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‘BlackFace’ In Spain
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post May 25 2009, 10:32 PM
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fuking morons ...somebody needs to beat the sh-it outta them racist scumbags
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post Jun 10 2009, 05:11 PM
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The Spaniards are probably angry because the Americans keep lumping all Spanish speaking peoples together as "Hispanic" which confuses some people and now they think that word is synonymous with "Spanish people". Now the whole world because of the Americans think Spaniards are brown skin people that eats tacos
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post Jun 12 2009, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE (Jc2 @ Jun 10 2009, 05:11 PM) *
The Spaniards are probably angry because the Americans keep lumping all Spanish speaking peoples together as "Hispanic" which confuses some people and now they think that word is synonymous with "Spanish people". Now the whole world because of the Americans think Spaniards are brown skin people that eats tacos


Actually the word "Hispanic" comes from the ancient Romans who used that word (or its root) to denote the Iberian people and region.

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Main Entry:
His·pan·ic Listen to the pronunciation of Hispanic
Pronunciation:
\hi-ˈspa-nik\
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Latin hispanicus, from Hispania Iberian Peninsula, Spain
Date:
1584

1: of or relating to the people, speech, or culture of Spain or of Spain and Portugal2: of, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent living in the United States ; especially : one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin
— Hispanic noun
— His·pan·i·cism Listen to the pronunciation of Hispanicism \-ˈspa-nə-ˌsi-zəm\ noun
— His·pan·i·cist Listen to the pronunciation of Hispanicist \-sist\ noun
— His·pan·i·cize Listen to the pronunciation of Hispanicize \-ˌsīz\ transitive verb


The Spanish in Spain are the ones who encouraged the Latin Americans to adopt the identity of "Hispanic." Arguing that they share a common cultural root to Spain and not to the British (this was after Spain lost her colonies to revolutions in Latin America and wanted Latin Americans to rebuff Anglo-American and British commercial and political influence in Latin America).

Some Southern Spaniards can get pretty dark actually. Some look like "typical" Latin Americans in skin complexion. It should not be forgotten that Southern Spain is not wholly European in culture. It was controlled roughly for 800 years by a swarthy and sometimes black people from North Africa known as the Moors.

Spain actually treats undocumented black African immigrants risking life and death to enter its country, arguably better then the U.S. treats Mexicans and especially Haitians doing the same. The U.S. has a long history of creating greater obstacles for immigrants of darker hues to enter this country then lighter hued immigrants. The early white Cubans were treated vastly different then the boat and raft loads of dirt poor black Haitians arriving in Florida.




Black Africans in Senegal attempting "illegally" to enter Spanish territories. A documentary. Journeyman Pictures: Out of Africa

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The 1,400 km voyage from Senegal to the Canary Islands is now the favoured way for illegal immigrants to enter Europe. But as many as 40% never make it.

Every day, an armada of tiny flotillas brave the 11 day journey from West Africa to the Canaries. "So far today, we've had 293 arrivals. Several needed medical attention for serious wounds", states Oswaldo Lemus from the Red Cross. Under Spanish law, these men can only be detained for 40 days. If their nationality cannot be established in that period, they are released into the local community. But authorities here are being stretched to breaking point and calls are growing for the immigration laws to be reviewed. "The Canary Islands are very small. It's not easy to absorb thousands of migrants", states Harbour Master Salvador Mendez. "People are really worried about the future. We don't know when it will stop". In Senegal, the dangers of the voyage don't appear to be putting people off. Everyone knows someone who did not make the crossing. "Here, young people have no future", complains Alkally Sarr. He's already survived the journey once, only to be deported. But he's vowed to; "try again. For as long as I live".

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post Jun 12 2009, 11:02 AM
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Dont know much about their history, but they tend to looks abit different from typical west europeans, they somehow looks a bit like Jew or middle-easter or something.

And based on my limited experience with less than a dozen spanish in Europe, I tend to think this is a group of very out-going people, they tend to very straightforward, and when they want to help somebody, they tend to be very helpful, unlike most of other people in the world (for instance, British tend to hide all their feelings in their mind, and may love to say the holiday words in front of others while may think completely the opposite in their mind, no bias against the british, such behaviors actually remind me of some of my Chinese frens).

I guess this very out-going characters is a double-edge sword, when some spanish happen to be haters, they may also tend to be very open about that, but that doesnt mean they are more of a hater than those guys who know how to hide their true feelings better.
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post Jun 12 2009, 11:22 AM
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Spain is a very racist country.

But it is also a very insignificant and weak country.
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post Jun 12 2009, 01:13 PM
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don't forget that Spanish folks have a complex about their moorish past... the women in their society up to the present day obsess over blond looks and blue eyes.. even though half the country look positively like their moorish counterparts.

also, historically, many northern europeans condescendingly despise the Spanish by saying that Africa begins at the Pyrenees.. almost as if to say their traits are not as refined as the northerners

there is a kinda racism in Spain against moors (present day northern african migrants) and eastern europeans (romans), so much so that their last government (aznar) instigated a migration policy of over 1 million south american latinos to settle in the country in order to keep the nation latinized, so there is a huge sense of "tribalism" going on there as folks seek to align themselves into different social stratas..

plus it's a nation crazy about football and so they are having to cope with some major social dynamics.. they produce great sportsmen, but they are hugely tribalistic (witness the ancient rivalry between Barca and Real Madrid)

big cities apart, the country is dotted with thousands of villages and most of the villagers are pretty provincial (a.k.a. ignorant bumpkins).. believe it or not!

anyways, much as there are racism in Spain, there are lots of people who have strong solidarity with the underdog and underprivileged...

