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Assume you are president of china
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post Feb 17 2012, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 17 2012, 06:18 PM) *
The only things that can be done are as follows:
1. Stop donating aid to Africa and India. Let nature cull their large families.
2. Have immigration laws that favor Mongoloids.
3. The only non-Asians who should even have a chance of immigrating to the Far East are those that are highly educated and very intelligent.

4. Stop promoting popular culture among the westerners and somewhere else in the world...there are alot of sickos coming to Japan and asia thinking it as heaven for animal primitive......
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post Feb 18 2012, 12:56 AM
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this is why you guys are short-mind and would never be a good leader. embarassedlaugh.gif
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post Feb 18 2012, 04:41 AM
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DJay what would you do as president?

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post Feb 18 2012, 05:16 AM
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If I were president of China, I'd still be kept it check. It's not Mao's day anymore. You still have to listen to the rest of the Politburo.
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post Feb 18 2012, 05:19 AM
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QUOTE (Boron @ Feb 17 2012, 05:44 AM) *
Teachers that actually like their job?


Boron's got a point. Seriously, how many people really have a passion for their jobs, especially for primary/secondary/high school teachers? There are a few yeah, but let's be serious. I've had teachers in the US who sucked balls also. At least the teachers in China get results.
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post Feb 18 2012, 05:20 AM
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QUOTE (Boron @ Feb 17 2012, 05:44 AM) *
Teachers that actually like their job?


Boron's got a point. Seriously, how many people really have a passion for their jobs, especially for primary/secondary/high school teachers? There are a few yeah, but let's be serious. I've had teachers in the US who sucked balls also. At least the teachers in China get results.
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post Feb 18 2012, 06:11 AM
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1st. Fight corruption anyway possible. This is the most critical and long last objective on which this country should keep focus.

2nd. Get rid of the "RED CULTURE" , the politics garbage gained from old SU, and promote traditional cultures on the basis of Taoism, Confucianism, Mohism, Legalism of Hanfeizi.

3rd. No more minority regions, benefits, if they don't like being average citizens just like everyone else then get out! on the other hand, ban Han chauvinism as well. Extremists from both sides are damaging the country.

4th. Legislate anti-regionalism act, encourage migration between north, south, east and west, and everyone should be able of speaking Mandarin!

5th. Let everyone be aware of our major potential surrounding national enemies, both historical and modern, that include Outer Mongolia, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, although military actions would not necessarily be deployed.

6th. Tight up the relationship with African countries, European countries, other south east asian countries. Migrations from these countries are welcomed with extremely rigorous filtration and disciplines, China is not an immigration country but does need foreign elites.

7th, Accelerate political and economic reforms

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post Feb 18 2012, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 17 2012, 07:31 AM) *
Actually I agree with you. It's true Asian countries won't unite anytime soon.

My only real goal with regards to the race issue is to get overseas Asians to build a new Asian society. I am mainly talking about how Asian Americans, Asian Canadians, Asian Australians, etc. should get together in the Pacific Northwest to build a new Asian society.

Everything else is just for the sake of discussion.

Yeah,the thing is whatever accomplishment other asians achieve they keep it to themselves,we Chinese are the only one whos willing to share our glory pride and achievements with other asians.
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post Feb 18 2012, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (Suijen @ Feb 18 2012, 05:20 AM) *
I've had teachers in the US who sucked balls also. At least the teachers in China get results.

In my opinion, the way America does school is better. The system is fair, organized, and teachers are more attentive to their students - especially those that need extra help. But I think American students aren't as smart in school as Chinese students. Then if you look at schools in China, the education system is always getting harped on, and Chinese teachers are messy and not as flexible/available for their students, yet Chinese students excel in school.

The good results you're talking about probably have more to do with Chinese parents valuing education more than American parents and always making sure their kid is on top of things, and the kids knowing how important school is and focusing really hard on it and applying themselves. I think Chinese teachers have very little to do with the success their students have, especially considering that Chinese students excel in other countries as well; US, Australia, Canada, where more than likely the majority of their teachers aren't Chinese.
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post Feb 18 2012, 05:05 PM
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^^ I assumed, you went to schools in China?
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post Feb 18 2012, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (ReginaRae @ Feb 19 2012, 03:42 AM) *
In my opinion, the way America does school is better. The system is fair, organized, and teachers are more attentive to their students - especially those that need extra help. But I think American students aren't as smart in school as Chinese students. Then if you look at schools in China, the education system is always getting harped on, and Chinese teachers are messy and not as flexible/available for their students, yet Chinese students excel in school.

The good results you're talking about probably have more to do with Chinese parents valuing education more than American parents and always making sure their kid is on top of things, and the kids knowing how important school is and focusing really hard on it and applying themselves. I think Chinese teachers have very little to do with the success their students have, especially considering that Chinese students excel in other countries as well; US, Australia, Canada, where more than likely the majority of their teachers aren't Chinese.

Chinese schools place high standards on their students to succeed. Students who get Ds in China magically end up in an honors class in the United States. The one thing they teach at New Oriental GRE: "If you can't get a max score in the GRE math section, then you're an embarrassment". Ie, Chinese from HK/Taiwan/Mainland still outperform ABCs in math. The reason is because the standards, across the board, are higher.


