Why Indonesia is getting richer and wealthier faster?? |
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Why Indonesia is getting richer and wealthier faster?? |
  Jul 4 2008, 07:12 AM
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AF Fan  Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 17-January 08  |
I looked up on Indonesia's gdp both nominal and ppp and found out that Indonesian economy was actually moving faster than some asean members.
In '98 indonesian gdp per capita was only around US600 but the gdp per capita on 2008 surprisingly had reached US 2,142 which is more than tripled compare to ten years ago. really surprising me coz it's not that easy to bring up gdp percapita of a nation with 240 million population in short period of time. god bless indonesia!!  INDONESIA Recent economic indicators: 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 GDP (US$bn) (current prices): 234.8 257.0 285.9 364.4 432.9 488.1 GDP PPP (US$bn) ©: 603.2 650.2 705.2 767.5 837.8 906.7 GDP per capita (US$): 1,100 1,188 1,304 1,641 1,925 2,142 GDP per capita PPP (US$) ©: 2,825 3,005 3,217 3,456 3,725 3,979 Real GDP growth (% change YOY): 4.8 5.0 5.7 5.5 6.3 6.1 source: http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/fs/indo.pdf This post has been edited by miguelpinoy: Jul 4 2008, 07:20 AM |
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Jul 4 2008, 07:37 AM
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AF Pro  Group: Members Posts: 1,211 Joined: 18-November 07 From: Singapore |
You have answered your own qn. God has blessed indonesia
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Jul 4 2008, 09:12 AM
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AF Guru  Group: Members Posts: 3,791 Joined: 20-October 07 |
^siapa God-nya ??? Kita bukan America where they theoretically have one God. We got heaps of them.
Maybe we should just say Bless Indonesia ? Sry for the off topic. @Miguelpinoy Thx for the info, I didn't even know it as well. |
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Jul 4 2008, 10:11 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,211 Joined: 18-November 07 From: Singapore |
^^ you are really not aware of the development of indonesia. Btw in the latest Global Asia Magazine the net worth of indonesia Top 40 wealthiest are US$60 billions while Malaysia is US $ 45 billions and singapore only around 20-23 billions. Hence, it puts indonesia as the first in South east asia while malaysia second and singapore third. The richest in indonesia is Aburizal Bakrie with wealth up to US $9.1 billions. He is also the richest in South east asia.
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Jul 4 2008, 09:52 PM
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AF Elite  Group: Members Posts: 5,662 Joined: 6-October 06 From: Zamrud Khatulistiwa |
Hey, as an Indonesian we are obliged to believe in one God only. "Ketuhanan Yang Maha Esa", remember?
 Anyway, Indonesia and the Philippines are at the same ground, we are less developed compared to Singapore, Malaysia, or Thailand, but we are more advanced than Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam and Myanmar. 
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Jul 5 2008, 09:25 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,791 Joined: 20-October 07 |
^One God...The Muslim God ??
For instance skyisdalimit a Buddhist living in Sumatra should believe in the Muslim God, Allah because there is only one God ? What I'm trying to say is that there are lots of Gods in Indonesia since we're culturally diverse, and yes we can believe all of them, we can believe someone's else God and denounce ours or we can believe our own God. I know this is small matter but it just came through my mind that some people might be offended (not me) with phrase. Hey not all of us are tolerant and understanding. |
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Jul 5 2008, 09:46 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,258 Joined: 25-December 07 |
I thought the Buddhist system is based on belief in a Supreme State (of Mind), rather than belief in a Supreme Being.
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Jul 5 2008, 10:38 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,791 Joined: 20-October 07 |
^fine Hindu then.....
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Jul 5 2008, 11:16 PM
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AF Addict  Group: Members Posts: 566 Joined: 29-July 04 |
QUOTE(DutchEastIndiesMan @ Jul 5 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]3792886[/snapback] ^One God...The Muslim God ?? For instance skyisdalimit a Buddhist living in Sumatra should believe in the Muslim God, Allah because there is only one God ? What I'm trying to say is that there are lots of Gods in Indonesia since we're culturally diverse, and yes we can believe all of them, we can believe someone's else God and denounce ours or we can believe our own God. I know this is small matter but it just came through my mind that some people might be offended (not me) with phrase. Hey not all of us are tolerant and understanding. Any God or god or goddess or gods..not necessarily of a particular religion thus the choice of words, since our republic is def not an Islamic theocracy. Remember even the traditional believers and/or Spiritualist are very much acknowledged in Indonesia under the banner 'Kepercayaan Kepada Tuhan YME'. |
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Jul 6 2008, 02:18 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,211 Joined: 18-November 07 From: Singapore |
QUOTE(DutchEastIndiesMan @ Jul 5 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]3792953[/snapback] ^fine Hindu then..... lol. |
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Jul 6 2008, 09:53 PM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 5,662 Joined: 6-October 06 From: Zamrud Khatulistiwa |
Not the Muslim God! To each religion, their own God lah. For God' sake, dutchy! Don't you even know your own country?
