Koreans and Turkic people, Friendship Options

[AydinKafkaz]

What do Koreans think about the Turkic people? We are (as I like to describe it) Cousins. We both along with the Mongols speak an Altaic language and our vocabulary is very common. I have noticed a lot of Koreans tend to take Turkish as a secong language in Universities. The World Cup match between South Korea and Turkey in particular left viewers amazed at the amount of friendship and happiness both teams held for each other while holding each others flag and running across the field together.

What do Koreans think about the establishment of an Altaic union similar to the European union based on cultural and national awareness. Friendship between all Altaic nations as well as people of Altaic nationality to be able to travel to other Altaic countries without the requirement of Visa's. This all, of course would take a long time to establish.

I am a Tatar, and ever since the disintegration of the Soviet Union 5 Turkic republics gained independance (Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakistan) there have been quite a lot of movement for a union like Turan/Altaic to be set up. This idea is particularely strongest amongst Azeris and Tatars.

[IORI]

dude they're asians i think you're talking about the wrong people

[thelostdragon]

Turkish are Asians as well. I think he means the relationship that has been established between South Korea and Turkey since they helped them during North and South-Korean War.

[F.L.A.]

This is very interesting,
I didn't know these things about our language.

Politically, I know that Turkish would
like to entry in Europe Union!

Even if they are more near to middle est !!???!!

[proclaim]

korean culture is v interesting... it's a melting pot of many different cultures:
mongol descent, atlatic grammar and sentence structure, han chinese vocab (more than 50% of korean words have their roots in e chinese language), japanese and american influence (even tho koreans dun really like either of these to varying extents)...

so i personally dun think that koreans particularly identify themselves as the atlatic pp group...

[直隸總督]

What do Koreans think about the establishment of an Altaic union similar to the European union based on cultural and national awareness. Friendship between all Altaic nations as well as people of Altaic nationality to be able to travel to other Altaic countries without the requirement of Visa's. This all, of course would take a long time to establish.

another Pan-Altaicist? The term Altaic refers to a linguistic family, not cultural, not racial , not geographical. Koreans are rather Sinisized and they do not share similar traits with the Turkish at all. This idea of union is totally absurd.

[Dachink]

hmmm..I never heard of Turkic people

[DaMo]

What do Koreans think about the establishment of an Altaic union similar to the European union based on cultural and national awareness. Friendship between all Altaic nations as well as people of Altaic nationality to be able to travel to other Altaic countries without the requirement of Visa's. This all, of course would take a long time to establish.

another Pan-Altaicist? The term Altaic refers to a linguistic family, not cultural, not racial , not geographical. Koreans are rather Sinisized and they do not share similar traits with the Turkish at all. This idea of union is totally absurd.

I agree. And even the linguistic links between Korean and Japanese and the Turkic and Altaic family is not really agreed upon. However, Korea and the Turkic nations can still be friends for other reasons.

hmmm..I never heard of Turkic people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_people

This post has been edited by DaMo: Mar 24 2004, 10:32 PM

[Hirschfanger]

Do you mean Turkish?

Language set up and all is close to hebrew. I never heard this relation. Turks aren't asian though they are arabs. Some of the northren european groups like magyars and such do have mongol blood from when the hordes swept europe. Could just be left over of effects of mongol occupation.

[dalawapo]

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[直隸總督]

very interesting indeed!

what do you guys think about a Union of the Malay world, specifically the malay countries of Indonesia, Malaysia, and the Philippines including Madagascar, the aboriginals of Taiwan, and Micronesia?

Unlike this proposed Union of the Altaic, the Malay people share common Ethnic ties (being Malay) and same Cultural & lingustic ties (both classified as Austronesian). All of which have merely foreign influences that each island adopted.

i would like to consider this Union much like our brother Polynesians have with their "Polynesian Triangle."

But this Union of the Malay and it's triangle from Madagascar, Taiwan, and Micronesia (Guam).

here is a site about the "Malay People"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_people

What is this Malay Union all about? I'd support it if it's a cultural awareness organization. But from posts, you seem to be promoting separatism in the countries you've stated above and pushing toward your pan-Malay empire.

[dalawapo]

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[nungi]

Turkey and Korea don't have much in common. They are good friends indeed, but their social living conditions are too different, just look at the religions.

Turks aren't asian though they are arabs

Wrong! The Turkish aren't Arabs, they're Asians :genius:

[fk650]

Perhaps Turkish and Korean shared an Altaic long in eons long past. However, today, the two are completely different countries. Except for a few academicians who may share comraderie because of their shared study on the Altaic languages. I doubt most Koreans and Turks would view each other as comrades. Perhaps they could be friends, but obviously, the cultural differences are too large.

Turkey has become part of the Islamic/European worlds. Korea is very much a part of East Asia.

[toonluv]

I find that whole region of europe the most interesting even though in this century it is forgotten in obscurity. Romania, Moldavia, Transylania etc. It is believed the attila and the huns settled in that area and that there is quite a bit of mongol heritage. It is the most haunting, beautiful and fecund places in europe and I think a much more richer, deeper and intriguing history. Even though Germany, Great Britain, America, Canada, France etc the more 'norse' countries are centerstage this century, they got nothing on these hidden gems of europe and their past glory. Also, it shows how much migration and the infusion of different races shapes cultures and history. Attila is believed to be from the korean peninsula. Even the germans have an asian angle(unfortunately) and the russians. There is also a hint of this interwoven in the languages even though it is romanized. Nations are a blend of many things and the happenstance of history. It would be an honor to visit that area and see the carpathian mountains myself.

This post has been edited by toonluv: Mar 25 2004, 11:38 AM

[Akata]

turkish is asian???
i don't think so cause they are more similar with arabs and caucasian than mongoloid race(asian)look at their appearence and their skin.

[Kulong]

turkish is asian???
i don't think so cause they are more similar with arabs and caucasian than mongoloid race(asian)look at their appearence and their skin.

Keep in mind, to Europeans, who named the continents, "Asia" is the equivlent of "Others". Asia is the largest continent and the only one that contains people of different races. In Asia, we have East Asians, Southeast Asians, South Asians, and Central Asians. I guess Turkey would fall in the category of Central Asian.

[DaMo]

turkish is asian???
i don't think so cause they are more similar with arabs and caucasian than mongoloid race(asian)look at their appearence and their skin.

True. Quite a few of them could easily pass for heartland European.

Still, because of past invasions, they are considered to be "Asiatic", a rather flimsy archaic category which includes practically every person living in the continent of Asia, of native nationality. More on that later.

[YManchun]

Attila is believed to be from the korean peninsula.   

Anyways, I think there is some truth that koreans and turks to the connectoin between them. The first yang family in korea originated from chinese turks (not sure if they are the same). And the Koran mentioned korea in their scriptures if I am correct (correct me if I'm wrong).

This post has been edited by YManchun: Mar 25 2004, 03:02 PM

[DaMo]

Attila is believed to be from the korean peninsula.   

Yeah, and Genghis Khan was Japanese.