Why are the Malaysians heartless ??, For not helping Vietnamese refugees Options

[kiepngheo]

when i watch this video , i could'nt imagine why most Malaysians were there just to watch people dying instead of helping . Mahathir , the former prime minister , once said that Vietnamese refugees who tried to enter Malaysian water would be shot. first i heard that ,i could n't believe that the leader of a country could say such stupid , heartless , outrageous thing . but after searching on the inernet , he really said that .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuO-TuOagxw

[Protoculture]

But did we really shot the Viets, no sirreeee!

Tun Dr Mahathir actually enacted the Viet refugee centers in MY, which become the major getaway for Viet's boat people from 1980s, which most of them relocated to USA, Canada, Australia & other countries. A few Viets become naturalised Malaysians, while others returned back to Vietnam in late 1990s as Vietnam prospered economically.

We've yet to shot dead any Viets .... in fact, we're swamped by Viets workers who worked at Malaysian factories.

[preahvihear]

when i watch this video , i could'nt imagine why most Malaysians were there just to watch people dying instead of helping . Mahathir , the former prime minister , once said that Vietnamese refugees who tried to enter Malaysian water would be shot. first i heard that ,i could n't believe that the leader of a country could say such stupid , heartless , outrageous thing . but after searching on the inernet , he really said that .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuO-TuOagxw

You should know the true nature of Vietnamese. They are predatory parasitic arrogant ethnocentric people. Wherever they are they will destroy. They absorbed the entire Champa kingdom and killed off many Cham people, causing the displacement and fleeing of the Cham to many other countries in the region. During the Vietnam War, the Filipinos were fighting for the freedom of the South Vietnamese but the South Vietnamese turned around and STOLE and occupied a Filipino-controlled island until today. Look at the various Vietnamese enclaves in the United States. They cause a lot of problem to the long-time residents in those areas. Look at the case of Vietnamese people in relation to Cambodia. Even though, Vietnam is well developed with high employment rate, the Vietnamese settlers keep flocking into the Cambodia, a poorest country in the entire Southeast Asia and among the poorest in the world. Vietnamese fishermen supported by the Vietnamese navy come to plunder the fish resurces from the Cambodian sea at will without any regards to the Cambodian territory and international law at all. However, there were news reports of Vietnamese navy and Vietnamese fishermen capturing and killing the Cambodian fishermen doing activities within the Cambodian territorial sea and water. While illegal Vietnamese settlers take roots in Cambodia, Cambodians who went to seek jobs in Vietnam got deported by the truck loads back to Cambodia. So it is a good thing that the Malaysians know a thing or two about the predatory parasitic arrogant Viets. I thought only the Chinese and the Cambodians know about the Viets, but it seems more and more people are learning about the true inherent behavior of the Viets.

In addition, Vietnam has no humanitarianism toward any kind of people. There are always strings attached. There is a phrase that says, "To meet the Vietnamese is to always lose something; therefore, it is best not to have anything to deal with them."

[Protoculture]

Dear Preah, pls do not spew any ill-wills towards Viets in MYChat. If you've a grudge against them, that's your rights, but pls don't bring your turfwar here.

[swingdoctor]

The majority of the Vietnamese people I have met are hardworking, intelligent people with a love for their community. I also have the prevelidge to call some of them my friends. A few have spent time in internment camps in Malaysia and to be honest it saddens and to some extent embarasses me(as an ex-Malaysian) when they recant their experiences to me. Without going into any detail, lets just say that their experiences were less then positive.

However before being critical of Malaysia, we need to put things in perspective. Refugees of any kind are a problem for any nation that has to deal with significant numbers of them and Malaysia is no different. Is Malaysia different, can this be used as an excuse. In an ideal world I guess not and although Malaysia isn't the best example of how to deal with refugees, she's not the worst either. Should they have been put in internment camps, in an ideal world I guess not but what other choice did the Malaysian govnt have? Yes they could have absorbed them into their community, but at what cost? At the time Malaysia was a much poorer country then it is today. And what about the social upheval? Would the majority Malay population have accepted the potential change in balance of power? We have seen in 1971, only a few years before these internment camps, what happens when Malays look like losing the balance of power. Could the govnt have taken the risk, humanitarian or not? What about the Chinese minority who traditionally did not get along with Vietnamese?