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Jul 6 2008, 10:24 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,180 Joined: 19-June 05 From: SoCal |
QUOTE(Bhaskara @ Jul 6 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]3795895[/snapback] Not the Muslim God! To each religion, their own God lah. For God' sake, dutchy! Don't you even know your own country? This is the best way to put it |
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Jul 7 2008, 01:20 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,791 Joined: 20-October 07 |
QUOTE(Bhaskara @ Jul 7 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]3795895[/snapback] Not the Muslim God! To each religion, their own God lah. For God' sake, dutchy! Don't you even know your own country? ok22 lol...I get it now, I was being really random.... Well I need to learn more about the principles of our country. Ok here....I got a question, Indonesia only recognize 5 religion, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Catholicism and Protestantism (?). Would people who believe other faiths (Shinto, Confucianism etc) find it hard to make ID, driver's license etc cause they don't believe in the 5 recognized religion ?? shouldn't we recognize all beliefs ?  Sry for the off topic... |
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Jul 7 2008, 01:43 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,861 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Montreal |
u guys being out of topic
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Jul 7 2008, 04:00 AM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 5,662 Joined: 6-October 06 From: Zamrud Khatulistiwa |
QUOTE(DutchEastIndiesMan @ Jul 7 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]3796507[/snapback] ok22 lol...I get it now, I was being really random.... Well I need to learn more about the principles of our country. Ok here....I got a question, Indonesia only recognize 5 religion, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Catholicism and Protestantism (?). Would people who believe other faiths (Shinto, Confucianism etc) find it hard to make ID, driver's license etc cause they don't believe in the 5 recognized religion ?? shouldn't we recognize all beliefs ? Sry for the off topic... This is totally OT FYI, Confucianism is recognized in Indonesia and perceived as a "religion". Other faiths, as long as they believe in one supreme God would fall in "Kepercayaan Terhadap Tuhan Yang Maha Esa" category CMIIW. But I agree with you. It's time for us to embrace a wider point of view on religiosity. Of course we still have to exclude dangerous sects This post has been edited by Bhaskara: Jul 7 2008, 04:02 AM |
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Jul 7 2008, 07:46 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,211 Joined: 18-November 07 From: Singapore |
^^ now we are talking about GOD. Btw dutchie, i thought you always refrain yourself from talking about God. If i am not wrong you are doubting His existence. lololol. FYI, we are a secular nation. We recognize the 5 major religions. However, the question is why on earth being a muslim is one of the criterias that any presidential or ministers candidates have to fulfil? In other words, you can't be the president or the ministers if you are non-muslims. why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?
this is a religist* policy. Religist* is the act of discrimination against certain group of people due to the faiths that they believe. Being a hypocrite is not my nature, but it's surely one of my strategies. All is fair in love and war. |
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Jul 7 2008, 09:20 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,013 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Javadvipa Jaya |
You guys stray too far from original subject of this thread...
Now lets leave God alone shall we...? God already have His hands full with all the problems... Back to the topic: I didn't realize that our GDP rose quite fast during these years..... Are we really growing that rich in such a fast pace...?  Maybe because I'm still witnessed lot of poverty here in urban areas around Jakarta... But when I visited Bandung malls like Ciwalk and Paris Van Java.... hmm..., totaly hedonist, wealthy and rich... The notions of Indonesian youth swarming luxurious upperscales malls is really...., awesome and gaving the picture of bright future of wealthy Indonesians, but also disturbing for me at the same time.... As if Indonesian tends to be more "materialized" and less "social aware" of suffering around them...
This post has been edited by Majapahitans: Jul 7 2008, 09:22 AM |
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Jul 9 2008, 11:17 AM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 784 Joined: 15-May 06 From: Malaysia |
QUOTE(skyisdalimit @ Jul 7 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]3796998[/snapback] However, the question is why on earth being a muslim is one of the criterias that any presidential or ministers candidates have to fulfil? In other words, you can't be the president or the ministers if you are non-muslims. why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why? did you just forget to check your fact, or is this a deliberate flaming? @ others: I know I'm OOT, but I don't really have anything to say yet abt the thread's topic oh, except thanks for the thread starter for highlighting those things. I wouldn't have noticed.
This post has been edited by jokotarub: Jul 9 2008, 11:23 AM |
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Jul 10 2008, 03:02 AM
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AF Fiend  Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 27-August 07 |
QUOTE(jokotarub @ Jul 9 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]3800760[/snapback] did you just forget to check your fact, or is this a deliberate flaming? Keknya cuma krn ignorant aja, tapi udah pengen banget ngomong alias "overwhelmed". Trus cari kambing ijo. Biasa Bro, banyak yg cuma bisa ngomong tapi pada males ngecek langsung di sumber. "Katanya", "kata si Anu", "kata Om gue", tapi ngga pernah baca sumber aselinya. Orang2 begini yg bikin Indo ngga maju2. |
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Jul 10 2008, 03:25 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,211 Joined: 18-November 07 From: Singapore |
^^ no, I learned that when i was in the school. i swear man. Kecuali lah kalo guru gw salah. ato guru gw make up such criterias.
This post has been edited by skyisdalimit: Jul 10 2008, 03:26 AM |
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