America will not leave Japan Options

[hapkido1996]

westerners are excellent orators. but they are woefully lacking in ethics and morality. the concepts exist in their intellectual world of course, but they have yet to materialize in reality.

Want a quick history less on the allegedly superior Asian ethics and morality? I hope so, because there's a lot to be said about it. :coffee:

[Southasianguy]

westerners are excellent orators. but they are woefully lacking in ethics and morality. the concepts exist in their intellectual world of course, but they have yet to materialize in reality.

Very true, I mean to till this day the US is framing the middle east for their wars to rob off their oil and gold reserves! If you look at all the wars these pink idiots have done, it far outclasses the japanese.

[Yerroperil]

Very true, I mean to till this day the US is framing the middle east for their wars to rob off their oil and gold reserves! If you look at all the wars these pink idiots have done, it far outclasses the japanese.

False,Japanese did far worse,at least U.S. troops were civil enough not to massacre a whole town(Nanjing massacre),install comfort women(given some troops did rape civilians) or tested biological pathogens on civilians(Unit 731)...

[KraterosHellas]

False,Japanese did far worse,at least U.S. troops were civil enough not to massacre a whole town(Nanjing massacre),install comfort women(given some troops did rape civilians) or tested biological pathogens on civilians(Unit 731)...

umm...are u forgetting hiroshima and nagasaki??? those weren't just "towns" they were entire metropolises

as for Unit 731, the US granted FULL IMMUNITY to the guilty perpetuators IN EXCHANGE for the medical data. they also USED this stuff during korean war and even proposed nuking china.

u have NO IDEA of the magnitue of the evil america is capable of.

[Yerroperil]

Nuking was necessary(otherwise it would be that the U.S. conducting a land invasion with civilians going kamikaze or killing themselves because they believe Americans are going to rape them,also if that did happen imagine what the IJA troops would do the populace on foreign lands),that was more than what the Japanese deserved as deaths,at least you get vaporized quick instead of being raped and left to die in Nanjing... Yes,I agree letting Shiro Ishii off the hook was detestable but that does not even come close to what Shiro Isshi actually did to innocents... Lol I criticize U.S.,however Japan was the greater evil during WW2...

[KraterosHellas]

Nuking was necessary(otherwise it would be that the U.S. conducting a land invasion with civilians going kamikaze or killing themselves because they believe Americans are going to rape them,also if that did happen imagine what the IJA troops would do the populace on foreign lands),that was more than what the Japanese deserved as deaths,at least you get vaporized quick instead of being raped and left to die in Nanjing... Yes,I agree letting Shiro Ishii off the hook was detestable but that does not even come close to what Shiro Isshi actually did to innocents... Lol I criticize U.S.,however Japan was the greater evil during WW2...

necessary? are u actually trying to justify what the americans did to japan? no it wasn't necessary. america could have just dropped the bomb on the sea near enough so they can see what they had and they would have given up all the same.

[hapkido1996]

necessary? are u actually trying to justify what the americans did to japan? no it wasn't necessary. america could have just dropped the bomb on the sea near enough so they can see what they had and they would have given up all the same.

Horse$hit. There was nearly a military coup d'etat when capitulation was decided upon after BOTH bombs were dropped. Study history. Read a book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8

[Blackdude]

They won't leave until a rival superpower can pressure them from the region. China is the best bet, ironically.

[devils666]

They won't leave until a rival superpower can pressure them from the region. China is the best bet, ironically.

A rival superpower will only make them more paranoid and bloodthirsty. They will only INCREASE military presence until China collapses.

[Blackdude]

A rival superpower will only make them more paranoid and bloodthirsty. They will only INCREASE military presence until China collapses.

Conflict between China and U.S. is inevitable, I predict another cold war.

[devils666]

Conflict between China and U.S. is inevitable, I predict another cold war.

The only one who wants a cold war are the elites in America. But it's smart for China to build up their military because then it will make the US build up theirs and eventually be bankrupt.

It's the white man's "god complex" and ego that will lead to his demise.

