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Are Chinese Not Liking Mongolians?, Please answer :)
RheeSan21
post Dec 17 2011, 01:22 PM
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Allright, well I am not born from Mongolia, I am from Russia, but my family is Oirat people, which is desendants from Mongolians and Genghis Khan. I am always consider myself to be an Asian, because we does not have very good relation with white people in Europe. But what i am wondering, maybe some Chinese people does not have a very good relation with Mongolia, and if I am visiting to China maybe they will take aggressive action towards me?

I would very much like to visit many Asian countries, but I am wanting to be careful that I do not go to a place where they will not accept me.

Can anyone Chinese please provide answer for my question? Thank you icon_smile.gif
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post Dec 17 2011, 01:25 PM
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It would be more dangerous for a Chinese to go to Mongolia than vice-versa.
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post Dec 17 2011, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE (RheeSan21 @ Dec 17 2011, 01:22 PM) *
Allright, well I am not born from Mongolia, I am from Russia, but my family is Oirat people, which is desendants from Mongolians and Genghis Khan. I am always consider myself to be an Asian, because we does not have very good relation with white people in Europe. But what i am wondering, maybe some Chinese people does not have a very good relation with Mongolia, and if I am visiting to China maybe they will take aggressive action towards me?

I would very much like to visit many Asian countries, but I am wanting to be careful that I do not go to a place where they will not accept me.

Can anyone Chinese please provide answer for my question? Thank you icon_smile.gif

it's the other way around actually, although many of us don't understand it. maybe too many nationalist trolls online make ppl think we are all like that, or many bad people went to mongolia that brought bad images of us, who knows.
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post Dec 17 2011, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE (ElapsePride @ Dec 18 2011, 01:33 AM) *
it's the other way around actually, although many of us don't understand it. maybe too many nationalist trolls online make ppl think we are all like that, or many bad people went to mongolia that brought bad images of us, who knows.


Well, mostly I am just hearing stories from some Mongolian friends. You see, I am born and raised in Russia, so I am never able to go to China or Mongolia to see these opinions. Only I am listen to stories. One of them I hear is that for chinese they are not like Mongolians because they are consider them to be different race, not Asian, but something else. But I am not certain to believe this :P
But also, I am speak to a Chinese person on another forum website who say that I can never be Asian, and that he is consider my people to be lower humanity. But perhaps he is not speak for the whole country?

I am certainly not have any prejudice against China icon_smile.gif
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post Dec 17 2011, 01:49 PM
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Don't worry, you are Asian. The Chinese person who spoke with you in another forum, is of course ignorant himself.

Chinese in general are genuinely friendly to foreigners and "curious" at the same time. Of course, not to said that there aren't bad seeds either.
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post Dec 17 2011, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE (TMM @ Dec 18 2011, 01:49 AM) *
Don't worry, you are Asian. The Chinese person who spoke with you in another forum, is of course ignorant himself.

Chinese in general are genuinely friendly to foreigners and "curious" at the same time. Of course, not to said that there aren't bad seeds either.


Indeed. I too am also very interest about China, and I am viewing them as very similar to my own people, just like Mongolians. I think that the three groups of Oirat, Mongolian, and Chinese have very much similarity between them, and we must all learn to become friends with each other to help understand our similar ways.

Thank you for your positive responding, by the way icon_smile.gif
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post Dec 17 2011, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE (RheeSan21 @ Dec 18 2011, 02:22 AM) *
Allright, well I am not born from Mongolia, I am from Russia, but my family is Oirat people, which is desendants from Mongolians and Genghis Khan. I am always consider myself to be an Asian, because we does not have very good relation with white people in Europe. But what i am wondering, maybe some Chinese people does not have a very good relation with Mongolia, and if I am visiting to China maybe they will take aggressive action towards me?

I would very much like to visit many Asian countries, but I am wanting to be careful that I do not go to a place where they will not accept me.

Can anyone Chinese please provide answer for my question? Thank you icon_smile.gif


QUOTE (SkyBurial @ Dec 18 2011, 02:25 AM) *
It would be more dangerous for a Chinese to go to Mongolia than vice-versa.


I'm agree 100% with what SkyBurial said.