It is very easy for us to be armchair critics for something like this. Yes, refugees can and probably should be treated better by the world community in general, but before Malaysia is singled out one should look at the rest of the world in general and in particular your own country before weilding the stick. I know this is not an excuse but, if you want to be critical of Malaysia, then you should also be critical of most of the rest of the world.

Having said that, the treatment of true refugees, really needs to improve worldwide.

[preahvihear]

Dear Preah, pls do not spew any ill-wills towards Viets in MYChat. If you've a grudge against them, that's your rights, but pls don't bring your turfwar here.

WTH I simply speak the truth and you don't even have the brain to understand the point of the message. You try Vietnamese and you will be absorbed. Their symbol is "bamboo" and the nature of bamboo is to spread and displace all like wild fire.

The one who has a problem is the poster of the thread. Perhaps you should reread it closely. Here you go:

kiepngheo: when i watch this video , i could'nt imagine why most Malaysians were there just to watch people dying instead of helping . Mahathir , the former prime minister , once said that Vietnamese refugees who tried to enter Malaysian water would be shot. first i heard that ,i could n't believe that the leader of a country could say such stupid , heartless , outrageous thing . but after searching on the inernet , he really said that .

If I may add, who want to deal with the Viets anyway since they are THIEVES and parasitic users of the natural resources of the host countries. It is all about acting and at the end they will rob you clean. How many nations in Asia have the Viets been provoking countless troubles with. Well if you don't know, here goes: China, Cambodia, Laos, Champa, Thailand, and the Phillipines...

This post has been edited by preahvihear: Jul 6 2009, 06:22 PM

[preahvihear]

The majority of the Vietnamese people I have met are hardworking, intelligent people with a love for their community.

Mark your observation well, swingdoctor. If they are hardworking and intelligent, therefore they should stay within their country's limits. However, they don't, and they just come to use the host countries' resources for their own benefit to improve "their [own] community". That is what thieves do. They rob from others to improve their livelihood. Thieves are hardwork and intelligent and that is why they can fool and easily take things from others. The Viet thieves do not ever contribute to any of the host countries.

Have you ever seen any refugees got accepted by the Vietnamese or their country of Vietnam? NO! The Vietnamese take the land from the native peoples, and on top of it they put down the native peoples and claim that they are superior to the natives. Ironically, you also praise them as "hardworking and intelligent". I wonder what they think of you.

[swingdoctor]

Mark your observation well, swingdoctor. If they are hardworking and intelligent, therefore they should stay within their country's limits. However, they don't, and they just come to use the host countries' resources for their own benefit to improve "their [own] community". That is what thieves do. They rob from others to improve their livelihood. Thieves are hardwork and intelligent and that is why they can fool and easily take things from others. The Viet thieves do not ever contribute to any of the host countries.

Have you ever seen any refugees got accepted by the Vietnamese or their country of Vietnam? NO! The Vietnamese take the land from the native peoples, and on top of it they put down the native peoples and claim that they are superior to the natives. Ironically, you also praise them as "hardworking and intelligent". I wonder what they think of you.

When I say their community I don't just mean the Vietnamese community, I mean the Australian community on a larger scale and the community they live in ie their local area. The Vietnamese community in Australia, in my opinion has made this country richer culturally and the vast majority of them are productive contributers to our community.

WRT refugees, how many refugees actually try to get asylum in Vietnam? In terms of taking land from the native people, I assume you mean through history and through history tell me which people haven't. There are very few countries in the world today where the first inhabitants still "rule". I don't need them to tell me what they think of me, I'm quite comfortable in what I think of myself.

I have a Vietnamese friend who went through medical school with me, upon graduation, instead of setting up a lucrative practice in the city, he decided to set up his clinic in a rural Aboriginal community, providing "free" medical care. Among all the doctor friends I have, he is the only one to have done something like that.

[preahvihear]

When I say their community I don't just mean the Vietnamese community, I mean the Australian community on a larger scale and the community they live in ie their local area. The Vietnamese community in Australia, in my opinion has made this country richer culturally and the vast majority of them are productive contributers to our community.

WRT refugees, how many refugees actually try to get asylum in Vietnam? In terms of taking land from the native people, I assume you mean through history and through history tell me which people haven't. There are very few countries in the world today where the first inhabitants still "rule". I don't need them to tell me what they think of me, I'm quite comfortable in what I think of myself.
I have a Vietnamese friend who went through medical school with me, upon graduation, instead of setting up a lucrative practice in the city, he decided to set up his clinic in a rural Aboriginal community, providing "free" medical care. Among all the doctor friends I have, he is the only one to have done something like that.

