ancient egyptians and angkor wat Options

[JaM]

Last year I discovered there are definite E.African bantu/Japanese language similarities which are beyond coincidence. A month ago I found even Somali contains identical Japanese. In my free time I have continued linguistic analyses and stumbled across extremely interesting reading.
Apparently the ancient Egyptians were only part of an Afro-Asian dominion that began in N.Africa over 10,000 years ago when it was still wet. It extended from Nubia,across the Red Sea into the Middle East ,beyond India as far as the Mekong delta. Basically they controlled the main water systems the Nile,Tigris/Euphrates, the Ganges and the Mekong.

http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/search?q=angkor+wat
Having googled am not surprised. Many of those faces are so African only someone with unconscious leanings would deny. In fact the real reason for Viet/Khmer hostility is the ancient black African nature of the latter that the Viets find detestable. The 2 people have fought for millenia as I'm sure you do know.
Returning to the matter, in essence,ancient African ruler-priests sent missionaries spreading the idea of redemption,reincarnation and a single main God with various lesser deities. Angkor wat is a giant symbolisation of those ideas.

Dude, ancient Egypt ended more than a thousand years before the Angkor Wat was built. No connection there, I'm afraid.

[thekyuke]

Okay,have it your own way! Midnight-Night_Sun, I quoted KC Chang and actually avoided that link that Clyde Winters link cause he's a known Afrocentric. But,you insist:

The eastern coast was a major area of Black habitation in ancient times. The egret bird is one of the popular symbols of the southern Chinese ethnic groups.1

This view is also supported by many archaeologists including K.C. Chang (1987) whose evidence indicates that the neolithic Mongoloid population of north China resembled the Oceanic- mongoloid type, but not the modern mongoloid group we find living in China and much of southeast Asia today.

If you refuse to read and comprehend basic English we can't make any headway.

Dude, ancient Egypt ended more than a thousand years before the Angkor Wat was built. No connection there, I'm afraid.

Yes,JaM,by prevailing orthodoxies you're correct but according to the new theory (I KNOW ITS UNPROVEN! BUT ITS NOT IMPLAUSIBLE) the Sphinx and Giza pyramid are both significantly eroded by rainfall. The last time the Sahara was wet enough to erode sandstone was the Wet Holocene,roughly 7000-10000 bc. Angkor wat follows the same architectural rule stressing the importance of the number 72 and its also fact as I've shown that many Africans had migrated to the wider region which was part of the world Afro-Asian dominion.
Angkor wat may well be proven to be much older or rebuilding upon the foundation of much earlier previous temples.

[JaM]

Okay,have it your own way! Midnight-Night_Sun, I quoted KC Chang and actually avoided that link that Clyde Winters link cause he's a known Afrocentric. But,you insist:

If you refuse to read and comprehend basic English we can't make any headway.

Yes,JaM,by prevailing orthodoxies you're correct but according to the new theory (I KNOW ITS UNPROVEN! BUT ITS NOT IMPLAUSIBLE) the Sphinx and Giza pyramid are both significantly eroded by rainfall. The last time the Sahara was wet enough to erode sandstone was the Wet Holocene,roughly 7000-10000 bc. Angkor wat follows the same architectural rule stressing the importance of the number 72 and its also fact as I've shown that many Africans had migrated to the wider region which was part of the world Afro-Asian dominion.
Angkor wat may well be proven to be much older or rebuilding upon the foundation of much earlier previous temples.

Well, if we go far enough back, we all originate in Africa, so what? Some people resemble Africans more than others, in superficial way, but that doesn't make them any more African than anyone else.

Do you have any evidence for your assertion, other than some interpretation of alleged visual likeness based on statues and architecture? Or do you seriously claim that South East Asia was under direct African rule or influence a few thousand years back? Angkor in general looks a lot more like old Indian architecture than anything African. Many of the other site at Angkor is older than Angkor Wat, but they're nowhere near the age of the ancient Egyptian temples. If the sphinx is older than usually assumed it just makes the difference in age greater still.

[Mid-Night_Sun]

Okay,have it your own way! Midnight-Night_Sun, I quoted KC Chang and actually avoided that link that Clyde Winters link cause he's a known Afrocentric. But,you insist:

If you refuse to read and comprehend basic English we can't make any headway.

