PLAN building large tonnage 10,000 destroyer, bigger than russia's 8000 tons Sovremenny destroyer Options

[lilzz]

If you think Sovremenny destroyer is big, then there's something even bigger on the horzion. Hard stealth and more deadly.




Beijing To Build Large Destroyers


Beijing plans to build a new generation of large destroyers as part of its effort to develop a blue-water navy, a report from an official ship-building institute shows.

The new generation of destroyers is important to China's long-term goal of building and operating aircraft carriers.

The destroyers will displace more than 10,000 tonnes, according to the report by the China Shipbuilding Information Centre--an institute under the China Shipbulding Industry Corporation, the largest state-owned shipbuilder in China. In addition to commercial ships, China’s stateowned shipbuilders also build warships.

“As China pursues the goal of building a high-seas naval force with far-reaching capabilities, it needs large-tonnage destroyers,” Andrei Chang, editor-in-chief of the Kanwa Defence Review based in Canada, said. “Only heavy destroyers with more than 10,000 tonnes of displacement are capable of carrying new, supersonic anti-warship missiles with a striking range of 500 kilometres.”

The report said the new destroyers would be another “trump card” for the PLA Navy. They would exceed the largest mainland-made destroyers in service by almost 4,000 tonnes, indicating an overall improvement in combat potential. The planned ship is even larger than the four 8,000tonne Sovremenny class destroyers that Russia has sold to China.

While the Sovremenny destroyer was a typical cold war-era Soviet design, with a large profile that made it easily detectable by radar, the new destroyer would feature “fully developed stealth technology”, the report said. Most of its weapons systems and sensors would not be exposed externally, making the ships harder to detect on radar.

The warship would also carry a large number of weapons systems and sensors, as well as sophisticated electronic warfare and defence equipment, the report said.

The most important of these was a new, supersonic anti-warship missile with a striking range of 500 kilometres. The report said the PLA hoped the new destroyers could close the gap in combat capability between the Chinese and Western navies.

On December 23 last year, defence ministry spokesman Huang Xueping said Beijing was “seriously considering” building a carrier to protect its national interests, ending a decade of speculation by overseas observers.



This post has been edited by lilzz: Sep 15 2010, 05:06 PM

[asaiofinest]

If you think Sovremenny destroyer is big, then there's something even bigger on the horzion. Hard stealth and more deadly.




Beijing To Build Large Destroyers


Beijing plans to build a new generation of large destroyers as part of its effort to develop a blue-water navy, a report from an official ship-building institute shows.

The new generation of destroyers is important to China's long-term goal of building and operating aircraft carriers.

The destroyers will displace more than 10,000 tonnes, according to the report by the China Shipbuilding Information Centre--an institute under the China Shipbulding Industry Corporation, the largest state-owned shipbuilder in China. In addition to commercial ships, China’s stateowned shipbuilders also build warships.

“As China pursues the goal of building a high-seas naval force with far-reaching capabilities, it needs large-tonnage destroyers,” Andrei Chang, editor-in-chief of the Kanwa Defence Review based in Canada, said. “Only heavy destroyers with more than 10,000 tonnes of displacement are capable of carrying new, supersonic anti-warship missiles with a striking range of 500 kilometres.”

The report said the new destroyers would be another “trump card” for the PLA Navy. They would exceed the largest mainland-made destroyers in service by almost 4,000 tonnes, indicating an overall improvement in combat potential. The planned ship is even larger than the four 8,000tonne Sovremenny class destroyers that Russia has sold to China.

While the Sovremenny destroyer was a typical cold war-era Soviet design, with a large profile that made it easily detectable by radar, the new destroyer would feature “fully developed stealth technology”, the report said. Most of its weapons systems and sensors would not be exposed externally, making the ships harder to detect on radar.

The warship would also carry a large number of weapons systems and sensors, as well as sophisticated electronic warfare and defence equipment, the report said.

The most important of these was a new, supersonic anti-warship missile with a striking range of 500 kilometres. The report said the PLA hoped the new destroyers could close the gap in combat capability between the Chinese and Western navies.

On December 23 last year, defence ministry spokesman Huang Xueping said Beijing was “seriously considering” building a carrier to protect its national interests, ending a decade of speculation by overseas observers.

The U.S. seems to be far more successful at wooing emerging Asian states than China, whose "peaceful rise" clearly fails to inspire confidence beyond Pyongyang and Islamabad.

[FieryOFTheEast]

• Flight I - 8,315 t (8,184 LT; 9,166 ST)
• Flight II - 8,400 t (8,300 LT; 9,300 ST)
• Flight IIA - 9,200 t (9,100 LT; 10,100 ST)
• Flight III - 10,000 t (9,800 LT; 11,000 ST)

[GrigoriRasputin]

Why you lose your time reply to this @$$hole ? The Russian call the ship with more than 10k of tons cruiser like Kirov / Slava class those $hit beat all china ships a lot.

