Fighting for a better malaysia is the way to go Options

[abarai1992]

we can all discuss the tittle whether u agree to it or not. feel free to speak

[swingdoctor]

we can all discuss the tittle whether u agree to it or not. feel free to speak

Well the issue is that people disagree on what a "better" Malaysia is.

[coolooc]

I think most of us Malaysians know the country is rotting to its core for the last few decades. It only takes a Michael Backman to confirm it.

Such a pity this country could have been a 1st world country like Singapore but had to be misgoverned by a bunch of crooks using misguided policies for their own ends.

It looks like the country hasn't reach rock bottom yet and it is going to get a lot worse before it get any better.

Local companies are moving away, rich peoples are moving their money elsewhere and the country's top brains are simply draining away. Our leaders are still happily plundering the country's wealth regardless of everything else.

Our future is bleak, very bleak indeed.

[ruyom]

Malaysia being in such a sad state, I can only see decline for decades to come.

May be even for centuries.

May be the rise of China can give the bright sparks of Malaysia some leverage to change society, but I doubt whether the ingrained culture of failure can be reversed.

Not the UK, not the US, not in most parts of the world, the culture of failure always reproduced itself generation after generation.

Change has to come from external influence and not from the inside.

[yesnofuturecount...]

We can't change it politically, you are wrong. We will.

Once this country is run by terms of equal rights, where each citizen play by the rules and regulations of total fairness, then we shall see where the malays will stand.

Right down at the bottom? Most probably, yes! Not only the non-malays will agree, the whole world would probably agree as well. In fact some malays will agree this as well.

The only thing that all of us can see, whether you are a Malaysian, or non-Malaysian, is that the malays here will never change. Not now, never will.

Your level of intelligence and pathetic sense of judgement depict not only how truthfully and incompetently low life beings you are, crawling at the lowest level of the human hierarchy, begging for alms, practically putting all your grotesque clown-butt ugly faces in front of the world, self admitting that even maggots feasting on a pile of dung, looks and sounds much much better.

You defense on your own race, will not conclude anything, but strengthen the fact that even your pure existence in this very world of civilized human beings, is worse than the thought of having an incest driven rapist over for dinner.

Ponder upon this, there is no point defending for yourselves, save it. The fact and all the truth speak louder than just stupid farts coming out from your infested mouth fueled by your retarded brain.

To be honest, how naive you are with your pointless talk, we can see it in every glory in your statement here. In fact by calling you stupid, would be the most insulting thing by being stupid. Have you ever heard of the word opposition?

Think my friend, if there is no such thing as bravery to challenge the government face to face, why would oppositions be there?

By now, your retarded brain must be struggling, thinking, hey what is the point of oppositions if they are not effective enough to fight against the government? Good question.

One word - CORRUPTION.
The rest of the picture, I will also leave it up to you.

The real cowards in Malaysia are the group of people who survive under bogus unfair rights, fictional promises which only rat testicles will believe they are true.

The same group of people who destroying the country with their own social menaces, incest activities, drugs, materialistic punks with brains the size of a chicken $hit, etc.

The same group of people who are spoilt by unreasonable, pointless, total waste of time support from the government. Which even that, on that very constant support, they are still licking their own balls, nursing their injury, shamelessly.

And still as of yet, presently and logically categorized as the poorest class citizens who only survive by politically sucking other people's hard earned benefits.

The same group of people who idolizes external portrayal of physical goodness, but mentally and reality, are bunch of idiotic hypocrites nothing better than a rotting pair of pig testicles. Even the maggots would think twice of devouring such a distasteful crap.

I am sick and tired of saying this over and over again. I honestly believe, that every single malay individual in this country, within their very heart, and best interests, know where they stand. They know right from the start, that they can't win in a fair and equal environment.

Their fictitious pride and ego made them proud of their weakness, never ever have the guts to admit their weaker side.

And how do you think they survive? By playing dirty. And most of the time, very very dirty. To those malays who are successful, trust me, they are not pure malays. They are even embarrassed by the fact that they are malays.

Think......................

Still think and insist malays are for perpaduan? fair? got integrity and dignity?

The only way to have perpaduan is: you motherf***ker stripe your own babi status and come to term with other races on level playing field - that is what we call a step towards perpaduan!

We are all Malaysians, why not? What is your problem??????????

Now the answer to this I leave it to you to think. How you want to think it with your level of stupidity, I have truly no idea.

[Protoculture]

The only way to have perpaduan is: you motherf***ker stripe your own babi status and come to term with other races on level playing field - that is what we call a step towards perpaduan!