Spain has one of the highest rates of adoption of babies from other countries... black babies are not common, but eastern european and strangely, chinese babies are very popular with the spanish from all over whether they are Basque or Andalucian..

i think the most racist elements in their society are probably those who hail from the villages perhaps

the bumpkin who hails from the village and is adjusting to big city life has the most reason to act racist.. he or she is still trying to fit in, and the only way he or she knows how is to despise others of another tribe and color...
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post Jun 13 2009, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE (haozhao @ Jun 12 2009, 12:22 PM) *
Spain is a very racist country.


Really? I never would have thought that.
I thought they were very open minded people, o____o.

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post Jun 13 2009, 02:31 PM
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Racist wankers. I hate them.
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post Jun 13 2009, 02:47 PM
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You might be right about all of that, Tangawizi. I can't say I know a whole lot about the Spanish people, especially in contemporary Spain.

I had a professor that was Peruvian - born and raised in Peru - and he would fit the physical description of mestizo. He's visited Spain in the past, and according to him Northern Spain is pretty "white" and the music is much different then Southern Spain. If I remember correctly I think he stated people in Northern Spain have a traditional music that sounds Celtic like. Anyways, I remember he stated that when he traveled to Northern Spain the people were rather rude to him until they discovered he was from Latin America. Apparently Northern Spaniards do not like Southern Spaniards at all. I wonder if the animosity and antagonisms are as strong as those between Italians and Sicilians (or even between Northern Italians and Southern Italians)? SHOCKED.gif Them people can really go at each other! I mean just here in the U.S. the older Sicilian generation and older Italian generation dislike each other like U.S. Civil War between North and South. Well... maybe that's an exaggeration, but I know they can be at each others throats.

I remember one young Sicilian-American women told me that her friend's mother (Italian-American), once threw out of her house, when she was told she was Sicilian. rotflmao.gif

I suspect part of Spanish animosities toward North Africans or North African Moors has something to do with cultural frictions (including religious).

Nonetheless, traditions like the Flamenco dance in Southern Spain, to my understanding was heavily influenced by North African and or Moorish culture.

I had this one short chick in a class of mine semesters ago. I was certain this broad was Latina. But I talked to her one day after class and it turns out the broad is from Spain. Shocked the $hit out of me. I would've sworn that b*tch ate tacos.
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post Jun 13 2009, 10:08 PM
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Yeah, most people are pretty hazy on the difference between Mexicans & the Spanish. Given that at a glance, their culture seems to be quite similar, compounded by the fact that both speak Spanish.
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post Jun 14 2009, 03:37 AM
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My own experience with spanish people:

Spanish mean are girly men, who think they are gift from god. They like to trot along in there bullfighting outfits, put on long metal claws, and mask and do backflips off of metal weaved fences.
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post Jun 14 2009, 07:32 AM
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oooh me hate spanish cuz i jealous of biiiig penis.




fu-king retards. Get a life.
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post Jun 14 2009, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE (Point_Dexter @ Jun 14 2009, 07:37 PM) *
My own experience with spanish people:

Spanish mean are girly men, who think they are gift from god. They like to trot along in there bullfighting outfits, put on long metal claws, and mask and do backflips off of metal weaved fences.


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post Jun 15 2009, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (Arash @ Jun 14 2009, 07:32 AM) *
oooh me hate spanish cuz i jealous of biiiig penis.




fu-king retards. Get a life.


seriously dude....u are fuking gay .....stop talking about d!cks and stay in your redneck country .....
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post Jun 19 2009, 02:18 PM
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I don't get it. What's the problem.

Unless the intended person/ppl take that as derogatory. otherwise, it just like a joke that you don't get it.
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post Jun 19 2009, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (Point_Dexter @ Jun 14 2009, 04:37 AM) *
My own experience with spanish people:

Spanish mean are girly men, who think they are gift from god. They like to trot along in there bullfighting outfits, put on long metal claws, and mask and do backflips off of metal weaved fences.

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post Jun 22 2009, 04:05 AM
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QUOTE (extra hour @ May 24 2009, 05:52 AM) *
I'm born and bred in the U.S. and I would like to think I have no grudge or feeling of superiority over Amerindians in this country (USA), but Amerindians are still used as the mascots of some U.S. sporting teams.





Who the hell in America uses the word Amerindian? We just call them Native Americans or Indians. LOL.

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post Jun 22 2009, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE (thewiseguy @ Jun 22 2009, 05:05 AM) *
Who the hell in America uses the word Amerindian? We just call them Native Americans or Indians. LOL.

...You seriously have never heard that term?
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post Jun 22 2009, 08:20 AM
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They're so backwards both culturally and socially, it's embarrassing. Spaniards could seriously learn a thing from the Scandinavians.
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Yeah many Spainish are racist. But I like Penelope Cruz. icon_wink.gif
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