Important curse words in Vietnamese Options

[asean.asia]

if you erased it, then no.

Did you even read what I posted there originally?

[lel]

Your penis was bitten off by a shark remember?

Did such a penis ever visited your oral cavity?

[tangawizi]

How do u say in Vietnamese:

Men are nothing but a piece of skin attached to the penis????

[Ralf]

Sort of like the penis is the boss and the rest of the man is a mere appendage......


Is there a particular curse or swearing style that is specific to Vietnam and surrounding regions ?
In English a lot of profanity seems to revolve around excrement and sexual functions. In the Italian and Spanish cultures, the cursing often seems to be more about insulting your opponent's family members. eg "your mother is a @!$##!".
Is there a culturally specific style of cursing around Vietnam ?

[odkram]

Sort of like the penis is the boss and the rest of the man is a mere appendage......

HAHHA LOL!!
but anyways.

i don't know about others, but all the swear words i hear usually have

"your mother is a ............"
".........your mother"
"your dad is............."

i dunno.. seems really..... family based....

but not too sure if there's a "style" lol

[Potatosalad]

yo mada is so phat

[yiming2000]

How do u say in Vietnamese:

Men are nothing but a piece of skin attached to the penis????

You say it like this, tanga.

Mày muốn con cặt gì?

[XigonCongchua]

Did such a penis ever visited your oral cavity?

Nope, but I'm sure it's been to yours.

How do u say in Vietnamese:

Men are nothing but a piece of skin attached to the penis????

Hm...Đàn ông chẳng là gì ngoài một miếng da dính cu.

Need me to teach you how to pronounce them?

You say it like this, tanga.

Mày muốn con cặt gì?

You're such a good student. You learn from me so quick.

This post has been edited by XigonCongchua: Nov 3 2010, 11:52 AM

[tangawizi]

Ralf, i know there are quite a number of religious swear words in Spanish... like "hostia" (the host which represents the body of christ)

But by and large, the cuss words often include mothers... i don't know why men have to hate mothers so much as to cuss other people's mothers. That's why I say men are nothing but pieces of skins attached to the penis.

Tx Xigon

Đàn ông chẳng là gì ngoài một miếng da dính cu
It's kinda cool to see alphabets spelled with so many different accents, but i don't think I'll ever remember how to pronounce this sentence to my pals in Hanoi.

By the way, how do u say "Don't f*** with me!!!"


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[XigonCongchua]

Is there a particular curse or swearing style that is specific to Vietnam and surrounding regions ?

In Vietnam most of the curses center around you parents and your ancestral lineage. Dog is a popular motif for curses in Vietnamese. It's so not right because dog is just a good loyal animal.

By the way, how do u say "Don't f*** with me!!!"

Hm...I don't think you can translate that to Vietnamese. Let me try to think of an equivalent phrase to that. Hm...Đừng chọc tao. "Chọc" means to poke or to make fun. The phrase basically means something like don't mess with me.

BTW "ư" sounds like "i" in Mandarin shifu (master). Đừng doesn't sound like English dung.

[Ralf]

@ Tangawizi thanks for your explanation.
From watching Spanish and Italian movies I figured it was that way.
I recently saw a band called The Puta Madre Brothers.
Aussie swearing used to be very English in style, but now it is becoming American.
German profanity from my hometown seems to have an emphasis on pig.

Dog is a popular motif for curses in Vietnamese. It's so not right because dog is just a good loyal animal.

Dog is also used a lot in Indonesian curses, but in that particular culture a dog is traditionally considered to be a creature to be wary of. The Western concept of "dog is a man's best friend" is relatively new to Indonesian people. The students I am hosting from Kalimantan don't want to work with me on my boss's farm because he has many dogs.

[daxas24]

Hm...Đàn ông chẳng là gì ngoài một miếng da dính cu.