GOOD, lets get at the source. which is afrocentrists.

are you serious? you do realize i have dismantled pretty much every stupid claim your link had right? everything they said was wrong. the chinese characters have NO meaning of black, no records say what they claimed. im still waiting for the Chinese records that you guys claim say this and that.

the ONLY thing of Chang's work sourced to was his info on the CULTURE and the BIRDS.

man....your quote doesnt remotely prove Shang was black. it doesnt even say they are negrito or negroid it said they are mongoloid.

you did not QUOTE KC Chang. you and the rest of the sites misconstrued and twisted his work. you committed academic FRAUD and if you ever made it to university you would be KICKED OUT for it.


"These suns in reality were birds. This bird myth probably refers to the "black birds" that founded the Shang Dynasty." (Chang 1987)
""Three persons including Jian Di went to take a bath. They saw that a black bird dropped an egg. Jian Di took and devoured it, became impregnated and gave birth to Xieh. Xieh grew up, assisted Yu in his work to control the flood with success". (Chang 1980)
"Heaven bade the dark bird/ to come down and bear Shang". (Chang 1980,p.211)
The Yin were classical mongoloid people related to the Thai and other small mongoloid austronesian speaking peoples situated in Southeast Asia. (Chang 1964; Winters 1986b)



pretty much every single SOURCED sentence was about creation legend and bird/animal culture. it was a foolish individuals extra added interpretation that Shang anything had to do with africans.



get it through your head. even the abrorignal negritos of taiwan got such a description that makes NO SENSE AT ALL if ancient Chinese were remotely similar to african.

This post has been edited by Mid-Night_Sun: Mar 18 2011, 02:52 PM

[thekyuke]

Well, if we go far enough back, we all originate in Africa, so what? Some people resemble Africans more than others, in superficial way, but that doesn't make them any more African than anyone else.

Do you have any evidence for your assertion, other than some interpretation of alleged visual likeness based on statues and architecture? Or do you seriously claim that South East Asia was under direct African rule or influence a few thousand years back? Angkor in general looks a lot more like old Indian architecture than anything African. Many of the other site at Angkor is older than Angkor Wat, but they're nowhere near the age of the ancient Egyptian temples. If the sphinx is older than usually assumed it just makes the difference in age greater still.

Yes,I'm aware we're all African if you go back 50,000 years. Its not in my interest to go back to prehistory;I'm dealing with 10000-2000 years and later. Lets examine the regional S.E Asian popularity of the naga motif. Its found all over temples from S.India to Indonesia and many parts in between.
Interestingly among the ancient Africans/Sudroids/Dravidians/Tamils who spread its use this is the original meaning:

In the Sudroid (Indo-Negroids of India) languages of India, which are part of the Cu$hite branch
of the African languages, the term "Naga" denotes original or first...........
...
Means "Serpent" in the Vedic Sanskrit. The Hindu Naga Serpent Gods of India are mention in
the "Upanishad Texts", Nagini for the feminine. Indian Serpent Ruler, son of Kadru (Kedar in
Hebrew means Black). In ancient India , the people with the blackest skins were respected and
held to high esteem; original, first or primary. The Nagas ruled India as well as a substantial
portion of Asia from Arabia to China and the South Pacific, as well as the Indian Ocean region.
There are a few definitions of the Naga but the origin is the Naga serpent, or the Naga's a race of
serpent like people from Hindu and Buddhist mythology. The word Naga comes from the
Sanskrit and nag is still the word for snake, especially the cobra, in most of the languages of
India . The Naga is referring to the people who have full access to the Kundalini energy.
Kundalini being a serpentine force, to be honored with being called a Naga is to be wise as the
serpent

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19335515/The-Word-Naga-n-N*gga
You'll see this validates my first post where I showed how the same race in Egypt spread throughout Asia 10,000 years ago controlling the major waterways. Yes,Angkor looks Indian because they were the same people.

[kunkhmer]

^^ be honest, you're just an african-american guy and not kenyan

This post has been edited by kunkhmer: Mar 22 2011, 12:27 PM

[JaM]

Yes,I'm aware we're all African if you go back 50,000 years. Its not in my interest to go back to prehistory;I'm dealing with 10000-2000 years and later. Lets examine the regional S.E Asian popularity of the naga motif. Its found all over temples from S.India to Indonesia and many parts in between.
Interestingly among the ancient Africans/Sudroids/Dravidians/Tamils who spread its use this is the original meaning:


http://www.scribd.com/doc/19335515/The-Word-Naga-n-N*gga
You'll see this validates my first post where I showed how the same race in Egypt spread throughout Asia 10,000 years ago controlling the major waterways. Yes,Angkor looks Indian because they were the same people.