And what you're arguing has less to do with how "good" the teacher is and more to do with what resources a teacher has. I've seen "good" schools in China, and every class has 30-40 students. You can't really be flexible with that now can you?

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post Feb 18 2012, 11:32 PM
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i will use my presidential credibility and status to call for private Politburo meeting and ask for 10 mins of attention. if i can't convince the members of this reform, i will quit as president.
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post Feb 18 2012, 11:36 PM
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Chinese train students to be tough minded, disciplined, and accurate. The one's from mainland will kill me at many mental tasks. Their software is also clean and reliable.

They're not expansionist minded like westerners. But the AA's that grow up in the west don't acquire that trait either. TBH I don't see much seriously wrong with Chinese education before college. During college it's more about the social experience than academic learning. They learn a lot about entering the adult world, but they are not mentally expansive (in the technical direction) like western campuses.
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post Feb 19 2012, 09:33 AM
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Mandatory military service after high school.
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post Feb 19 2012, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE (Suijen @ Feb 18 2012, 07:31 PM) *
Chinese schools place high standards on their students to succeed. Students who get Ds in China magically end up in an honors class in the United States. The one thing they teach at New Oriental GRE: "If you can't get a max score in the GRE math section, then you're an embarrassment". Ie, Chinese from HK/Taiwan/Mainland still outperform ABCs in math. The reason is because the standards, across the board, are higher.

I'm aware that Asian schools have high standards to the point where it's stressful, but now I'm not necessarily talking about the school system, but the teachers, their methods, and the way they approach the students. My first reply to you was about Chinese teachers and their effect or lack off on their students and how they fare to Western teachers. In this case, it's completely possible to have a school with high standards with teachers that suck @$$.

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And what you're arguing has less to do with how "good" the teacher is and more to do with what resources a teacher has.

It has to do with how the teacher utilizes what they have, even with 30-40 students or a school that's falling apart. This does reflect if they are passionate about what they do and how much they're willing to stretch for the students. You or someone else will probably say teachers in China are passionate and stretch themselves for their students like American, Japanese or Nigerian teachers (the best teachers in my opinion) because clearly, Chinese students excel, but as I said before this has more to do with the ambition of Chinese students and the motivation, or constant harping, their parents give them. I mean do you think an American student in a Chinese school would do as well as their Chinese peers?
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post Feb 19 2012, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE (ReginaRae @ Feb 19 2012, 11:50 AM) *
I'm aware that Asian schools have high standards to the point where it's stressful, but now I'm not necessarily talking about the school system, but the teachers, their methods, and the way they approach the students. My first reply to you was about Chinese teachers and their effect or lack off on their students and how they fare to Western teachers. In this case, it's completely possible to have a school with high standards with teachers that suck @$$.


It has to do with how the teacher utilizes what they have, even with 30-40 students or a school that's falling apart. This does reflect if they are passionate about what they do and how much they're willing to stretch for the students. You or someone else will probably say teachers in China are passionate and stretch themselves for their students like American, Japanese or Nigerian teachers (the best teachers in my opinion) because clearly, Chinese students excel, but as I said before this has more to do with the ambition of Chinese students and the motivation, or constant harping, their parents give them. I mean do you think an American student in a Chinese school would do as well as their Chinese peers?


So you are going to stereotype all Chinese teachers as "uncaring"? Being a "good" teacher is all subjective. There's no measuring stick for how "caring" a teacher can be - the only way to measure performance is through tests (sorry, but that's reality).

Yes, American teachers are soooo passionate - that's why there are so many scandals involving teachers sleeping with students. Apparantly they "care" too much! Or the "no child left behind" policy where teachers were filling in bubble sheets to get funding for schools. Yeah, I guess they do care a lot.

You've never even experienced the school system in China, so how would you know? Unless you are going by stereotypes. Why do you always think you are an "expert" on stuff you've never experienced or taken the time to actually learn about?
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post Feb 19 2012, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE (devils666 @ Feb 19 2012, 11:18 AM) *
So you are going to stereotype all Chinese teachers as "uncaring"? Being a "good" teacher is all subjective. There's no measuring stick for how "caring" a teacher can be - the only way to measure performance is through tests (sorry, but that's reality).

I didn't say Chinese teachers didn't care. I said in my opinion they're not as attentive or passionate about their jobs. Their methods and the way they handle the classroom isn't the way I would do it, nor is it the way some of the top countries do it. Test results don't matter because I've already explained the reason why Chinese students do well in school; because of their own efforts and the way Chinese parents see education. Chinese students would still soar in school if they had a foreigner teaching them. I mean, I'm actually complimenting Chinese students. I'm saying they're more ambitious and serious about their studies than most kids but it seems you and other people want to give all the credit to their teachers...

Haha. Typical. Not giving credit to the common people but to the authoritarian figure.
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post Feb 19 2012, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Feb 14 2012, 02:10 AM) *
hypothetically speaking..you are a leader of china or one of the important government official, what would you propose to change in china? it can be from anything from political reform, economic reform, cultural reform, education reform, etc.. but only one you can do....


Education. Every option otherwise - cultural, economic, political - merely follows.

But even education is not reformable or so malleable at least in global context as I've said elsewhere. You can't turn some Down's syndrome kid into genius. China, or East Asia in general, however, probably does have better luck than the rest.
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