Nice try Dawg. I can always smell a DAWG as you from afar. Your evidence simply does not add up to your favorable OPINION of them Viets. In fact, the government of Australia has always had its handful with the Viet immigrants. Why don't you google for Viet criminals in Australia. Do you remember that one Vietnamese Australian who made the news headlines around the world for shaming Australia by getting hanged in Singapore by the government of that city-state. Do you know how many patients were dead because of the misdiagnosed by the Viet "doctors"? Enough of your example of a Vietnamese free clinic in the rural area, DAWG. This is similar to the numerous liquor stores sprouting up in the poor neighborhoods. Your Viet dawg is out there to get experience from those native people. Just like the unscrupulous owners of liquer stores are out there to get the money from the alcohol-addicted customers. So much for the help.

Dawg, stop changing the subject. It is unbelievable that you extol these Viet minority when they use the resources provided by the Australian government and tax payers. Back in their country of origin, the Viets continually bash their own minority peopleS and do not ever value those peoples' contribution at all. What can I say, DAWG, you are just a hypocrtical dawng and therefore it is only natural that you are flocked together with the Viet dawgs. Last request though: Don't go around misdiagnose your patients because if you are not up to the job, don't guess for people are not cars.

[Protoculture]

Sigh, get this bub, did you just come here to provoke us or the Viets? Take your turfwar there @ VietChat. We don't give a fart. MY has been economic haven to countless migrants. They come, & they go. They even contribute to MY development.

Get this straight, we ain't that racist to Viets. Even some Malays in Terengganu are descended from Viet Chams. Naturalised Viet refugees who become our citizens have fully assimilated into either Malaysian Malays or Malaysian Chinese.

Nowadays we've only Viet migrant workers working in construction sectors & manufacturing industry. There's nothing wrong in that. Viet workers generally do not make troubles to Malaysian society.

Take your war elsewhere.

[preahvihear]

Sigh, get this bub, did you just come here to provoke us or the Viets? Take your turfwar there @ VietChat. We don't give a fart. MY has been economic haven to countless migrants. They come, & they go. They even contribute to MY development.

Get this straight, we ain't that racist to Viets. Even some Malays in Terengganu are descended from Viet Chams. Naturalised Viet refugees who become our citizens have fully assimilated into either Malaysian Malays or Malaysian Chinese.

Nowadays we've only Viet migrant workers working in construction sectors & manufacturing industry. There's nothing wrong in that. Viet workers generally do not make troubles to Malaysian society.

Take your war elsewhere.

Dang, man, you start the problem and now you want me to blame me. WTF? OK, I will keep quiet. By the way, there is no such thing as Viet Chams. So get your terminology straight. Chams are Chams and Viets are Viets. However, please read the hightlighted parts of your own thought above.

[Protoculture]

By the way, there is no such thing as Viet Chams. So get your terminology straight. Chams are Chams and Viets are Viets.

Vietnam are made by many ethnicities & tribes. Yes, there are Viet Chams as well. I in fact know atleast 3 of 'em who studied at International Islamic University in Malaysia.

I used Viet to generally to those of Vietnam nationalities, for easy net usage & personal preference.

Dang, man, you start the problem and now you want me to blame me. WTF

Nope, kiepngheo started the thread. I only corrected his view. You come with all guns blazing in condemning Viets. WTF indeed ...

[preahvihear]

Vietnam are made by many ethnicities & tribes. Yes, there are Viet Chams as well. I in fact know atleast 3 of 'em who studied at International Islamic University in Malaysia. I used Viet to generally to those of Vietnam nationalities, for easy net usage & personal preference. Nope, kiepngheo started the thread. I only corrected his view. You come with all guns blazing in condemning Viets. WTF indeed ...

KiepNgheo is a Viet and you need Viets for your personal preference and so you should keep flocking together with them. Keep on hanging and riding with the Viets, Kompung BOI.

[Protoculture]

Its up to you, troll. Its MYChat, Malaysian turf. Go to your own since you can't even contribute positively in MYChat.

[preahvihear]

Its up to you, troll. Its MYChat, Malaysian turf. Go to your own since you can't even contribute positively in MYChat.

Wow, so this is the educated mind of Malaysia. I can't believe it that you have been reduced completely to a name-calling idiot that will eventually be admitted into the top-notch Malaysian asylum soon.

