Assume you are president of china Options

[devils666]

No; any decent human is anti-fascist.

"Race nationalism" sounds like what Hitler wanted.

But you accused the Japanese of being fascist, so you are de-facto anti-Japanese.

[Edinburgh]

But you accused the Japanese of being fascist, so you are de-facto anti-Japanese.

The Japanese were fascist during WWII.

However, Japan is no longer ruled by a fascist government.

[devils666]

The Japanese were fascist during WWII.

However, Japan is no longer ruled by a fascist government.

Once a fascist, always a fascist. Fascist mentality creates psycho's who do Kamikaze suicide or self-immolation. Not too many countries can say they tried to take over half the world...except maybe Britain...

[AnybodyKiller]

Fascism can spring from extreme capitalism and extreme socialism/communism. Fascism has more to do with an overly centralized power structure than with any political ideology.

For instance Norway 'used' to have very strict policies for immigration, which is basically what you guys are talking about when you say race nationalism, but was still under 'democratic socialism' and not 'national socialism'. 'Strong man' leadership while necessary in times of war, must be checked by the guns of the people at all times. Too much power can make anyone crazy.

I hate labels in terms of politics, it stops people from thinking for themselves. For instance why does rights for workers automatically have to be tied in with multiculturalism, affirmative action etc. If the backbone of your economy can't support themselves, your economy is doomed for failure. Evidence of this can be seen in today's current events.

Norway is one of the only European countries whose economic outlook is stable too by the way.

This post has been edited by AnybodyKiller: Feb 15 2012, 04:04 PM

[ReginaRae]

Wipe Mao Zedong out of Chinese history. It's his fault Chinese people these days have little freedom and aren't able to have any sense of self. He did away with real Chinese values and instilled this communist garbage. In my opinion he ruined China and everything China stood for while killing millions of people in the process. I don't think he's worthy of anyone's admiration.

There's so much more I'd like to do though. The education system needs drastic reform. I'd get better teachers that actually like their job and care about their students, and the system will be more Westernised. There's something unfair about the way it is now. It's...stressful with too much focus on the details and not enough on the whole picture, which places people in schools they shouldn't be in or prevents them from going to schools they deserve. I'd also tend to the Tibetan/Uyghur issues. A happy medium can and must be met there, especially for Tibetans. I won't allow that struggle to go on any longer. There's a way to satisfy them without doing something outlandish.

So basically get rid of Mao/communism, fix minority issues and upgrade the education system. These three things will make a world of difference to China.

[Yerroperil]

Wipe Mao Zedong out of Chinese history. It's his fault Chinese people these days have little freedom and aren't able to have any sense of self. He did away with real Chinese values and instilled this communist garbage. In my opinion he ruined China and everything China stood for while killing millions of people in the process. I don't think he's worthy of anyone's admiration.

There's so much more I'd like to do though. The education system needs drastic reform. I'd get better teachers that actually like their job and care about their students, and the system will be more Westernised. There's something unfair about the way it is now. It's...stressful with too much focus on the details and not enough on the whole picture, which places people in schools they shouldn't be in or prevents them from going to schools they deserve. I'd also tend to the Tibetan/Uyghur issues. A happy medium can and must be met there, especially for Tibetans. I won't allow that struggle to go on any longer. There's a way to satisfy them without doing something outlandish.

So basically get rid of Mao/communism, fix minority issues and upgrade the education system. These three things will make a world of difference to China.

Obvious troll is obvious and no one gives a damn about your bruised legs.

[Boron]

Once a fascist, always a fascist. Fascist mentality creates psycho's who do Kamikaze suicide or self-immolation. Not too many countries can say they tried to take over half the world...except maybe Britain...

Japan at least had the excuse it was strangled of resources. Britain just slowly got into the people's minds and conquered others territory by territory over a period of 100 years.

Obvious troll is obvious and no one gives a damn about your bruised legs.

She's always high sounding but she never has anything useful (or accurate) to say.

This post has been edited by Boron: Feb 15 2012, 09:13 PM

[CRYPT]

Wipe Mao Zedong out of Chinese history. It's his fault Chinese people these days have little freedom and aren't able to have any sense of self. He did away with real Chinese values and instilled this communist garbage. In my opinion he ruined China and everything China stood for while killing millions of people in the process. I don't think he's worthy of anyone's admiration.

