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Truth about Khmer History
Kdaw_Tmaw
post Nov 15 2011, 02:57 AM
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Be aware that to whomever do not know much about Khmer/Cambodian history, please google it and you will find your answer. There are a few Thai members in here by the name of, sabaisabai, nokhmen, etc, who are going around spewing their own made-up version of Khmer history with the purpose of hatred. What they are claiming are absurd, ridiculous, shameful, and holds no truth or evidence. Usually, I would not waste my time mentioning those trolls, but I feel that I must warn others who are interested in our culture and history to avoid the trolls.
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post Nov 15 2011, 11:51 AM
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I bet they will post their mind of History again in this Thread ^^
just wait....

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post Nov 15 2011, 02:22 PM
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actually those are the only two and you can find them on youtube and yahoo awnser ahaha
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post Nov 15 2011, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE (Suriin1234 @ Nov 15 2011, 02:22 PM) *
actually those are the only two and you can find them on youtube and yahoo awnser ahaha


Shuddup loser, you're the one that's hanging on their nuts talking $hit bout Khmer people all the time.
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post Nov 15 2011, 06:54 PM
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ka doy mai a chkout
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post Nov 15 2011, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (Suriin1234 @ Nov 16 2011, 06:54 AM) *
ka doy mai a chkout

Douj Jeng huve Teub Khmer Chanh Preab Ke!
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post Nov 15 2011, 09:15 PM
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truth? how do you know what you are seeing from google is the truth? you people dont do your own research and just accept anything your told.

If there is no investigation, how will you know if it is the truth you are reading? you only cling to what your told even in the face of evidence that it is not real. You call that truth? lol

You can believe whatever you like. At the end of the day... there is pretty much no evidence which shows Khmers and Kambujas are the same people icon_smile.gif westerners just assume it because you are living on their land.

Don't believe me? do your own research icon_smile.gif see how far back your Khmer identity goes. Where it began. Even the french cannot connect Khmers with Varman kings.

Well done you for accepting the false history as truth icon_smile.gif an assumption based on an assumption of another assumption is considered truth? lol you people are clowns.
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post Nov 15 2011, 10:05 PM
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eh I don't care if we built it or not it's whaterver. in the end most of the world that knows about angkor wat will believe khmer built it so yea.
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post Nov 16 2011, 06:49 AM
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Sabaisabai, you exaggerate and fantasize too much. Khmer have always been the main ruler of SEA ever since Siem came to picture. Now where did Siem come from? Not from Tai and definitely not from Khmer. Siem were a foriegner as depicted on the bas-relief of Angkor Wat. They came from somewhere, but no one and not even the Siem themselves know where they came from. That was the only time they were mention, so it's not clear where the Siem come from. However, since they have served and fought alongside Khmer, that they were given citizenship and a home within the kingdom. So about a century later they rebelled and fought the Khmer Empire when it was at its weakest during the power grab after the death of Jayavarman VII and followed by the devastating decades long drought which crippled the kingdom. That was the only opportunity the Siem took to attack the kingdom. In the process they took back with them many Khmer intellects and royal courts to help them raise a new kingdom. That is why you see many Khmer influence during the rise of Siem. They were emulating the kingdom that they once fought alongside. Now the question is, who, what, and where did Siem first come from?
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post Nov 16 2011, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (Suriin1234 @ Nov 15 2011, 10:05 PM) *
eh I don't care if we built it or not it's whaterver. in the end most of the world that knows about angkor wat will believe khmer built it so yea.


see how fu-king annoying this guy is...he even has his doubts as to who built it. What a loser.

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post Nov 16 2011, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (Kdaw_Tmaw @ Nov 16 2011, 06:49 AM) *
Sabaisabai, you exaggerate and fantasize too much. Khmer have always been the main ruler of SEA ever since Siem came to picture. Now where did Siem come from? Not from Tai and definitely not from Khmer. Siem were a foriegner as depicted on the bas-relief of Angkor Wat. They came from somewhere, but no one and not even the Siem themselves know where they came from. That was the only time they were mention, so it's not clear where the Siem come from. However, since they have served and fought alongside Khmer, that they were given citizenship and a home within the kingdom. So about a century later they rebelled and fought the Khmer Empire when it was at its weakest during the power grab after the death of Jayavarman VII and followed by the devastating decades long drought which crippled the kingdom. That was the only opportunity the Siem took to attack the kingdom. In the process they took back with them many Khmer intellects and royal courts to help them raise a new kingdom. That is why you see many Khmer influence during the rise of Siem. They were emulating the kingdom that they once fought alongside. Now the question is, who, what, and where did Siem first come from?


