. And they don't vote at all, if all the white people voted anti Chinese candidates into office, and I bet even if a xenophobic politician was running for office on the campgain promise that he would exterminate the entire chinese community, zero chinese will appear at the ballot box to vote against him.

They don't go into trade jobs like becoming artisans, because for some reason its looked down upon.

if a national plebicite was held in America, voting on whether to genocide the entire chinese community, i bet no Chinese american would appear to vote against it either.

this stupid phobia of voting should be the first thing to go.

I think majority chinese that represented by cantonese made not much achievement in us, they just came and settle up some gettho and running some chinese restourant...chinese will gain more if they were represented by hokkien,teochew or even wenzhounese that more bussines minded and clanish...

[Mid-Night_Sun]

I think majority chinese that represented by cantonese made not much achievement in us, they just came and settle up some gettho and running some chinese restourant...chinese will gain more if they were represented by hokkien,teochew or even wenzhounese that more bussines minded and clanish...

whos 'us'? you are Chinese?

you are confusing the old chinatowns by the toisan with the hkers who establish presence in vancouver, richmond BC, richmond ONT and markham.


example:

"The Hong Kong immigrants were really a new kind of Canadian," said Henry Yu, a history professor at the University of British Columbia. "They were educated, spoke English and middle class or wealthy. They weren't going to start out as pizza delivery men and working in Chinese laundries.

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/story.h...6ce&k=44011

[minh77]

whos 'us'? you are Chinese?

you are confusing the old chinatowns by the toisan with the hkers who establish presence in vancouver, richmond BC, richmond ONT and markham.


example:

"The Hong Kong immigrants were really a new kind of Canadian," said Henry Yu, a history professor at the University of British Columbia. "They were educated, spoke English and middle class or wealthy. They weren't going to start out as pizza delivery men and working in Chinese laundries.

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/story.h...6ce&k=44011

I mean usa, I am chinese..

Hongkong is another things, hkng can reach till this stage by the help og british, and also there a lot of teochew ppl running the bussines, example like li ka shing... Looks in southeastasia...teochew and hokkien control almost the entire economy of the region...??????????...so far they can achieve is just being middle working class..can't even compete with jewish...just to be honest

[Mid-Night_Sun]

I mean usa, I am chinese..

Hongkong is another things, hkng can reach till this stage by the help og british, and also there a lot of teochew ppl running the bussines, example like li ka shing... Looks in southeastasia...teochew and hokkien control almost the entire economy of the region...??????????...so far they can achieve is just being middle working class..can't even compete with jewish...just to be honest

li ka shing is an HKer. even my grandparents are canto, hakka and toisan but its all irrelevant if you are from HK.

jews are most commonly cited as the most successful group. they hold many key positions, but im not seeing much as a community. i havent seen a jewish mall yet. i havent seen a jewish super grocery market yet. i havent seen a real estate project geared towards jews yet. i havent heard of an area where you can just speak israeli (or w/e it is they speak) and get through life.

for me, my malls are chinese, my grocery super markets (not little mini marts) are chinese, my doctors are chinese, my dentists are chinese, my bankers are chinese. hell, i just got surgery to remove my wisdom teeth by a guy who has the SAME last name as me.

scotiabank's (a non chinese bank) branch in scarborough is staffed by chinese. i shook hands and have the cards of both the branch manager and the senior personal banking officer, both chinese.

i find jews overrated.

This post has been edited by Mid-Night_Sun: Oct 15 2011, 11:45 PM