The U.S. seems to be far more successful at wooing emerging Asian states than China, whose "peaceful rise" clearly fails to inspire confidence beyond Pyongyang and Islamabad.

Shut up viet kieu $hit stop to reply the topics from this retarded masturbator!

[lilzz]

Why you lose your time reply to this @$$hole ? The Russian call the ship with more than 10k of tons cruiser like Kirov / Slava class those $hit beat all china ships a lot.



Shut up viet kieu $hit stop to reply the topics from this retarded masturbator!

slava, kirov obsolete cold war junk, still using those fishbone like antenna and radar. get out of here, you outdated bum.

This post has been edited by lilzz: Sep 18 2010, 10:24 AM

[asaiofinest]

slava, kirov obsolete cold war junk, still using those fishbone like antenna and radar. get out of here, you outdated bum.

GrigoriRasputin a troll possibly a government paid one at that.

[Illuminatee]

slava, kirov obsolete cold war junk, still using those fishbone like antenna and radar. get out of here, you outdated bum.

Get lost, Slava and Kirov are Cold War products but they are still the best warship in Asia. The inferior chinese navy does not even have anything close to the Slava and Kirov

The Slava with its 16 550-km Bazalt supersonic antiship missile can destroy an entire chinese fleet on any given day. In a shooting game, the Slava can launch its missiles and the chinese don't even have anything in range to reply. chinese fleet will get blown to pieces before they even have a chance to launch missiles at the Slava

Don't even talk about the Kirov with its 750-km Vulvan supersonic missiles

[lilzz]

Get lost, Slava and Kirov are Cold War products but they are still the best warship in Asia. The inferior chinese navy does not even have anything close to the Slava and Kirov

The Slava with its 16 550-km Bazalt supersonic antiship missile can destroy an entire chinese fleet on any given day. In a shooting game, the Slava can launch its missiles and the chinese don't even have anything in range to reply. chinese fleet will get blown to pieces before they even have a chance to launch missiles at the Slava

Don't even talk about the Kirov with its 750-km Vulvan supersonic missiles

Chinese destroyer featuring pwoerful phase array "aegis like " radar.
slava features obsolete radar, doesn't matter what missiles you have, weak guidance will never cut it.

[asaiofinest]

Chinese destroyer featuring pwoerful phase array "aegis like " radar.
slava features obsolete radar, doesn't matter what missiles you have, weak guidance will never cut it.

Crappy Chinese copies, will prove to be little more than target practice for the US and India should things get heated in the region!

[Attention]

Crappy Chinese copies, will prove to be little more than target practice for the US and India should things get heated in the region!

Yet enough to make a joke out of Vietnamese. Funny, Vietnamese can't copy or produce genuine version of it. They just know how to buy, LOL

India? Check how US and Russian helped them. At least study your material before barking

This post has been edited by Attention: Sep 25 2010, 02:36 PM

[DissipativeOpera...]

Get lost, Slava and Kirov are Cold War products but they are still the best warship in Asia. The inferior chinese navy does not even have anything close to the Slava and Kirov

The Slava with its 16 550-km Bazalt supersonic antiship missile can destroy an entire chinese fleet on any given day. In a shooting game, the Slava can launch its missiles and the chinese don't even have anything in range to reply. chinese fleet will get blown to pieces before they even have a chance to launch missiles at the Slava

Don't even talk about the Kirov with its 750-km Vulvan supersonic missiles

DF-21D anti-ship ballastic Missile:

Range: 1500-3000km
Speed: Mach 10+
Payload: 2000 kg

Russian P700 (a.k.a Vulvan or whatever):

Range: 500-750km
Speed: Mach 1.5-2.5
Payload: 750 kg


DF-21D has 3+ times better range, travelling at a speed 4-7+ times faster, get 3x heavier warhead.

In terms of damage it can inflict:

Explosive damage:
3X more explosive damage thanks to the much heavier warhead


Impact damage:
Up to 50X more impact damage than that of the P700, roughly equal to up to 50 P700 missiles hit on the ship at the same time on the same spot thanks to its much faster speed.

So if P700 can be bragged as carrier-killer than the DF-21D is the carrier-eater.

Not to mention, the satellite system, the Legenda or something, which provide early targetting and middel-phase gudiance for the P700, at the moment has already disfunctioned and collapsed and Russian has no money nor resource to get it work anytime soon.

So basically nowadays you can consider P700 as some gudie-less rocket that can travel to anywhere other than the target.

This post has been edited by DissipativeOperator: Sep 25 2010, 02:43 PM