Becuz of our laziness attitude ,the Thai economic will fall behind Vie, No more Sabai Sabai get your @$$ up and work Options

[AEROFORCE1]

Well lets intoduced new Thai word to you Sabai Sabai which mean Easy Easy , or "take it easy" this is the attitude that I not like that much. Sabai Sabai attitude made Thai people cant compete in the world class. Thesedays is the world is head to the "Knowledge Based Society" but many Thai people still dont do any things and happy with the kind of believe

The fish is available in the canal or river ในน้ำมีปลา
The rice is available in the rice field ในนามีข้าว
The money is available before election ก่อนในเข้าคูหาเลือกตั้งได้เงิน
The whore house are also available every where ซ่องมีอยู่ทุกที่แม้ตรงข้าม รร อนุบาล
And the best part is We never been colonized (,where as we already lost economic warfare in 1997)

After says all these not need to do any things all the rest is prepare the bed jump on it then sleep.....
But before that lets listen to daddy fairy tale

The Vietnam challenge: Bye-bye sabai-sabai
Bangkok Post - Two weeks ago, I wrote a column called "Facing the new challenge of Vietnam". The day after, the Vietnam News called me to ask permission to reprint. I was pleased to allow the newspaper to share my perspective for the Vietnamese. ...

On the same day, I got two voicemails from a Thai reader. He asked me where he could buy the book Blue Ocean Strategy. I had mentioned in the same column that the book could help Thai entrepreneurs survive in the competitive world market. I did not call back, since I thought it was too much spoonfeeding if I have to tell that person where the book could be purchased.

Two days after that, I got an e-mail from one of my workshop participants who is the head of human resources, telling me that she would distribute the column to other HR executives in Vietnam.

A week after the column appeared in the Bangkok Post, I had an executive coaching session with a young Thai executive who manages a couple of hundred IT engineers. I shared with him my positive impression from my Vietnam experience. I asked him about his knowledge of Vietnam.

"I went there a few months ago. I like to explore this country. To my amazing surprise, I think Vietnam's information technology (IT) business will be catching up with Thailand within two years."

"What makes you say that?"

He replied: "I think that for technical skills and knowledge, IT engineers from Thailand and Vietnam are about the same. But if we compare productivity, my rough estimate is that a Vietnamese engineer would be much better - four or five times more than Thais."

"Why?"

"First, Vietnamese salaries are almost half what Thais are paid. Second, on average, a Thai engineer works about 30 hours per week, while a Vietnamese engineer works 60 hours per week. They work six days a week and roughly 10 hours a day.

"In addition, our engineers have some other disadvantages. Number one is we are not disciplined. Number two, the attitude toward work is too demanding, since the IT market in Thailand is short of manpower. Staff turnover is high. Consequently, they are very demanding for benefits and compensation. Finally, our fighting attitude is not good. We want a high salary and we don't want to solve problems. Instead, we look at the technical problems as the challenges; we perceive them as an obstacle to our sabai (comfort)."

After a few seconds of silence, I said: "I think it's not too late. It's just a matter of promoting awareness of how critical discipline is."

I don't want to say this because many Thais might think that I am insulting my own country, but it's a fact of life. The lack of discipline seems to be a cause for several major problems in Thailand.

Without good discipline, we could not make any project run smoothly. I observe in most events in Thailand, the deadline is always compromised.

Our harmonising culture is good in hospitality industries, when we have to deal with clients or provide hospitality services. This is a strength for Thais.

Unfortunately, when we compromise a deadline, there are several consequences after that. I think the cost incurred from compromising deadlines would have a huge financial impact on both government and corporate expenses.

We should not compromise so much by saying mai pen rai (it doesn't matter). It's better to have good project-management skills and stop being so kreng jai when dealing with undisciplined people.

On the other hand, it is imperative for teachers and parents to really educate our children. We must tell them life is about solving problems, fighting with adversity and being persistent. Otherwise, we will have a new generation which is not only weak, but also comes to the workplace with a demanding attitude. They'll say: "How much can you pay me?", instead of asking questions like: "How much I can contribute? How could I learn from solving difficult problems here? And how will I add value to the organisation?".

Today is Christmas and we are approaching the new year. Let's work harder to make the coming year more productive.

As Thomas Friedman, the New York Times columnist and Pulitzer Prize winning author of The World is Flat, teased Americans in his Times column:

"When I was growing up, my parents used to say to me: 'Finish your dinner - people in China are starving.' I, by contrast, find myself wanting to say to my daughters: 'Finish your homework - people in China and India are starving for your job."'

I would say to Thai children: "If you love sabai sabai, fun and don't learn very hard, soon people in Vietnam will take over all your work. You will never be sabai sabai again.

This post has been edited by AEROFORCE1: Mar 19 2008, 11:00 AM

[HariNakornNgernY...]

First of all i agree, we shouldnt have this Sabai Sabai attitude, it will not change us or motivate us more then we are, we´ll be just happy and thats enough.
We should not think too much about how our surrounding countries are doing, isnt it beter by trying harder and better for our own country without thinking upon others.

I wonder if the goverment make couraging campaigns, will that work?

This post has been edited by HariNakornNgernYang: Mar 19 2008, 10:28 AM

[ailurophile]

sabai sabai in khmer means fun fun lol.

I thought Thailand had the most overworked people in the world so no sabai sabai for them.