There's so much more I'd like to do though. The education system needs drastic reform. I'd get better teachers that actually like their job and care about their students, and the system will be more Westernised. There's something unfair about the way it is now. It's...stressful with too much focus on the details and not enough on the whole picture, which places people in schools they shouldn't be in or prevents them from going to schools they deserve. I'd also tend to the Tibetan/Uyghur issues. A happy medium can and must be met there, especially for Tibetans. I won't allow that struggle to go on any longer. There's a way to satisfy them without doing something outlandish.

So basically get rid of Mao/communism, fix minority issues and upgrade the education system. These three things will make a world of difference to China.

What are these "Chinese values" that you speak of? Inflated egos? Foot-binding? Being meek and subservient? Bowing like a good Chinaman?

Mao gave confidence to the Chinese people and prevented China from being dominated by the USSR, Japan, the US, and any other imperialist power. He turned China from a corrupt, backward country to a rising superpower.

[InitialDJay]

i c that a lot of you guys mind is leaning toward the social and demographic issue. kind of interesting... thanks

The Japanese were fascist during WWII.

However, Japan is no longer ruled by a fascist government.

do you think if US left Japan and Japan can re-militarize again, what are the chances they return back to being a fascist?

[ElapsePride]

Obvious troll is obvious and no one gives a damn about your bruised legs.

IMO, not saying I always agree with her but regard to what she says above, I don't think she's trolling, but making a unfavoured point, which many hate to hear.

This post has been edited by ElapsePride: Feb 16 2012, 02:11 AM

[Edinburgh]

do you think if US left Japan and Japan can re-militarize again, what are the chances they return back to being a fascist?

I don't see why Japan would try to pursue a militarist agenda again. China is far too large for Japan to try to contain without the US. They also have good diplomatic relations and interdependent trade with South Korea. The main issue facing Japan is its demographic problem.

To answer your OP:

I think China should institute liberal reforms such as freedom of press and free speech. These things will help to make the government more accountable to the people by exposing corruption and will help to expose firms that make toxic fake products. The Chinese government banned the media from reporting the toxic baby milk power issue, a free press would have been allowed to report it. This would directly lead to safer manufacturing practices.

I don't think "democracy" is suitable at this time for China. The institutional reforms which ensure a free and open society need to be developed and embedded into the mentality of the people - people need to learn to value things like free speech and free press. If you have poor institutions, you will end up with the kind of "democracy" you see in (post-war) Iraq, (post-revolution) Egypt.

On international relations: China should continue to engage with the West by continuing its policy of non-confrontation.

China should stop being suspicious of its neighbours in Asia and work towards a greater union (something like the EU). The US can only be expelled from the Asia region if China is able convince its neighbours that China is not a military danger. This requires as much emphasis on soft power as China seems to place on hard military power. (Japan transformed from being the most hated in all of Asia after WWII to having the most popular Asian pop-culture - that's soft power.)

On the economy:
The low RMB is detrimental to the welfare of ordinary Chinese workers and is one of the major economic imbalances in the world economy. A gradual movement towards a quicker rate of RMB appreciation (but not necessary a floating exchange, yet) would give Chinese workers greater consumer purchasing power in the world market as well as allowing Chinese investors to accumulate foreign capital at faster rate.

The housing bubble and bad loans issue in China is a serious ticking time-bomb with the ability to deliver a nasty and costly shock to a fragile world economy. The government should raise interest rates gradually in order to gently let the housing bubble deflate; bad loans should be restructured in order to reduce indebtedness to a realistically repayable level, a bailout of the state-owned banks should be prepared in case those banks face substantial capital destruction.

China should seek a quick resolution of the Eurozone crisis by working with the EU to ensure sustainability of the Euro. This would require a substantial capital commitment from China but it should be kept in mind that the EU is a major market for Chinese exports; being on good terms for 'saving' the Euro would be a boon to China's bad image in the west. Good relations with the EU is necessary for future stability and prosperity of China.

On a 'societal'/cultural level:
Good manners and etiquette should be taught as an official education policy. Many parents are not capable of transmitting modern cosmopolitan manners because they are nouveaux riches or they are from the rural poor. It is therefore no coincidence that in Hong Kong, Mainland Chinese are known for their un-cosmopolitan behaviour and unpleasant manner. That needs to change if China wants to make a good impression.

