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Hafiz
post Sep 2 2009, 06:26 AM
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Share your opinions.

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post Sep 2 2009, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE (21JumpStreet @ Sep 2 2009, 09:04 PM) *
So what country did the chinese send spies to steal this technology from?

technology is made by people and should be shared by all people.

If one country wants to keep their inventions a secret so they can exploit and enslave other people then people have the right to stop them at any costs.
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post Sep 2 2009, 09:34 AM
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is catapult technology that hard to master? that even a fanboy ps'er doesn't allow himself/herself to imagine it?

or is it that the catapult shortens the airframe's lifetime so much that it's uneconomical for China

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post Sep 2 2009, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE (orange peel @ Sep 2 2009, 10:34 PM) *
is catapult technology that hard to master? that even a fanboy ps'er doesn't allow himself/herself to imagine it?

or is it that the catapult shortens the airframe's lifetime so much that it's uneconomical for China


the Varyag was never designed to have catapults. China purchased the unfinished hull from Ukraine.
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post Sep 2 2009, 11:35 AM
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Looks very nice.
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post Sep 2 2009, 11:43 AM
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looks like fanboy art but recently they have been doing work on the ex-varyag such as dismantling the old island
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post Sep 3 2009, 10:05 AM
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Russian carriers aren't fine even as platform for nightclubs http://www.hudong.com/wiki/天津...#20844;园 hoho, I would mention why it was commissioned, ya it was commissioned because of braindead engine placement. And I wouldn't even mention it for famous Minsk one =D

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post Sep 3 2009, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (baybal @ Sep 4 2009, 12:05 AM) *
Russian carriers aren't fine even as platform for nightclubs http://www.hudong.com/wiki/天津...#20844;园 hoho, I would mention why it was commissioned, ya it was commissioned because of braindead engine placement. And I wouldn't even mention it for famous Minsk one =D


PLAN purchased the Varyag for learning purposes anyways.
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post Sep 3 2009, 11:33 AM
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Im pretty sure that the "company" that purchased it for entertainment would be bankrupt long ago considering it has been idle for the last 7 years and the billions of dollars used to transport it to China
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post Sep 3 2009, 05:19 PM
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If you remember the 60s Japan was known for their lack of innovation and at times low quality products and people questioned their innovative capabilities as their products were thought to be copies. Today they are a innovative superpower. The idea is that you have to get competitive before the can innovate and to get competitive, you have to produce low cost products and that includes low cost research. The ability to innovate does not come magically, it takes generations to become an innovative powerhouse

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post Sep 6 2009, 02:00 PM
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Why bother even responding to the troll's bs claims about China? He's just a troll and that's what he's gonna do no matter what you say. We should just ignore him and take it as a compliment that he finds China so threatening that he has to come troll us.

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post Sep 6 2009, 02:22 PM
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there's no reason to not steal technology. patent laws were created to enrich a small subset of people
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post Sep 6 2009, 08:52 PM
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Unlike consumer goods, for all intense and purposes there is no stealing of designs in military equipment. every one does it including the U.S.

Besides, copying can only make something at best equal to the original. You have to add somethings of your own to make it better.
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post Sep 6 2009, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (21JumpStreet @ Sep 3 2009, 06:59 PM) *
"technology is made by people and should be shared by all people.

If one country wants to keep their inventions a secret so they can exploit and enslave other people then people have the right to stop them at any costs."

Is that the only argument that Chinese people have for stealing other peoples technology? People across the world spend their lives, their blood sweat and tears, their entire mental capacity to invent, research and design to create inventions to make this world a better and safer place, and then the Chinese send their little cockroach spies in to steal the technology, and lie through their fu-ken teeth when confronted. Its unethical and its immoral.

Id rather be known to be innovative and inventive, smart and creative like the Japanese than to be known as a bunch of low IQ lying little cockroach stealing theives like the Chinese. Its funny, out of the 1 billion 400 million Chinese youd think there be a good number of creative people..i guess not. All ethnic groups in China including the caucasian ones have some kind of Han Chinese blood, so I count everyone in China no matter ethnic group as chinese.

lol low level troll huh. you can go check the stats for patents and triadic patents alike. in both China is growing quite fast. you can ask aerein what triadic patents are if you dont know, which i seriously doubt you do.

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post Sep 8 2009, 07:23 AM
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i thought the common name these days for aircraft carriers is "floating coffins"
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post Sep 8 2009, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (MangoMania @ Sep 8 2009, 06:23 AM) *
i thought the common name these days for aircraft carriers is "floating coffins"


nah, they are actually the sword behind the shield of destroyers, frigates and subs
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post Sep 8 2009, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (MangoMania @ Sep 8 2009, 01:23 PM) *
i thought the common name these days for aircraft carriers is "floating coffins"


Well, if you look at the shape of the typical flight deck........
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post Sep 10 2009, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (sinraptor @ Sep 8 2009, 06:31 PM) *
nah, they are actually the sword behind the shield of destroyers, frigates and subs

what sword?

they are usually called one hit blunders

as in one hit and the thing is gone, the runway is destroyed and the aircraft cant take off

just a nice big coffin sinking into the ocean icon_neutral.gif

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post Sep 10 2009, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE (MangoMania @ Sep 10 2009, 09:37 AM) *
what sword?

they are usually called one hit blunders

as in one hit and the thing is gone, the runway is destroyed and the aircraft cant take off

just a nice big coffin sinking into the ocean icon_neutral.gif


thats why there are so much frigates, destroyers and subs to protect it while the carrier attacks with firepower that the escorts cannot provide
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post Sep 11 2009, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (sinraptor @ Sep 11 2009, 12:43 PM) *
thats why there are so much frigates, destroyers and subs to protect it while the carrier attacks with firepower that the escorts cannot provide


China atm does not have enough to defend its coastlines, trade routes and forming a carrier battle group at the same time.

PLAN should keep pumping out frigates and subs and leave the carrier at the R&D stage until its ready.
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