Dude you're way too generous when you describe Siem by saying they fought alongside Khmer. In the bas-relief it shows the Siamese soldiers being used as human shields and carrying $hitty weapons indicating they were citizen of the lower caliber. Most likely they were Tai or slaves that were bought through trades with India. The word "Siem" itself is a derogatory term to mean thief/slave/dark, why would we chose to call them "siem" if they were seen as our equal?

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post Nov 16 2011, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE (DizneyLandGambler @ Nov 16 2011, 06:18 PM) *
see how fu-king annoying this guy is...he even has his doubts as to who built it. What a loser.


I have to give Surin1234 some credit of being more mature than you Khmer trolls. He has a doubt because Khmer members didn't have any satisfied proof against Thais' observation. Only Khmer trolls have in their heads, is just whining like a b!tch, screaming lie lie lie all the time. embarassedlaugh.gif
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post Nov 16 2011, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE (LoveIsAllAround @ Nov 16 2011, 11:45 PM) *
I have to give Surin1234 some credit of being more mature than you Khmer trolls. He has a doubt because Khmer members didn't have any satisfied proof against Thais' observation. Only Khmer trolls have in their heads, is just whining like a b!tch, screaming lie lie lie all the time. embarassedlaugh.gif


how are they trolls?
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post Nov 17 2011, 08:51 AM
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I was right !
I know that someone start the whole fights again.
I don't blame khmer or thai but it already happend again.

You guys always still fighting and claiming.
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post Nov 17 2011, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE (DizneyLandGambler @ Nov 16 2011, 02:24 PM) *
Dude you're way too generous when you describe Siem by saying they fought alongside Khmer. In the bas-relief it shows the Siamese soldiers being used as human shields and carrying $hitty weapons indicating they were citizen of the lower caliber. Most likely they were Tai or slaves that were bought through trades with India. The word "Siem" itself is a derogatory term to mean thief/slave/dark, why would we chose to call them "siem" if they were seen as our equal?

It maybe true that they were of lower caliber and fought as human shields, but Khmer Kings are not cruel to those that serve the empire well. That is why they were left alone to live out there lives in the Khmer Empire. Also, I don't think the word Siem was used to described them in a derogatory manner. It probably meant dark or some other meaning to it, but still not derogatory; because they used the same name that we gave them and they changed it to Siam instead. Now obviously, we know that some Lao members in here will deny any connection to Siem. So just where did they come from?
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post Nov 17 2011, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (Kdaw_Tmaw @ Nov 17 2011, 08:57 AM) *
It maybe true that they were of lower caliber and fought as human shields, but Khmer Kings are not cruel to those that serve the empire well. That is why they were left alone to live out there lives in the Khmer Empire. Also, I don't think the word Siem was used to described them in a derogatory manner. It probably meant dark or some other meaning to it, but still not derogatory; because they used the same name that we gave them and they changed it to Siam instead. Now obviously, we know that some Lao members in here will deny any connection to Siem. So just where did they come from?



According to sabai they are eastern mons and khmers were the hill tribes of wildmen that zhou daguan described.

One thing I notice about those against subscribed khmer history. Is they have an infatuation with "slaves" I believe that when these members look at contemporary Srok Khmer. They can not grasp the contrast between a 4th world country and a once great empire. How can these filthy, dark people once ruled over SEA? I was unaware of siem and khamen derogatory implications. Though all new theory pertaining to Khmers have painted us as slaves.