Traditional Chinese characters should be reintroduced into the national curriculum.

[Hugham]

hypothetically speaking..you are a leader of china or one of the important government official, what would you propose to change in china? it can be from anything from political reform, economic reform, cultural reform, education reform, etc.. but only one you can do....

The Restoration of Taoism and Confucianism as the National Religion and Moral Guidance!

[SkyBurial]

1) Get rid of the One Child Policy.

2) Make sure border regions are connected through trains and tighter integration. Also get rid of autonomous regions.

3) Cut down on pollution.

4) Get rid of corruption.

5) I would like traditional characters back.

6) Get rid of English from the Gao Kao. Seriously, it leads to so much waste of talents.

7) Much stricter immigration control on foreigners/non-Chinese.

8) Support for overseas Chinese and luring back talents to China.

9) Get Taiwan back peacefully.

10) Revitalization of Chinese culture and values such as Confucianism and Hanfu.

11) Laxer censorship control.

This post has been edited by SkyBurial: Feb 16 2012, 11:17 AM

[Yerroperil]

IMO, not saying I always agree with her but regard to what she says above, I don't think she's trolling, but making a unfavoured point, which many hate to hear.

Well her posts demonizes China,and how America is the last bastion of justice in this world. I wonder why she doesn't mention Tibetans killing Huis and Hans,only how evil PRC is for including Tibet.

[Boron]

IMO, not saying I always agree with her but regard to what she says above, I don't think she's trolling, but making a unfavoured point, which many hate to hear.

She's full of bull$hit. Teachers that actually like their job? Has she ever seen a Chinese teacher? She's thinking out her @$$ from a failed US school.

And let's ignore the western guy that talks too much about China.

This post has been edited by Boron: Feb 16 2012, 03:47 PM

[yugi2013]

i would drop all support for syria, and focus china relationship with surrounding neighbors

This post has been edited by yugi2013: Feb 16 2012, 03:49 PM

[AsiaticGlory]

I think American schools are actually doing worse than that of China if you can believe it. The problem with American schools is they focus too much on the stupid kids. What happens is that the smart kids never learn good study skills since they can get through a dumbed down school system without trying. As a result, you have a lot of smart kids who just slack off. What is hilarious is how there are still people who complain that American schools are too difficult.

Though I think American high schools mainly struggle with math and science. Most East Asians would laugh at the math skills of the average American.

"Race nationalism" is just a euphemism for fascism.

no, not really
Racial nationalism is about preserving your race. The fact is that some races are just more fertile than others. A society that is 90% Asian and 10% black will become over 50% black in a couple of generations. Compared to Asians, blacks tend to be more impulsive. This explains why even the poorest of blacks are more likely to have large families than Asians who have six-figure salaries. Thus disproving the "kids are expensive" excuse.

The reality is that the only way to prevent Asians from becoming extinct is to prevent these more fertile non-Asian races from immigrating to Asia.

Keep in mind that I am only talking about Mongoloids when I said "Asian" so obviously I am not talking about Indians, Arabs, Persians, etc.

Since you are British, you should know this fact first hand. Your country is turning into an extension of Arabia, Pakistan, and India. Doesn't it bother you that your Anglo-Saxon Europid heritage is being displaced by an Islamic Middle Eastern one?

[oolong]

Impulse became irrelevant since the day condom was invented.2 billion asians and you are bull$hitting about us becoming extinct.Give me a break.

[AsiaticGlory]

Impulse became irrelevant since the day condom was invented.2 billion asians and you are bull$hitting about us becoming extinct.Give me a break.

Yeah and blacks are too impulsive to even put on a condom. That is a testament to their impulsive behavior. The fact you think average blacks have good self-control means you clearly have never met blacks before.

I am pretty sure the guy raised in America has more experience with blacks than the guy raised in China.

I said Asians would be extinct IF they allowed Africans to immigrate to Asian countries. You should work on your reading skills.

It is obvious that blacks have higher birthrates than Asians.


It doesn't take a mathematical genius to know what would happen if blacks and Asians were to live in the same society.

[oolong]

I cant tell if you are trolling or serious.Unless black having more babies would make asians want to have less babies,ur arguement is invalid.