[swingdoctor]

Nice try Dawg. I can always smell a DAWG as you from afar. Your evidence simply does not add up to your favorable OPINION of them Viets. In fact, the government of Australia has always had its handful with the Viet immigrants. Why don't you google for Viet criminals in Australia. Do you remember that one Vietnamese Australian who made the news headlines around the world for shaming Australia by getting hanged in Singapore by the government of that city-state. Do you know how many patients were dead because of the misdiagnosed by the Viet "doctors"? Enough of your example of a Vietnamese free clinic in the rural area, DAWG. This is similar to the numerous liquor stores sprouting up in the poor neighborhoods. Your Viet dawg is out there to get experience from those native people. Just like the unscrupulous owners of liquer stores are out there to get the money from the alcohol-addicted customers. So much for the help.

Dawg, stop changing the subject. It is unbelievable that you extol these Viet minority when they use the resources provided by the Australian government and tax payers. Back in their country of origin, the Viets continually bash their own minority peopleS and do not ever value those peoples' contribution at all. What can I say, DAWG, you are just a hypocrtical dawng and therefore it is only natural that you are flocked together with the Viet dawgs. Last request though: Don't go around misdiagnose your patients because if you are not up to the job, don't guess for people are not cars.

Well I guess the question is are you from Vietnam?

Have you been to Australia? If not then how the fu-k do you know how they are viewed here? Yes there are Vietnamese people here who are a burden to our society, but you would be a racist if you paint the entire community with the same brush. FYI, all the other minority races including the majority white anglo saxon race and aboriginie population also have their social misfits. In fact why don't you google alchoholism in the aboriginal community and see what you come up with. And how dare you insult my friend when you don't even know him. Tell me what community service do you contribute to? Other wise what gives you the right to judge others. And show me what evidence you have to show that Vietnamese doctors contribute to more patient deaths then doctors of other races.

As far as we are concerned, yes Australia has provided the opportunity for the Vietnamese to succeed, but she does for all her residents not just the Vietnamese. In fact considering that most came over with nothing but the shirts on their backs, what they have achieved is nothing short of remarkable. Australia provided the opportunity, their hard work did the rest.

Call me what you want, you're racist.

[swingdoctor]

Wow, so this is the educated mind of Malaysia. I can't believe it that you have been reduced completely to a name-calling idiot that will eventually be admitted into the top-notch Malaysian asylum soon.

Pot calling the kettle black, haha. What an @$$, you've done exactly the same thing.

[preahvihear]

Well I guess the question is are you from Vietnam?

Have you been to Australia? If not then how the fu-k do you know how they are viewed here? Yes there are Vietnamese people here who are a burden to our society, but you would be a racist if you paint the entire community with the same brush. FYI, all the other minority races including the majority white anglo saxon race and aboriginie population also have their social misfits. In fact why don't you google alchoholism in the aboriginal community and see what you come up with. And how dare you insult my friend when you don't even know him. Tell me what community service do you contribute to? Other wise what gives you the right to judge others. And show me what evidence you have to show that Vietnamese doctors contribute to more patient deaths then doctors of other races.

As far as we are concerned, yes Australia has provided the opportunity for the Vietnamese to succeed, but she does for all her residents not just the Vietnamese. In fact considering that most came over with nothing but the shirts on their backs, what they have achieved is nothing short of remarkable. Australia provided the opportunity, their hard work did the rest. Call me what you want, you're racist.

I am of an upper class society and my various companies and products have contributed the the improvement of lives the world over, if you should know. For your information, I also have business operation in Vietnam, you lowly under class. Without the medical tools and medicines provided by my comapnies to the world, you are useless in your field. Now bow your head and pray that you will not lose your professional license soon.

[preahvihear]

Pot calling the kettle black, haha. What an @$$, you've done exactly the same thing.

I know it. The more you hang and cheat with the Viets, you will eventually become a gangster.

[swingdoctor]

I am of an upper class society and my various companies and products have contributed the the improvement of lives the world over, if you should know. For your information, I also have business operation in Vietnam, you lowly under class. Without the medical tools and medicines provided by my comapnies to the world, you are useless in your field. Now bow your head and pray that you will not lose your professional license soon.

As far as I'm concerned if you are getting rich from it, its not a community service. but its obvious from your responses, you are trying very hard to be a troll, so I guess Proto is right, it is better to just ignore you. Bye-bye .