I have no problem being a slave. As I mentioned - I'm a modern day slaves I work for my masters to pay my mortgage, loans and bills. But, it seems some revisionist are hellbent on providing Khmers as slaves. I enjoy researching about SEA culture. If we were slaves then we were slaves. But it is not my intent to find that out during research. My intent is to research SEA with an open mind. You can not say that most trolls are doing that. I don't think Sabai is a troll, though I believe is a little hung up on the slave thingy.

here's a stupid icon you faggots love to post after every sentences beerchug.gif

faggots die

and quit being facetious
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post Nov 17 2011, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE (Weareallone @ Nov 18 2011, 07:31 AM) *
According to sabai they are eastern mons and khmers were the hill tribes of wildmen that zhou daguan described.

One thing I notice about those against subscribed khmer history. Is they have an infatuation with "slaves" I believe that when these members look at contemporary Srok Khmer. They can not grasp the contrast between a 4th world country and a once great empire. How can these filthy, dark people once ruled over SEA? I was unaware of siem and khamen derogatory implications. Though all new theory pertaining to Khmers have painted us as slaves.

I have no problem being a slave. As I mentioned - I'm a modern day slaves I work for my masters to pay my mortgage, loans and bills. But, it seems some revisionist are hellbent on providing Khmers as slaves. I enjoy researching about SEA culture. If we were slaves then we were slaves. But it is not my intent to find that out during research. My intent is to research SEA with an open mind. You can not say that most trolls are doing that. I don't think Sabai is a troll, though I believe is a little hung up on the slave thingy.

here's a stupid icon you faggots love to post after every sentences beerchug.gif

faggots die

and quit being facetious


The meaning of word Slave in Cambodia ancient time is still existed in now a day. the idea of Slave in Cambodia is difference from the idea of slave from western ans eastern. The Thai they are confusing. Because they don't own this civilization. They just one who lend it from Khmer.
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QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Nov 17 2011, 09:44 PM) *
The meaning of word Slave in Cambodia ancient time is still existed in now a day. the idea of Slave in Cambodia is difference from the idea of slave from western ans eastern. The Thai they are confusing. Because they don't own this civilization. They just one who lend it from Khmer.



Khmerboi can you tell me more about that inscription in your sig. Where did you find it - links?

But Khmer boy - I think both khmer and Thai are nationalistic and guilty of accusations. Both sides need to relax and work for the betterment of a brighter future. South East Asia is a beautiful region and I hope it will prosper once again. I feel bad for the people who suffer from $hitty governments and lack of socioeconomic middle class. Not to mentioned corrupted safety net programs.

Also, i'm tired of all this who plagiarized whom? Be human for once and not a person bound by ethnicity of nationality. We Are All One.



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QUOTE (Weareallone @ Nov 18 2011, 10:10 AM) *
Khmerboi can you tell me more about that inscription in your sig. Where did you find it - links?

But Khmer boy - I think both khmer and Thai are nationalistic and guilty of accusations. Both sides need to relax and work for the betterment of a brighter future. South East Asia is a beautiful region and I hope it will prosper once again. I feel bad for the people who suffer from $hitty governments and lack of socioeconomic middle class. Not to mentioned corrupted safety net programs.

Also, i'm tired of all this who plagiarized whom? Be human for once and not a person bound by ethnicity of nationality. We Are All One.


The inscription in my sigh read as Khmer was written down during before the Angkor period. Sorry now I don't have time much to tell you more about this as I am using my iPad with my tidy time. I have no problem if Thai and Khmer work together digging for the truth. I am happy to work with any of Thai man. As I am aware of some of Thai professor have already work with Cambodian in Cambodia.. And those only who know the truth. Thai people should happy what they have. And live happily with Khmer with respect not make up the story just to make your self look good.
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QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Dec 5 2011, 03:42 AM) *
The inscription in my sigh read as Khmer was written down during before the Angkor period. Sorry now I don't have time much to tell you more about this as I am using my iPad with my tidy time. I have no problem if Thai and Khmer work together digging for the truth. I am happy to work with any of Thai man. As I am aware of some of Thai professor have already work with Cambodian in Cambodia.. And those only who know the truth. Thai people should happy what they have. And live happily with Khmer with respect not make up the story just to make your self look good.



can you give me a link to read about the inscription. or provide more info if you may
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