[Yerroperil]

necessary? are u actually trying to justify what the americans did to japan? no it wasn't necessary. america could have just dropped the bomb on the sea near enough so they can see what they had and they would have given up all the same.

Prove to me that Japan was going to give up just because America said so,they were going to fight to the last man and if they got captured families were going to kill themselves. Why was it necessary for Japan to invade Asia and commit atrocities but now try to whitewash them as liberating Asia?

[KraterosHellas]

Prove to me that Japan was going to give up just because America said so,they were going to fight to the last man and if they got captured families were going to kill themselves. Why was it necessary for Japan to invade Asia and commit atrocities but now try to whitewash them as liberating Asia?

i can't prove to u anything. but i still think the bombs weren't necessary to win the war. america was just trying to find a shortcut and in doing so they turned against civilians. that just shows how degraded and evil they are. they have no sense of dignity or decency. they couldn't handle japanese soliders so they turned on unarmed civilians.

[hapkido1996]

i can't prove to u anything. but i still think the bombs weren't necessary to win the war. america was just trying to find a shortcut and in doing so they turned against civilians. that just shows how degraded and evil they are. they have no sense of dignity or decency. they couldn't handle japanese soliders so they turned on unarmed civilians.

Nanjing. Korea. Burma. The morally superior Japanese were enslaving, raping, doing horrendous live medical experiements, and killing in a dozen different countries. If the Japanese had respected civilian life, maybe the US would've been a little slower to drop the bombs.

You don't have a moral leg to stand on, dude. Read a book. A history book, preferably.

[chiuchimu]

Nanjing. Korea. Burma. The morally superior Japanese were enslaving, raping, doing horrendous live medical experiements, and killing in a dozen different countries. If the Japanese had respected civilian life, maybe the US would've been a little slower to drop the bombs.

You don't have a moral leg to stand on, dude. Read a book. A history book, preferably.

So what?

That was world War 2. There is enough of Historic Atrocities to go around.



Why is a white kid wasting his time living in WW2 for? Get a life.

[Yerroperil]

i can't prove to u anything. but i still think the bombs weren't necessary to win the war. america was just trying to find a shortcut and in doing so they turned against civilians. that just shows how degraded and evil they are. they have no sense of dignity or decency. they couldn't handle japanese soliders so they turned on unarmed civilians.

No,back then Nationalism was so strong that the Japanese thought if the American came they would get raped and massacred hence there were suicides in Okinawa,do you really think fighting to the death vs 2 cities destroyed,however an evil agenda to this is that U.S. wanted to show the Soviets how strong they were.The Kamikazes died for Japan,imagine that except all civilians did it...

[Yerroperil]

So what?

That was world War 2. There is enough of Historic Atrocities to go around.



Why is a white kid wasting his time living in WW2 for? Get a life.

But,Japan refuses to believe they did sh!t,instead of having nationalist vans saying how Commies and China are evil,Japan should tear down the Yasukuni shrine and repatriate those that were harmed by Japanese experiments...

[hapkido1996]

So what?

That was world War 2. There is enough of Historic Atrocities to go around.



Why is a white kid wasting his time living in WW2 for? Get a life.

I'm not even a history fan or a WWII buff, but I know enough to show the fallacies in KraterosHellas's hate-fueled, undereducated rhetoric.

Yes, there are plenty of atrocities to go around; that's my point. KraterosHellas is trying to make Japan out to be the innocent victim of US imperialistic, racist aggression, when anyone with a basic education can see that atrocities, wartime or otherwise, have no connection to race.

My comments were only intended to highlight his fallacies, not blame or insult Japan or Japanese people. If someone were insulting Japan in the way KraterosHellas is insulting the US, I'd be bringing up American atrocities.

Racism is stupid and people who spread it are, also.

[snapi]

U.S. Atomic tests on Bikini Atoll muhahahaha.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fb2...Ep65j3I.twitter

ha, these warfreak world police a.k.a. United States of America seem to be not contented with Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

[snapi]

These Americans = heroes mentality should stop.

Wikileaks will put them in their place.