It's more dangerous for a Chinese to go to Mongolia, than Mongolian in China.

China is very very safe for foreigners, you can see many foreigners from many parts of the world in China.


Btw, I'm happy to meet with my fellow Asian from Russia. beerchug.gif

I welcome you to China.


QUOTE (RheeSan21 @ Dec 18 2011, 02:41 AM) *
Well, mostly I am just hearing stories from some Mongolian friends. You see, I am born and raised in Russia, so I am never able to go to China or Mongolia to see these opinions. Only I am listen to stories. One of them I hear is that for chinese they are not like Mongolians because they are consider them to be different race, not Asian, but something else. But I am not certain to believe this :P
But also, I am speak to a Chinese person on another forum website who say that I can never be Asian, and that he is consider my people to be lower humanity. But perhaps he is not speak for the whole country?

I am certainly not have any prejudice against China icon_smile.gif


There's no such thing, Mongolian are Asian too.

Probably it is the Mongolian who reject themself as Asian.

I read many articles in internet about Turks mentality (Turkey to be precisely) to be associated themself and Genghis Khan with Caucasoid.


Btw, you probably met a fake Chinese or mental ill Chinese, I wonder what forum is it?

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post Dec 17 2011, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE (Hugham @ Dec 18 2011, 02:01 AM) *
I'm agree 100% with what SkyBurial said.

It's more dangerous for a Chinese to go to Mongolia, than Mongolian in China.

Btw, I'm happy to meet with my fellow Asian from Russia. beerchug.gif


Thank you. I too am happy to meet a Chinese brethren icon_smile.gif beerchug.gif



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QUOTE (RheeSan21 @ Dec 17 2011, 02:41 PM) *
Well, mostly I am just hearing stories from some Mongolian friends. You see, I am born and raised in Russia, so I am never able to go to China or Mongolia to see these opinions. Only I am listen to stories. One of them I hear is that for chinese they are not like Mongolians because they are consider them to be different race, not Asian, but something else. But I am not certain to believe this :P
But also, I am speak to a Chinese person on another forum website who say that I can never be Asian, and that he is consider my people to be lower humanity. But perhaps he is not speak for the whole country?

I am certainly not have any prejudice against China icon_smile.gif


na, it's the other way around, many people online spouting ultra-nationlists cr@ps just to defend themselves, why would you take that seriously

it doesn't matter you like China or not, people always pay more attention to the @ssholes without thinking deeper, I can ensure you no one would act aggressively against you only because you're mongolian

maybe people expect china to act more civilly or responsibly, but forget this country has just been developing or captalising for a little more than 30 years, a load of sh1t will happen during this fast-pace development, if you take look at england before industrial revolution, same cr@ps happened there too


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post Dec 17 2011, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE (ElapsePride @ Dec 18 2011, 02:05 AM) *
if you take look at england before industrial revolution, same cr@ps happened there too


Ah yes, especially to Chinese people in England. I am reading many stories about terrible racism crimes against Asia immigrants by British during their industry revolution.
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post Dec 17 2011, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (RheeSan21 @ Dec 17 2011, 03:13 PM) *
Ah yes, especially to Chinese people in England. I am reading many stories about terrible racism crimes against Asia immigrants by British during their industry revolution.

and children were forced to work in coal mines, babies left at homes burned to death, etc,
it takes time and effort to go through all this.
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post Dec 17 2011, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE (ElapsePride @ Dec 18 2011, 02:20 AM) *
and children were forced to work in coal mines, babies left at homes burned to death, etc,
it takes time and effort to go through all this.


Yes. In Russia, when Stalin was try to industryalize the country, he make terrible policies that starve many people, and make many families living in fear from police and army. They are still not teach about these things, only I am learn when I am visit UK and read some books.
This seems like things which happen when country goes through much change at very fast rate. Country does better, but people still suffer.
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post Dec 17 2011, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE (Hugham @ Dec 18 2011, 02:01 AM) *
I'm agree 100% with what SkyBurial said.

It's more dangerous for a Chinese to go to Mongolia, than Mongolian in China.

China is very very safe for foreigners, you can see many foreigners from many parts of the world in China.