Your link is utterly ridiculous.
You showed nothing, are you familiar with the concept of conjecture? Angkor Watt doesn't just get extremely old just because you want it to be.
You obviously know nothing of value, you just read some Afrocentric crap on the net and repeat it. Nothing is too ridiculous for you to believe in. Just think for yourself instead, god dammit. Read books instead of web pages.

You believe in that crap just because you're Black, and for no other reason whatsoever. It's just mental masturbation to you. You're just like a white supremacy person, except the ideas you come up with are just black supremacy ideas instead. Same $hit, same $hitty smell.

There's really nothing to talk about.

[thekyuke]

Your link is utterly ridiculous.
You showed nothing, are you familiar with the concept of conjecture? Angkor Watt doesn't just get extremely old just because you want it to be.
You obviously know nothing of value, you just read some Afrocentric crap on the net and repeat it. Nothing is too ridiculous for you to believe in. Just think for yourself instead, god dammit. Read books instead of web pages.

You believe in that crap just because you're Black, and for no other reason whatsoever. It's just mental masturbation to you. You're just like a white supremacy person, except the ideas you come up with are just black supremacy ideas instead. Same $hit, same $hitty smell.

There's really nothing to talk about.

My,my,my,my,JaM who peed in your cornflakes this morning?? I admit I began with a hypothesis about ancient Egypt. Though its fact that Africans were present throughout Asia. I've given links and sources of Americans,Chinese and even contemporaries of the Khmer who mentioned dark Africans among normal Asians from as far back as 1700 bc.
To prove my argument I added the description of the Tamil/Dravidians who invented the naga motif which is popular all over S.E Asia. Okay,explain to me why the Khmer are so dark and African looking? Where do the lips and noses come from? I swear some of you are more negroid than I am,a semi bantu/ku$hite Kikuyu!

[kunkhmer]

^ dark khmer like the girl in my sig doesnt look african at all and you're just trying to claim other races as yours, to unite them and hate on "whitey." even indigenous negritos of SEA arent even african and are genetically distant from black populations of africa.

and egyptians, yes they're african but i've never considered them black or negroid.....african-american guy, there's nothing african about you either and thats why you're pretending to be kenyan, its not your fault though since your people were brought over as slaves and your african culture was taken away from you......black americans, culturally arent much different from predominately white anglo descent americans, especially white southerners....u got the same surnames now,religion and basically eat the same food.

many black americans today also have some white admixture in them but rarely acknowledge it and theres this common belief with black americans who assume a lighter skinned/straighter haired grandparent/great grand parent/relative etc must be mixed with amerindian but they never consider the fact those features most likely came from white ancestors.....pretty interesting if you ask me, what you think went on between white slave owners and black female slaves? even up until the 1960's white men were known to have black mistresses but the roles probably reversed sometime in the 70's and today black men/white women couples are the most common interracial pairings i usually see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWzsSg4TUMw...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRcex9NEJZE

btw, i'm not gonna lie and the thought of black women having sexual relations with white men turns me on a little.....dark chocolate nubian goddesses with big butts getting pounded by non-black males is pretty hot

This post has been edited by kunkhmer: Mar 23 2011, 09:22 PM

[nanalan]

^ dark khmer like the girl in my sig doesnt look african at all and you're just trying to claim other races as yours, to unite them and hate on "whitey." even indigenous negritos of SEA arent even african and genetically distant from black populations of africa.

and egyptians, yes they're african but i've never considered them black or negroid.....african-american guy, there's nothing african about you either and thats why you're pretending to be kenyan, its not your fault though since your people were brought over as slaves and your african culture was taken away from you......black americans, culturally arent much different from predominately white anglo descent americans, especially white southerners....u got the same surnames now,religion and basically eat the same food.

many black americans today also have some white admixture in them but dont really acknowledge it and theres this common belief with black americans and the notion that someone with lighter skinned/straighter haired grandparents,great grand parents,relatives etc are of black/amerindian admixture but never consider the fact those features most likely came from white ancestors.....pretty interesting if you ask me, what you think went on between white slave owners and black female slaves? even up until the 1960's white men were known to have black mistresses but the roles probably reversed sometime in the 70's and today black men/white women couples are the most common interracial pairings that i've personally seen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWzsSg4TUMw...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRcex9NEJZE

btw, i'm not gonna lie and the thought of black women having sexual relations with white men turns me on a little.....dark chocolate nubian goddesses with big butts getting pounded by non-black males is pretty hot

I'm not going to lie. Black girls are sexy. It's human instincts to like big hips... But I don't fantasize and jerk off to the thought of a black female getting done by a white guy. Messed up, man, messed up.