WTF
never heard anyone said this

I think da cu is enough. You don't need "dính"
Đàn ông chẳng là gì ngoài một miếng da cu

[XigonCongchua]

'cuz it's English translated to Vietnamese. And no, you can't say da cu. Just think about it. It makes the two sentences completely different. Yours implies that a man is just a piece of skin. Mine implies that a man is just a piece of skin and a penis. Yours implies that penis isn't important to men. Mine implies that penis is the only important part of a man. The difference is there because the word "cu" in your sentence acts as just a "modifier" whereas the word "cu" in my sentence acts as a noun.

This post has been edited by XigonCongchua: Nov 4 2010, 11:27 AM

[daxas24]

Đàn ông chẳng là gì ngoài một miếng da cu
How does this mean
Penis isn't important to men?

I believe, it means men are nothing but the penis skin

The whole word "da cu" is a noun
"da dính cu" is just more descriptive but not necesary

[XigonCongchua]

Yes, you're saying men are nothing but a penis skin. It implies that only the skin is important, since that's what men are. The word "penis" is only there to modify the word skin.

"da dính cu" is "skin attached to penis". That was exactly what tanga said. It's not a unnecessary descriptive, because you present both the skin and the penis as two "nouns" (not one noun and one modifier). Since both words act as nouns, they're given equal consideration and from this point, people can see that the penis is more important than the skin ---> the penis is the dominant one, the skin is just something attached to it ---> hence the meaning "men are nothing without penises"

In your sentence, you put "penis" as a modifier for "skin", so skin is given more consideration than penis. Your sentence focuses on the skin instead of the penis. For example, if you say "animal $hits", your focus is the "$hits", not the animal. The word "animal" is just there to modify the word "$hits".

You have bad grammar skill.

[daxas24]

"a piece of skin attached to the penis"
I believe the skin is what she meant, not the penis. The "attached to the penis" part is there just to describe what type of skin it is. Skin is still the dominant one.

"da dính cu" doesn't really mean "a piece of skin attached to the penis" in Vietnamese. It could be lost in translation. Without the original english sentence, I wouldn't know what you mean by "da dính cu". Maybe there's a better verb than dính in this case. But still da is still the dominant one not cu

When you say $hits of animals, the focus is still $hit.

[tangawizi]

Actually, the original sentence is this :

What do you call the useless bit of skin attached to a penis? A man.

[yiming2000]

ni nia tanga, puki ma.

How's that?

[XigonCongchua]

@daxas: why don't you even try to come with up a better word before criticizing my translation? That's the closest word for this situation. Many sentences in English can't be translated literally to Vietnamese.

Now I'm waiting to see if you can come up with any word better than dính.

When you say $hits of animals, the focus is still $hit.

Replacing the word "attached" with "of" to make your case is not a good idea because "$hits of animal" is just an alternative way to say "animal $hits". Do you think "$hits of animal" is the same as "$hits attached to animal"?
If you say "$hits attached to animal", you're talking about TWO independent things: the $hits AND the animal. They're independent things, it just happens that one is "attached" to another.
If you just say "animal $hits" or "$hits of animal", you're only talking about ONE thing: the $hit.

Actually, the original sentence is this :

What do you call the useless bit of skin attached to a penis? A man.

Miếng da dính cu.

There.

Do you know why? Because the verb "dính" (yin/zing) can convey the image of some "extra", "unwanted" thing being "stuck" into another thing.

For example, "sợi chỉ dính vào bánh" (a string of thread stuck/attached into a cake). In this phrase, "bánh" or "the cake" is viewed as the better object, and the string of thread is just some unwanted thing stuck into a cake.

If you want to clarify the meaning,

"Đàn ông chỉ là một miếng da vô dụng đính vào cu".

This post has been edited by XigonCongchua: Nov 4 2010, 04:23 PM

[daxas24]

watever xigon, that's why I said "da cu" would be more appropriate. It would make more sense than "da dinh cu"
Lost in translation.

Gosh, we've been discussing about the skin of the penis. Abit weird