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Spratley Islands, who owns it?
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post Sep 23 2005, 10:03 PM
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heh don't be sad cuz you can't do jack $hit.
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post Sep 24 2005, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE (forrestcat @ Sep 23 2005, 08:37 PM)
Too bad the Philippines are so impoverished to have any capable warships to keep check on the Chinese warships .
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let's welcome the americans again to Clark Air Base & Subic Marine & Navy base in exchange for patroling our waters..
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post Sep 24 2005, 05:33 AM
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with the deadlock thats taking place..no one is making any money off of these oils...we should just combine islands claimed by all SEA country and put it under the command of ASEAN..that way china cant just bully ASEAN into giving them the islands and we can drill that sucker for oil.
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post Sep 24 2005, 11:34 AM
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I think i rather have the United States do policing in South China Sea if SEA nations are overpowered by PRC. Better than trigger happy Chinese warships going around.Not to mention chinese obsolete nuclear subs that might explode anytime if they hang around too long.
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post Sep 24 2005, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (forrestcat @ Sep 24 2005, 10:34 AM)
Not to mention chinese obsolete nuclear subs that  might explode anytime if they hang around too long.
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post Sep 24 2005, 12:34 PM
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Malaysia is actually indirectly threatened by the continual presence of Chinese warships off its coast that we're placing 3 three attack submarines in Sabah to keep a watch on Malaysia's territory. Too bad the Philippines are so impoverished to have any capable warships to keep check on the Chinese warships and Vietnam could not spare any capable warship to the Spratlys coz they are so busy with the Chinese on the north.


When did Malaysia even have a submarine?
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post Sep 24 2005, 12:43 PM
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i heard they bought 3 submarines from China 2 yrs ago ............lol, ....iono
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post Sep 25 2005, 01:24 AM
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let's turn the Badjaos and offshore living tribes into Special Ops Navy Seals and burn those warships....... hehe
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post Sep 25 2005, 07:25 PM
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^no, Let's send our Terrorists & Rebel Groups to the islands(NPA, MILF, Abu Sayyaf, etc) & perform a sucide attack on the enemy..lol
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post Sep 26 2005, 11:41 AM
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I think the RP owns the Spratley Islands.

But it does not really matter what I think. What counts most is the fact that China - a very powerful nation compared to the Philippines - can grab any island she wants. They can even grab the whole Tibet if they want - without dissent. If we speak in theory: what if China grabs Palawan Island - the biggest island that is closer to the South China sea. What can the lame duck Philippine government do? Declare war against China?

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post Sep 26 2005, 05:58 PM
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^the UN & the US(US & RP has a defense treaty)
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post Sep 27 2005, 11:12 AM
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I just don't see that happening. Yes china is strong but we have never had an agressive histroy (at least not that I know of). I think your being maybe just i little paranoid in this. ANd Im pretty sure the philippines doesn't haven't a lameduck government. They just have some internal issues they need to iron out.

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I think the RP owns the Spratley Islands.

But it does not really matter what I think.  What counts most is the fact that China - a very powerful nation compared to the Philippines - can grab any island she wants.  They can even grab the whole Tibet if they want - without dissent.  If we speak in theory: what if China grabs Palawan Island - the biggest island that is closer to the South China sea.  What can the lame duck Philippine government do?  Declare war against China?
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post Sep 27 2005, 11:18 AM
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Amongts ASEAN countries, I'd say it's a toss between the Philippines and Vietnam.
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QUOTE (education @ Sep 27 2005, 11:12 AM)
I just don't see that happening. Yes china is strong but we have never had an agressive histroy (at least not that I know of). I think your being maybe just i little paranoid in this. ANd Im pretty sure the philippines doesn't haven't a lameduck government. They just have some internal issues they need to iron out.

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I think the RP owns the Spratley Islands.