We are all Malaysians, why not? What is your problem??????????

That's where you went off the track. All the term Malay = Babi comes from bigoted forummer like you. We only react when the BABI-ness flying around spouted by your kind. Did you ever see we start the war of words? No, your kind did.

Now, you can shove from your anal tracts up to your little puny brain, & chant the mantra;

"BIGOTED PRICK".

[abarai1992]

hey man, but the reality check for us is, are we going down the drain during these 50 years, the answer is yes and no.

yes is because there is so much racial tensions in malaysia that these pull away the 'lucrativeness' for foreign investment.

no is because we came from a long way from becoming brits land to govern ourselves, yet we are still not doing gd enough, if u consider our small neighbour cough cough...

[malaysiaisnofutu...]

Nobody can help us now.
This government is run by the Umno morons.
They can twist and turn as they like.
They don't give a damn about the other races.
So we all go for help internationally!

[reek]

Ask all malay pig go back to Indonesia.

The malay pig make Malaysia become rubbish country. Without malay pig in Malaysia - Malaysia country will become same as Singapore or Taiwan.

Where malay pig came from? Indonesia? Arab? Africa? What happened to our Orang Asli? They are the original settlers here, they should be the true real bumiputras. Not the babiputras we have here.

What is wrong with the babiputras? Highest crime rates, highest divorce rates, highest number of criminals, highest number of drug users, highest number of rapists.

A genetically flawed race (babiputras) cannot be fixed by politically.

What have we got now?

Brain drain, economic disparity getting wider, poor education system, racial segregation, widespread corruption, inefficiency and uncompetitive on the government departments and others.

Sad. Sad. Sad. The question asked by many of my fellow Chinese is this - Why can't you just tell the malay pig to adopt Chinese culture which is superior?

It makes no difference whether I am a Chinese, Indian or for that matter, anyone else, even a Mat Salleh. I am speaking as a human being to a malay pig like you.

If you malay pig don't like the non-malays here, then go back to Sumatra, Jawa, or wherever your ancestors came from, and give this land back to its rightful master, the Orang Asli.

If Malaysia is to divide into two countries with malay pig taking the east, and the west to the Chinese and the Indians - watch that the malay pig starting to migrate to the west illegally for a better future.

It is no wonder Singapore is a country which is 50 years ahead of Malaysia.

You know something - once outside the perimeters of Malaysia, these malay pig are so small in value even a dog has more value than them!

Everything in Malaysia is a joke when it comes to the malay pig. They are laughed at by everyone in this world for being incompetent, lazy, useless morons.

From research, this peninsular was part of the Siamese empire way before these malay pig from Indonesia invaded it.

Still so thick skin, don't want to go back to Indonesia.

[Elultuple]

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[samheisfl]

Ask all malay pig go back to Indonesia.
Sad. Sad. Sad. The question asked by many of my fellow Chinese is this - Why can't you just tell the malay pig to adopt Chinese culture which is superior?

If Malaysia is to divide into two countries with malay pig taking the east, and the west to the Chinese and the Indians - watch that the malay pig starting to migrate to the west illegally for a better future.

Tthe Malay ruler should put an order shoot on sight for any chinese in Malaya 50 years ago..
so that we won't see any these kind people now.. Sighh!!

[kenmirzz]

Ask all malay pig go back to Indonesia.

The malay pig make Malaysia become rubbish country. Without malay pig in Malaysia - Malaysia country will become same as Singapore or Taiwan...........and the rest of the post.

Mr Reek, you sound very harsh in your tone. Be calm, take a deep breath and don't let hatred clouded your judgment. Peace to all. The only solution for the Malays are in throwing their religion of backwardness behind for a true integration between races. It's not a problem of a particular race being genetically flawed as your racist remark indicated. Racism is not approved by any civilized society, hence, either a racist Chinese or a racist Malay or a racist Indian will be slam dunked by me.

The distrust between these two races, plus Indian as well, must be eliminated from its root. More universities should be built by the government to accommodate students of all races without favoring any particular race. Religion must be kept strictly apart from public life in order for a society to progress in a stable environment. Nearly every advanced and modern nations of this world implemented this policy.

A religious society will pose impending problem to peace. Mentality and attitude of the Malays must open to change, intermarriage between all the races must be encouraged without having to undergo religious switching. Such uncivilized, barbaric and unfair practice must be outlawed. For 1400 years, Islamic society was proven to be a failure with plenty of bloodshed, treacheries and conspiracies among them. Same goes for Christianity with their cruel Inquisition. A perfectly secular and humanistic society can be organized gradually if all the human cooperated in Malaysia.