[vielong]

thai lazy dont think soo..

maybe needs a little bit of political stability

assurance vie

[PingLing]

Woah. Very old topic. but I have to agree AEROFORCE. I am not one of these Thais with sabai-sabai attitude. I want to help Thailand to be in a better light. Thailand need hardworking people. We have to much of those whores who got free education but didn't see that as a chance for more oppurtunities in life. I wouldn't be satisfied with food, a home and a rice field.

[Buddhalove]

It's not true the main problem lays on the central government which dominated by jek and sukdeena central thai, they use most of the tax money to build bangkock while other parts get far less. This type of management creates uneven development and distribution. Bangkock gets new, roads, airports, train links, job creation quiet often while many parts have to wait for years to get a decent one. This is one of reasons why people move there.

Eventually Vietnam with catch up with Thailand, but not anytime soon. That is normal, when you have reached the top, then there is no where to go after that. You kind of wait for other climbers to reach the top. Just for your information Thailand has not reached the top yet, it's a long way to go.

Thailand population growth is stabilizing, number of educated people are increasing, now time to expand those wealth and convenience to the less of the kingdom.

Vietnam is over populated with 86 million living in 3/5 the size of thailand and not showing sign to slowdown. More mouth to be feed and can not create enough jobs for the next generations.

[Arroi]

vietnam will definitely surpass thailand, thai are lazy , viet r hard working and smart

[Buddhalove]

First thing thailand can do is removing half of jek thai from bangkock and spread around. So the government won't have sufficient argument to pour money into bangkock.

This post has been edited by Buddhalove: Jun 16 2009, 04:18 PM

[mikeandsuzi]

Thailand has a charm to it and joy of living that other countries do not have. Why would you want to change? Why be like America where it is all work, work, work and all greed, greed, greed. No, be grateful Thailand is the way it is. There is no good reason to be more like America or Vietnam or China or any other country. Thailand is pretty nice the way it is and I love the attitude of the Thai people - money, greed and material things are not everything after all.

[benja]

I work in the IT industry and have certification in Linux, IBM AIX, and Tivoli Storage Manager. I have to speak out on behalf of the IT staff. IT is not the same as finance, accounting, management, marketing, or economics where your skills can transfer from company to company easily and everyone uses the same thing. You can't just go to learn IT and know everything in the IT field. IT is a very wide field. Here are some of the IT fields:

O/S
Unix (AIX, HPUX, Solaris, Tru74, SCO, BSD)
Linux (Redhat, Suse, CentOS, Ubuntu, Debian, Slackware, Oracle Linux, Novell Linux, ...)
Windows Server (2000, 2003, 2008)
Windows Desktop (XP, Vista, 7)
Mainframe (IBM, Unisys)
OS/400
Mac OS
Tandem


Network
Cisco
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PBX
VoIP
Voice/Data Conferencing


Database
MS SQL
Oracle
IBM DB2 UDB
Informix
MySQL


SAN
NetApp
EMC
IBM
Hitachi
McData
Brocade
datadomain

Backup/Recovery
IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
IBM Tape Library
EMC Avamar
EMC Networker
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Veritas Netbackup
Commvault Galaxy
Arcserve
StorageTek Tape Library
HP

Web
Apache
IBM HTTPD
Microsoft IIS
CSS
Flash
Dreamweaver
HTML 5
XML
Drupal
Joomla
Ruby on Rails
Frontpage

Application Server
IBM Websphere
BEA Weblogic
Tomcat
ColdFusion


Program/Scripts
Perl
TCL/TK
Rexx
Korn
Visual Basic
C
C++
Java/Script
PHP

Mail
MS Exchange
IBM Lotus Notes
Sendmail
Mail Filtering

Security
Firewall
Intrustion Detection

Application
PeopleSoft
SAP
Lawson
Hyperion
Citrix
VMware
Logical Partitioning
High Availability
Anti Virus
Software Deployment (TSD, SMS, NIM)
Scheduling (TWS, Control M, Cron, AT)
DNS
NIS
LDAP
DHCP
Wins
MQSeries


There are so many more I didn't mention but you get the idea. Each one of those takes a long time to master, so any manager think IT is some sort of easy field that can be compared to other fields, they are out of their minds, especially paying people 15k baht a month is pathetic. Why the hell would people put themselves through hell to get a pittance? It makes no sense. I'm so sick of managers who have such a big vision but no budget to match.

This post has been edited by benja: Dec 28 2010, 12:49 PM

[SabaiSabai]

lol why get rid of me?!?!?!? lol jk

anyways.

The Thai attitude of sabai sabai is perfect for olden times when people were not greedy and did not want more more more. Modern culture is all about consumerism and greed.

As a Buddhist you should be happy with what you got. Need only what you need. Cut out the greed and lead a happy life. The origins of the "lazy" attitude.

Being westernised and want to be like the west has made Thai people want more and become more materialistic. Shame really since being happy with what you have is a good concept.

I say bring back the sabai sabai attitude. and less of the greed

[Tiger74]

First thing thailand can do is removing half of jek thai from bangkock and spread around. So the government won't have sufficient argument to pour money into bangkock.

Somdej Yaa, the Kings mother, is half Chinese so the King is 25% Chinese. Should we remove the King from Krungthep Mahanakhon also? BTW, the city name is "Krungthep Mahanakhon Bovorn Ratanakosin Mahintharayutthaya Mahadilokpop Noparatratchathani Burirom Udomratchanivet Mahasathan Amornpiman Avatarnsathit Sakkathattiyavisnukarmprasit", not Bangkok. Calling Krungthep Bangkok is like calling New York City Queens or Bronx.

This post has been edited by Tiger74: Jan 2 2011, 11:58 AM

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