But it does not really matter what I think.  What counts most is the fact that China - a very powerful nation compared to the Philippines - can grab any island she wants.  They can even grab the whole Tibet if they want - without dissent.  If we speak in theory: what if China grabs Palawan Island - the biggest island that is closer to the South China sea.  What can the lame duck Philippine government do?  Declare war against China?
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its already happened...they just took over one of the islands claimed by the PR claiming to protect chinese fishermen then they fortified the island and warned the PR not to fly or get too close or the deffences will open fire on them.....the gov has been complaining about it but no one really cares about the gov's whining..not even our soo called "ALLY" america.
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post Sep 27 2005, 12:25 PM
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Do you have proof of that? I mean is there link you could direct me to I want to see it with my own eyes, because I haven't even heard of this on the news.

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QUOTE (education @ Sep 27 2005, 11:12 AM)
I just don't see that happening. Yes china is strong but we have never had an agressive histroy (at least not that I know of). I think your being maybe just i little paranoid in this. ANd Im pretty sure the philippines doesn't haven't a lameduck government. They just have some internal issues they need to iron out.

QUOTE (JuliusMariaLourdes @ Sep 26 2005, 12:41 PM)
I think the RP owns the Spratley Islands.

But it does not really matter what I think.  What counts most is the fact that China - a very powerful nation compared to the Philippines - can grab any island she wants.  They can even grab the whole Tibet if they want - without dissent.  If we speak in theory: what if China grabs Palawan Island - the biggest island that is closer to the South China sea.  What can the lame duck Philippine government do?  Declare war against China?
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its already happened...they just took over one of the islands claimed by the PR claiming to protect chinese fishermen then they fortified the island and warned the PR not to fly or get too close or the deffences will open fire on them.....the gov has been complaining about it but no one really cares about the gov's whining..not even our soo called "ALLY" america.
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post Sep 27 2005, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (JuliusMariaLourdes @ Sep 26 2005, 11:41 AM)
I think the RP owns the Spratley Islands.

But it does not really matter what I think.  What counts most is the fact that China - a very powerful nation compared to the Philippines - can grab any island she wants.  They can even grab the whole Tibet if they want - without dissent.  If we speak in theory: what if China grabs Palawan Island - the biggest island that is closer to the South China sea.  What can the lame duck Philippine government do?  Declare war against China?
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tibet is alread in the hand of china
The US is too busy to maintian its internal problems,rita,katrina,and iraq war,afghan war. i don't think they would risk another war for some islands

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post Sep 28 2005, 04:32 AM
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QUOTE (filipinoy @ Sep 25 2005, 01:43 AM)
i heard they bought 3 submarines from China 2 yrs ago ............lol, ....iono
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No ,Malaysia bought 3 submarines from France. We placed a sub base in Teluk Sepanggar in the territory of Sabah. Yes PRC warships have been entering Malaysian waters often and were pissed off.

China has always refused to take this matter to the International court, that's why this sh#t that has been dragged for too long. If we do go to International court, better ASEAN teaming up to declare that the Spratlys is in SEA territory, then we determine which SEA gets it or whetehr we share it or turn it into an ASEAN tourist zone.
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post Sep 28 2005, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (forrestcat @ Sep 28 2005, 03:32 AM)
QUOTE (filipinoy @ Sep 25 2005, 01:43 AM)
i heard they bought 3 submarines from China 2 yrs ago ............lol, ....iono
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No ,Malaysia bought 3 submarines from France.
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lol, i know its not from china
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post Sep 29 2005, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (filipinoy @ Sep 23 2005, 10:54 PM)
QUOTE (forrestcat @ Sep 23 2005, 08:37 PM)
Too bad the Philippines are so impoverished to have any capable warships to keep check on the Chinese warships .
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let's welcome the americans again to Clark Air Base & Subic Marine & Navy base in exchange for patroling our waters..
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Hahahaha, let the Americans fu-k the Philippines again - like a mother-whore.
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post Oct 11 2005, 08:32 PM
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Old topic but since islands were mostly uninhabited and/or pirate hideouts whichever nation is physically occupying an island should be allowed to keep it. This way everybody gets to keep an island which in the future (many islands are just barely above sea level) will probably be underwater with the ocean levels going up. For those who want US in area. Any US citizen can claim for the US an uninhabited island that is not under anyones jurisdiction under the Guano Island Act of 1856 (law is still in effect). Thats how the US got most of those small pacific and caribbean atolls . Guano use to be big business.
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