Tthe Malay ruler should put an order shoot on sight for any chinese in Malaya 50 years ago..
so that we won't see any these kind people now.. Sighh!!

Mr Sam, is it including women and children? You sound like a Nazi, no different from the other racist above.


Humanity is but one family.

[strongbad]

Nobody can help us now.
This government is run by the Umno morons.
They can twist and turn as they like.
They don't give a damn about the other races.
So we all go for help internationally!

The key to all this is to get Singapore back in the federation of malaysia. This might not happen because of racial tensions( the flood of chinese buisnessmen during british colonial) and political differences.

This post has been edited by strongbad: Mar 26 2010, 02:19 PM

[eanpengmas]

The key to all this is to get Singapore back in the federation of malaysia. This might not happen because of racial tensions( the flood of chinese buisnessmen during british colonial) and political differences.

Kenmirzz's reasoning is the key to open the door of equality for all Malaysians but such a simple, civilised notion is blocked by Malay politicians with their own backward and racist agenda it seems. This aspect of Malysian history is long and fraught. It included the British who encouraged racism with their ex- divide and rule policy. They, like the Americans, had made gross errors in their judgement and their policies.

Strongbad's suggestion is the perfect solution but it will not even get a headstart as this is exactly what the backward politicians in UMNO feared.
TO ME, WHILE THERE IS FEAR AND MISTRUCT LURKING IN THE BCAKGROUND - AND MOST SADLY SO, IT SEEMS THAT THE PRESENT CLIMATE IN Malaysia is just that, there can never be a step forward. Yet there must be for it is utterly inhuman to subject Malaysians of Chinese, Indian and Uerasian ethnicities to such abject discrimination in their own country.
- For a start, the Malaysian government will have to change the special rights ruling against its non-Malay citizens.
- The UN and the world will have to reexamine the legality of Malaysia's claim to being a multiracial and multicultural country. ( instead of nultiracial and nulticultural )
- Actions .e.g. sanctions - trade embargo etc must be applied to force changes to redress this ethnic discrimination in a member state of the UN.

The more I read about the helpless situation, the less credulous it seems. That my own country and fellowmen will throw the pearl in the Pacific to the swine.
From this forum alone, we get a taste of the variety of members there are. There is certainly no more room for any racist remarks of any kind. The country's already that low, it can't go further down or it will be in the dark ages.

There seems to be a light in the turmoil of this present discontent. I believe the answer lie in the cooperation between Singapore and Indonesia. And possily with Australia and N ew Zealand. I, and perhaps we, seem not to know very much about Indonesia. But from what I hear about present day in Indonesai, there is a more enlightened concept about ASEAN culture and development.

What says everyone?

This post has been edited by eanpengmas: Mar 31 2010, 02:32 AM

[Protoculture]

Tthe Malay ruler should put an order shoot on sight for any chinese in Malaya 50 years ago..
so that we won't see any these kind people now.. Sighh!!

Nahh, we Malays are far too nice to them. Up to a point, in 1800s, the Cinise immigrants' Ghee Hin & Hai San triads makes war upon each other's settlements on our backyard, we turned a blind eye.

Then, CPM (Communist Party of Malaya) rebelled & committed acts of terrorism for 4 decades, we didn't blamed the MY Chinese for the acts of the CPM, despite the majority of CPM members were from that particular community. We're far too rational for that.

[kenmirzz]

Nahh, we Malays are far too nice to them. Up to a point, in 1800s, the Cinise immigrants' Ghee Hin & Hai San triads makes war upon each other's settlements on our backyard, we turned a blind eye.

Do you think the rest of the world are blind? Your king/sultan themselves received benefits from the Ghee Hin and Hai San and those two gangs prospered under either Sultan/King's patronage or some high ranking Malay leaders in those days. If one party support the former, the other will support the latter. What blind eye blatant lie you were talking about? Even when the colonialist British arrived on your shore, it was your leader( king, sultan) that welcomed and receptive of them, later, they traded their territories with those imperialists.

Then, CPM (Communist Party of Malaya) rebelled & committed acts of terrorism for 4 decades, we didn't blamed the MY Chinese for the acts of the CPM, despite the majority of CPM members were from that particular community. We're far too rational for that.