Btw, I'm happy to meet with my fellow Asian from Russia. beerchug.gif

I welcome you to China.




There's no such thing, Mongolian are Asian too.

Probably it is the Mongolian who reject themself as Asian.

I read many articles in internet about Turks mentality (Turkey to be precisely) to be associated themself and Genghis Khan with Caucasoid.


Ah, forgive me. I know of this. it is not Turkey, but TURKIC. this is different thing from Turkish :P
Turkic are sort of name for group of Mongoloid people which lives in central Asia and has slightly different customs from Chinese or East Asians, like how some of them are Muslim. But these Turkic people is still decendant from Asian, so they should not view themself as different.

I hope I clarify for you icon_smile.gif
Nobody in Asia want to be Turkish biggrin.gif

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post Dec 17 2011, 07:38 PM
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OP, why would it matter to you?
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QUOTE (TMM @ Dec 17 2011, 12:49 PM) *
Don't worry, you are Asian. The Chinese person who spoke with you in another forum, is of course ignorant himself.

Chinese in general are genuinely friendly to foreigners and "curious" at the same time. Of course, not to said that there aren't bad seeds either.

I personally seen the curious part Chinese kids were feeling some Black dudes afro...
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post Dec 18 2011, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE (Titanium @ Dec 18 2011, 07:38 AM) *
OP, why would it matter to you?


Because I am from Russia, but family is decendant of Mongolians, so this is why i wonder.
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QUOTE (RheeSan21 @ Dec 17 2011, 01:22 PM) *
Allright, well I am not born from Mongolia, I am from Russia, but my family is Oirat people, which is desendants from Mongolians and Genghis Khan. I am always consider myself to be an Asian, because we does not have very good relation with white people in Europe. But what i am wondering, maybe some Chinese people does not have a very good relation with Mongolia, and if I am visiting to China maybe they will take aggressive action towards me?

I would very much like to visit many Asian countries, but I am wanting to be careful that I do not go to a place where they will not accept me.

Can anyone Chinese please provide answer for my question? Thank you icon_smile.gif


I think Mongolian are good people and they are welcome anytime in Laos. Also we expect to do a big business together in the future since Mongolian is a good place for farming cattle and other farming business and sustain the people of the Lao and Mongolian people alike. As they say, Mongolian has the green rich grass valley while Laos has the tropical paradise for fruits and other produce. It would make a big difference if these two country exchange trade on fresh produce. beerchug.gif
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QUOTE (AndroidBingBinG @ Dec 19 2011, 05:44 AM) *
I think Mongolian are good people and they are welcome anytime in Laos. Also we expect to do a big business together in the future since Mongolian is a good place for farming cattle and other farming business and sustain the people of the Lao and Mongolian people alike. As they say, Mongolian has the green rich grass valley while Laos has the tropical paradise for fruits and other produce. It would make a big difference if these two country exchange trade on fresh produce. beerchug.gif


I am agree with everything you say icon_smile.gif
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QUOTE (RheeSan21 @ Dec 18 2011, 05:52 PM) *
I am agree with everything you say icon_smile.gif


Both country are landlock nation. I don't see why we can't accept each other support. beerchug.gif
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QUOTE (RheeSan21 @ Dec 18 2011, 02:22 AM) *
Allright, well I am not born from Mongolia, I am from Russia, but my family is Oirat people, which is desendants from Mongolians and Genghis Khan. I am always consider myself to be an Asian, because we does not have very good relation with white people in Europe. But what i am wondering, maybe some Chinese people does not have a very good relation with Mongolia, and if I am visiting to China maybe they will take aggressive action towards me?

I would very much like to visit many Asian countries, but I am wanting to be careful that I do not go to a place where they will not accept me.

Can anyone Chinese please provide answer for my question? Thank you icon_smile.gif


Oirat people live in Xinjiang,their dialect is different to the standarded Inner Mogolian language

The Oirat folk song
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjEyOTYzMjYw.html


Xinjiang Oirat Tobushur
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjgyOTI2NDA4.html

The Concert in Inner Mogolian language
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjQyNzYxMjIw.html


Korchin tribe of Mongols
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTIxMTkyMjU2.html
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