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archaeologist
post Sep 9 2009, 03:15 PM
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...NETs with its own english speaking people in the classrooms?

i have become an advocate of the affirmative on this topic. i feel that as the years have progressed, korean english speakers have improved immensely and that it is time for korea to show confidence in its people and the program it has invested so much money.

i would like to see more and more english speaking koreans placed in the classroom with the goal of replacing 90% of the NETs in 5 years. They have studied hard over the years and now all they lack is the confidence in themselves and their ability.

your thoughts...?

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post Sep 9 2009, 03:20 PM
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What the hell is NET?
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post Sep 9 2009, 09:16 PM
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NET = Native English Teacher
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post Sep 10 2009, 02:40 AM
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OH, native English teacher.. I was wondering what NET stood for.
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post Sep 10 2009, 05:02 PM
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any real thoughts?
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post Sep 10 2009, 06:47 PM
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I vote you give up your job and leave Korea first. Set a good example. Be gone.
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post Sep 10 2009, 10:11 PM
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vote you give up your job and leave Korea first. Set a good example. Be gone


it is sad that unintelligent people have to ruin the threads of others. how immature the above quoted poster is and how childish
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post Sep 11 2009, 07:36 AM
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I don't think it's necessary. I don't think there's enough supply of Korean American English teachers to satisfy the demand. I prefer Korea to start hiring native English teachers from third world countries, but I understand accent can be a problem.

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post Sep 11 2009, 08:29 AM
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I somehow knew that your topic will offend a lot of people here because they are NET LOL
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post Sep 11 2009, 05:05 PM
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who cares if they get offended, it is a viabletopic andone that needs to be discussed as many NEts are not doing their jobs or could care less about teaching.

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I don't think it's necessary. I don't think there's enough supply of Korean American English teachers to satisfy the demand.


don'tneed them to be speaking 'american' english. that is the worst and laziest of all versions. i advocate british english because it is the best.

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I prefer Korea to start hiring native English teachers from third world countries, but I understand accent can be a problem.


then they wouldn't be native english teachers. it isn't just the accent but they do not grasp all of the nuances of the language.

over the years i have seen a marked improvement in the english ability of korean students and koreans need to start giving their people confidence and inserting them into the classroom. one reason i say this is because a couple months ago, i had the dis-pleasure of encountering an american at an open class. not only was he uneducated, but he was rude, ignorant and could not speak very well. i wanted to go up to his korean co-teacher and apologize to her for receiving such an uncouth unqualified person. she was embarrassed by all the things he did in public and so was i.

a limited example, i know, but there are more out there just like that person and it is a dis-service to students to have such an example teaching. korean english teachers cando a fa better job.
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post Sep 11 2009, 05:28 PM
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don'tneed them to be speaking 'american' english. that is the worst and laziest of all versions. i advocate british english because it is the best.



then they wouldn't be native english teachers. it isn't just the accent but they do not grasp all of the nuances of the language.

over the years i have seen a marked improvement in the english ability of korean students and koreans need to start giving their people confidence and inserting them into the classroom. one reason i say this is because a couple months ago, i had the dis-pleasure of encountering an american at an open class. not only was he uneducated, but he was rude, ignorant and could not speak very well. i wanted to go up to his korean co-teacher and apologize to her for receiving such an uncouth unqualified person. she was embarrassed by all the things he did in public and so was i.

a limited example, i know, but there are more out there just like that person and it is a dis-service to students to have such an example teaching. korean english teachers cando a fa better job.


Then that's a problem with quality control, not the policy itself of hiring native English teachers. There are only two million Korean Americans, I find it doubtful that's enough of a supply base to satisfy the demands.
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post Sep 14 2009, 12:02 AM
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archie advocates British English, hilarious. You're a Canuck with no credentials to teach British English you twit. And my other point was that if you're so eager to get NET's out of Korea, you should be first. It's hypocritical to suggest to others something you wouldn't do yourself, so, be gone.
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post Sep 14 2009, 04:50 PM
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i do not recall the OP, the title or the purpose of this thread included bashing the person who started it. obviously, ty-rex has a real problem.

it is also clear that people cannot think, discuss or participate in a serious discussion
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post Sep 14 2009, 10:04 PM
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Just asking you to practice what you preach, hypocrite. I think I can get a pool started to get you out of Korea, just let me know when your bags are packed.
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post Sep 17 2009, 02:03 PM
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Interesting idea opting for the Queen's English over American English.

(FYI, I began with British English and spoke it for several years before learning American, so I have a rather solid basis for comparison of the two dialects.)

Considering the premise that most Koreans learn English for business reasons and that this is why the SK government promotes educating its people in that language, why would you not choose the dialect which is the source of the majority of commercial, technical, scientific and intellectual terminology. British industry is not the leader in the evolution of English linguistics. That is overwhelmingly the purvue of American English. Therefore to even consider adoption of the Brit patois would be detrimental to SK, both culturally and economically.

Hope my verbiage was not to Amercanized for you, archy.

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post Sep 17 2009, 05:09 PM
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Therefore to even consider adoption of the Brit patois would be detrimental to SK, both culturally and economically.


that is just crap. learning the english language the proper way is in noway detrimental to a country's economics or culture. more people speak british english than american. as i tell my students, the american version is the laziest, easiest, most corrupt version out there and that ha sbeen proven true via Paul Johnson's book, 'A History of the American People' as he quotes the complaints from Noah Webster and another english language reformer.

Their work went unheeded as the american people do not take pride in their language but seek to ruin it through the idea of doing it the way they want, which is wrong. there are rules for a reaon and rules are not meant to be broken.

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post Sep 17 2009, 07:12 PM
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Noah Webster? Jackass, join the 21st century. American English is what is clamored for all around the world. More countries may have a history of language based on British English but the fact is even the Brits are trying to speak American these days. Dummy.
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post Sep 18 2009, 01:55 AM
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Can't see how the british or american english argument is relevant.


Korean English teachers and Native english teachers have their own cliche in the market.
People who want to learn conversation and "american expressions" opt for native teachers.
Those who are preparing for college exams and other language exams like TOEIC and TOEFL opt for the Koreans, since they are taught in the perspective of a foreigner learning a new language.
The market's big enough and the demand is there, so I don't see a problem with the current arrangement.
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post Sep 18 2009, 02:57 PM
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Can't see how the british or american english argument is relevant.


goes to quality and mastery of the language, it is very relevent.

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Noah Webster? Jackass, join the 21st century. American English is what is clamored for all around the world. More countries may have a history of language based on British English but the fact is even the Brits are trying to speak American these days. Dummy


obviously some people do not learn from history andif the british are trying to learn american english then i am not the one who is a dummy (american english is not clamored for around the world}
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post Sep 18 2009, 03:00 PM
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p.s. it seems that the only way tyrex can discuss is by being abusive, sad.
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