The CPM did not solely comprise one race, though, the majority of them are one particular race. I think you are educated enough to know other races joined the movement as well and if I recalled correctly, one religious teacher by the name of Shamsia Fakeh committed atrocities had in hand with other CPM members as well. Besides that, Tan Cheng Lock did strive in those days to remind the Chinese not to switch allegiance to CPM and remain faithful to the present Non-CPM leaders.

I caught you lying again, Mr Proto.

The evidence is pointing to the direction that your nation prosper due to the "particular community" who were hardworking and peace-loving people. Yet you hate them and refused to sit and eat together with them. I dont blame you, it's your supremacist religion that survive itself by belittling other people ( calling them Kaafir, Najs) that had brainwashed your mind.

[eanpengmas]

Abarai, what do you mean by "a better Malaysia?"

Well... anyway, you invitation for all to speak freeely was a line for all to air their dirty washing. lol. Yet, on a serious note, it's extremely sad that Malaysians harbour such deep hatred or crack such murderous jokes. There's just no excuse for hatred of that kind, even if poeple are camouflaged under cyber names.

I think the answer to Malaysia's problems today lies deeper than all the present day illusions that the various races - Malaysians and Europeans alike, have built up. Most Malaysians today are happy with the least - that is: -
1. their material well-being - in whatever way they can get it ,morally or immorally
2. a false sense of security - based on racial grouping, political clout, religion
3. a disregard for getting to the root of their existence.

Taken that most of you will agree with me that Malaysians are truly lovely, hospitable and charming people (whatever their racial background) ask yourselves why , when confronted the 1 and 2 above, they will turn monsters overnight? My answer is that they have stopped being their true selves and they have stopped learning. By learning, I mean probing deeply into the unknown or rather, lost history. They all do this because they innocently believe that the superficial barriers our society today have so constructed to make us belong to one faction or the other, have become so deeply entrenched in our consciousness that we separate ourselves from our spiritual beings which, are still submerged in our subconscious.

To cut it short, we human, are mongenesis. We all have the same genes and a human anatomy. Malaysians are just amazingly lucky to have come from the Garden of Eden on the Sunda Shelf before the powerful destructive forces of raw nature tore the region, and eventually, our homogenetical identity, apart. There we were, the peaceful people of Lemuria, the motherland and there was Toba, Krakatoa, Tambora and the ring of fire all over the Pacific. The fact that it is called the Pacific was no coincidence.

The gist of it is, a better Malaysia will be like Lemuria, a paradise of a superconscious mega civilisation. Can we achieve that supremo state or is it all buried under vocanic ash in the Pacific Oceans, South China Sea and Indian Ocean? For a start, let's pay repects to Professor Aryio Santos, one of the Lemurians reincarnated and read his book, based on 20 years of scientifc, paleonanthopological and marine botany research, called "Atlantis, the Lost City Rediscovered."

By the way, I tried to get Professor Santos' book, but they're out of print and not available in any community library in the UK. Would it be poss to request a reprint of this new world bible?

This post has been edited by eanpengmas: May 4 2010, 06:18 AM

[Ralf]

Dunno bout Lemurians and Atlantis...... but while everybody was talking about fighting for peace, or fighting for a better Malaysia..... I was having dinner at a Chinese restaurant with a happy'n'rowdy bunch of Malaysian students, uni lecturers, some Aussie musicians and members of my Indonesian Film Festival team, and a great time was had by all.
Perhaps somewhere in this is the key to a better Malaysia....... and even a better Asia overall.

[eanpengmas]

Dunno bout Lemurians and Atlantis...... but while everybody was talking about fighting for peace, or fighting for a better Malaysia..... I was having dinner at a Chinese restaurant with a happy'n'rowdy bunch of Malaysian students, uni lecturers, some Aussie musicians and members of my Indonesian Film Festival team, and a great time was had by all.
Perhaps somewhere in this is the key to a better Malaysia....... and even a better Asia overall.

Well, that's the idea, isn't it? Freely here and now; but still, one can have interest in other things, like cryptic time machines.
BTW, in some cases while diplomats are dining, their countries might be figthing or trying to negotiate peace. My point is, the more they read, I mean reading widely, the less they'll be inclined to fight.

This post has been edited by eanpengmas: May 5 2010, 11:23 AM

[Ralf]

Some folks are just hell-bent on destruction, no matter how much they read.
Having a broad education helped me to appreciate the world, but I know other people I went to school with 30 years ago, and despite having a science degree and a career that involves travelling to SE Asia, they just don't get it...... still harbouring the same prejudices I remember from their teenage years.