[kunkhmer]

^ did i say that, why are u putting words in my mouth? and whats so special about seeing black women getting done by black men anyways?.......boring

This post has been edited by kunkhmer: Mar 23 2011, 06:20 PM

[thekyuke]

Your responses,while utterly irrelevant to the matter reveal much. Why you insist on sexualising the subject,calling me Black American, (make me Croatian while you're at it!)ignoring the links ,sources and questions posed. Who exactly is the mental masturbator?
I can understand your inferiority complex,its actually to be expected: being the poorest and darkest S.E Asian in an Anglosaxon world would give even well-adjusted individuals issues. However satisfying the emotional release of denial and vituperation I have shown unmistakable African presence in early Angkor wat and indeed throughout the wider region.

[kunkhmer]

I can understand your inferiority complex,its actually to be expected: being the poorest and darkest S.E Asian in an Anglosaxon world would give even well-adjusted individuals issues. However satisfying the emotional release of denial and vituperation I have shown unmistakable African presence in early Angkor wat and indeed throughout the wider region.

dont deny it, its usually african-americans who spread propaganda like this yes there's dark cambodians but they're still mongoloids, if u dont agree than provide some proof khmers are something other than mongoloids

This post has been edited by kunkhmer: Mar 24 2011, 05:43 PM

[kunkhmer]

you insecure black-AMERICAN actually believe these people are yours? what are your intentions, to unite these races and spread more hatred against white people?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g9PTFNOU5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7k8Mlb7zNc...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfAeKhTXJ8k...feature=related

This post has been edited by kunkhmer: Mar 25 2011, 05:39 PM

[kunkhmer]

what about this? you think mongoloids are your people?! hahahaha idiot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWN-iokvEz0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shaR-ufAoPg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XClrq7T1c0g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTs3MmaEIkk

stop embarassing yourself and be proud of being black, stop stealing other cultures and rewriting your own history you damn afrocentrist.....NO OTHER RACE does this, just blacks.....specifically black-AMERICANS or poser black-AMERICANS on the net pretending to be a real african from africa....

This post has been edited by kunkhmer: Mar 25 2011, 12:24 PM

[thekyuke]

dont deny it, its usually african-americans who spread propaganda like this icon_neutral.gif yes there's dark cambodians but they're still mongoloids, if u dont agree than provide some proof khmers are something other than mongoloids

YAWWWNN!! It would be helpful if you'd restrict yourself to the subject instead of presuming to advise me. Fyi,the more I read the more it is apparent that the early Cambodia,like much of S.E Asia was as African as Nubia. To provide more evidence wouldn't make a difference and why should that fact pain you so much? Why does it throw you and your ilk into foaming denial and barking vituperation? Why do those facts make you reflexively denigrate blacks?
I've already shown you the origins of naga worship,familiar to all Asians. You've seen the temple photos depicting gods with Nubian features and peppercorn hair;and read what contemporaries said of your ancestors:what exactly is the problem??

[txoomsuab2]

don't put nagas in here, nagas r more related to sino tibetan and their beliefs is like any primitive tribal peoples. yes there were austaloids on mainlaind asia probably mixed up by now, the originals in asia probably mixed or died out or migrated out, khmers look mexican to me with a mongoloid face and some may have dark or light skin, u just want eveybody to be africans, once people leave and migrate and developed a new set of dna or genes then they're something else because they left africa

[kunkhmer]

don't put nagas in here, nagas r more related to sino tibetan and their beliefs is like any primitive tribal peoples. yes there were austaloids on mainlaind asia probably mixed up by now, the originals in asia probably mixed or died out or migrated out, khmers look mexican to me with a mongoloid face and some may have dark or light skin, u just want eveybody to be africans, once people leave and migrate and developed a new set of dna or genes then they're something else because they left africa

are you serious? ok i might see some khmers who SORTA look mexican but these people definitley dont represent the majority... or a mexican who SORTA look khmer/asian but its still a big difference. i sometimes see mexicans with "mongoloid" looking eyes but i never ever mistake them for asian

This post has been edited by kunkhmer: Apr 15 2011, 01:28 PM

[DPSlock]

are you serious? ok i might see some khmers who SORTA look mexican but these people definitley dont represent the majority... or a mexican who SORTA look khmer/asian but its still a big difference. i sometimes see mexicans with "mongoloid" looking eyes but i never ever mistake them for asian

the 2 khmer girls on the far right of your sig do look mexican

[Henry123]

Olmec were Native Americans, not African. Part 1 of 3.avi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RQM7KHJmeM...feature=related



This post has been edited by Henry123: Apr 15 2011, 02:45 PM