If we had our own Country, homeee Options

[LadyLauLau]

I know you lock your vehicle's windows and doors when you drive through a low-income neighborhood with Blacks being majority.

Same thing here for Lao people. LOL!!!

I lock my car in a Hmong, and Black neighborhood at all cost! Never know if they open that doors with guns pointing at you.

[yajthaugluv]

My father asked if I think we Hmong will oneday have our own country. My answer: NO.

In the case that miraculously we were graciously given a piece of land, most likely it'd be landlocked. When a country is landlocked, it will have difficulty economically and eventually politically. Given the way the Hmong society is currently divided in this country (take, for example, opposing views on the GVP situation which separate young from old and one religious group from the other) and given how our parents' generation can't freaking humble themselves down and pass the torche to our generation to carry on (basically, they still want to be "cov coj"), it's just not gonna work out in a new country.

What are our goals if we do have a country of our own?
How will we surpass clan bias/favortisim?
Can we truly be a democratic country?
How do we plan to change our social structure?

The questions go on and on and all some folks think of is that they want a Hmong country and no strategy. My concern is that we will turn out like Africa. Why is there so many wars, protests, militia coupes, rebels, discrimination between tribes, and unstable political systems? It all goes back to when the continent was divided up by England, France, Spain, Germain, etc during the colonism times. The state lines would be smack down in the middle, splitting tribes to separate countries. One country would have a mixture of OPPOSING tribes. After each country claimed its independence and leaders were selected, the political leaders discriminated citizens who were not of their own tribe. Favortism played a role which led to government overthrows, economic disruption, and so on. Any ways... If the Hmong can overcome bias against others not of their own clan (pab kwvtij or hmoob uas tuav tib xeem li yus) and the role of a Hmong woman is closer to equal than how it's been in the past, then we might be ready for a social restructure. Once we accomplish that then maybe we'll be ready to lead a country together.

Any ways... I can go on in more detail to clarify the above.. but simply put, America is my home and no other country will treat me any better. =)

There will never be a place/land for low live Hmong people to call home. So there's no need to worry about clan bias/favoritism, types of governance, and social structures... Because Hmong people don't have any dreams that they're here in America and that's where they will disintegrate and forgotten.

[scumbodian]

There will never be a place/land for low live Hmong people to call home. So there's no need to worry about clan bias/favoritism, types of governance, and social structures... Because Hmong people don't have any dreams that they're here in America and that's where they will disintegrate and forgotten.

dont worry having a country is just a headache. microsoft is wealthier and more powerful than many countries combined.

[Manleow69]

I lock my car in a Hmong, and Black neighborhood at all cost! Never know if they open that doors with guns pointing at you.

AiNamKong baby, come to bed so i can sit on ur face ! then you can go thro the front door as much as you want!

[yajthaugluv]

dont worry having a country is just a headache. microsoft is wealthier and more powerful than many countries combined.

Microsoft is wealthy but not powerful. What a country lacks in intellectual power or wealth, they make up in labor, raw material, and most importantly it's consider priceless in all things being free like, "money grows on trees." Microsoft is just only a company, they can go under any day whereas a fertile land, it will continue to bear fruits and as long as people are fed, they would be satisfied.

[Ties]

I think there's nothing like having a place to truly call home,
some of you guys may have been able to completely assimlate into American society,
some of you may be able to shut yourself off completely within a Hmong community,
I am neither but I want both

why is it that most people stay within the country of their birth?
why do the olypmics hold such importance for nations?
why are billions of dollars spent on world expos?

It's because of national pride, a sense of indentity,
yea hmongland would be dirty, corrupt, poor, and could end in a potential disater,
but what nation started off completely rich? what nations couldn't have been their own downfalls?
did the united states of america just appear out of thin air one day?
i for one would like the opportunity to try, with blood, sweat, and tears
to watch my land grow,
but atlast my plot of land was taken from me, my home destroyed
and i am on foreign soil, unaware of the crops to plant
i could assimilate and plant the seeds of these other people,
i could try and plant my own seeds on this strange land controled by others,
but no i'd rather my own plot, my own plants, and my own way
because i am hmong and not hmong american or hmong laos nor hmong thai

This post has been edited by Ties: May 21 2010, 09:00 AM

[yajthaugluv]

Yeh, I agree with you on this. No one starts out prosperously and free from revolutions. And those are great questions you brought up, I too would rather have my own plot. But sadly, I don't think many hmong youth care because they rather be ruled by others and ultimately disintegrate.

[Lookatme]

I see that Hmong still thinking about Laos? I thought Vang Pao told everyone to forget about Laos and be happy in America?

AiNamKong, you misunderstood what GVP is saying. General Vang Pao told us to forget Lao people, but not to forget the land we were born in. It's the land, not the people that has nothing to do with us.

This post has been edited by Lookatme: Jul 21 2010, 11:57 AM

[hitmonxiong]

AiNamKong, you misunderstood what GVP is saying. General Vang Pao told us to forget Lao people, but not to forget the land we were born in. It's the land, not the people that has nothing to do with us.

That blowjob thinks Hmong people are thinking of the people of Laos. No, Hmong people are only thinking of the land.

Why? Dur. Hmong people lived in isolation up in the hills. Why would Hmong people miss the people such as lowland Lao? o,0

[q100]

Microsoft is wealthy but not powerful. What a country lacks in intellectual power or wealth, they make up in labor, raw material, and most importantly it's consider priceless in all things being free like, "money grows on trees." Microsoft is just only a company, they can go under any day whereas a fertile land, it will continue to bear fruits and as long as people are fed, they would be satisfied.

i disagree with you.
Microsoft has got its hands in more things than softwares... they're a powerful corporation. political one, too.

[yajloner]

I think there's nothing like having a place to truly call home,
some of you guys may have been able to completely assimlate into American society,
some of you may be able to shut yourself off completely within a Hmong community,
I am neither but I want both

why is it that most people stay within the country of their birth?
why do the olypmics hold such importance for nations?
why are billions of dollars spent on world expos?

It's because of national pride, a sense of indentity,
yea hmongland would be dirty, corrupt, poor, and could end in a potential disater,
but what nation started off completely rich? what nations couldn't have been their own downfalls?
did the united states of america just appear out of thin air one day?
i for one would like the opportunity to try, with blood, sweat, and tears
to watch my land grow,
but atlast my plot of land was taken from me, my home destroyed
and i am on foreign soil, unaware of the crops to plant
i could assimilate and plant the seeds of these other people,
i could try and plant my own seeds on this strange land controled by others,
but no i'd rather my own plot, my own plants, and my own way
because i am hmong and not hmong american or hmong laos nor hmong thai

Amen to that. I cannot say anything more than this.

[lilasiankid]

You can try to grab a Hmongland after WW3....hopefully it won't be another Liberia.

Everyone can sit back and dream and talk of a Hmong nation...but how could you ever realize that dream when you don't even step up to be leaders in your own families and your own communities? This is our reality in these times. That is basically where it all starts.