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New Theory on Angkor, Who were the last Varman kings?
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post Feb 16 2012, 03:37 AM
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QUOTE (Leeporter @ Feb 16 2012, 03:31 PM) *
Yes, I am aware of those Kamaradeng XXX titles.
They have nothing to do with this word Kun Long. icon_smile.gif


Is not that the Thai liek to pronoud R to L? who say Ku Long is Thai word? why Ku Lung existed in Khmer inscription? ^^ you idiot like to claim Khmer word as Tai.. I had show you many time that you had loan and speak our language since you were our slave! ^^ and that even mention by your Thai people as well! ^^
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QUOTE (Leeporter @ Feb 16 2012, 04:26 PM) *
Yes, these Khmer retards claimed the unsolves mystery word "Kun Long" as their language while Khmer always used "Kamarateng" or "Kamaradeng" for their king/high ranking officers.

ha ha ha ... The French still didn't know what "Kun Long" means so they put it in their dictionary as "pre-angorian" word.

You know why they have to make it "pre-angorian" ? Becaue it doesn't fit their title "Kamaradeng"!!!

What a retard! ha ha ha . embarassedlaugh.gif


lol come on lee porter you "THAI" reach for straws much more than khmer does. preangkorian is taken from ancient inscriptions its not just wildy guessed like saying an ancient mandarin transliteration of a funan king means that they are tai without even knowing your own proto tai language. yea which one sounds more hilarious?

Thailand and its people are rediculously funny. I can pull up article after article showing how many words in central thai have a khmer root and you cant do $hit about it. your own people write papers and articles about tai migration the tai kings the borrowing from khmer culture so you throw your own people under the bus supposedly they are wrong after doing years of reasearch you pull han=khun out of your azz and claim tai speaking people were kings of funan.

and last but not least to sum up "thai" mentality lets create a new word to call ourselves and glob every single race mon khmer tais into THAI. then we can go about claiming an origin in every single southeast asians history. then lets reasearch ancient sites and claim we found "THAIS" origin the word we just created in 1900s.let the nationalism and nazism continue it just makes you guys look retarded and close minded.
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QUOTE (Leeporter @ Feb 16 2012, 04:35 AM) *
Yes, and Khmers used "Kamaladang XXX" for their king, while Tai used "Kun' and "Kun Luang"

It's very obvious and these Khmer retards just put Tai title of King into their "pre-angkorian" dictionary. embarassedlaugh.gif


Old Chinese already knew what was Khmer language. They transcribed Khmer 'Kamraten' as 'Kam Mun Tin'. If Funan kings really Khmer, then like you have said, the French must know this!!!
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QUOTE (SEAhistory @ Feb 16 2012, 03:34 PM) *
How do you know that they made up this word and not got it from inscriptions?


SEAhistory, let me ask you this.

Khmer used the word "Kamaladang XXX" for kings, right?

How could Kun Long or Kun Luang in Tai became "Kamaladang" you tell me. embarassedlaugh.gif

This word is an unsolved word. What they knew is that it refer to the king, so they put it as "pre-angkorian" word and has no explanation how it became Kamaladang. embarassedlaugh.gif

While look at the other side, this title Kun and Kun Luang was used by Tai-speaking people since I don't know when. You can found it in every legends/chronicle of Tai-speaking people.


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QUOTE (LoveIsAllAround @ Feb 16 2012, 03:36 AM) *
LOL, who the fuk was him?

Is that Chinese word, KIT MOW?


Yes, it is Chinese word I guess, allthough it could have been Khmer word. Wiki translates it as Mon-Khmer.

But the Chinese spoke of the Kit Mow people coming from South-cambodia, conquerring the original inhabitants and centuries later, the original inhabitants conquerred land back.

So, according to you the original inhabitants were Mon people (I say Malay people), but whom were the Kit Mow??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

QUOTE (LoveIsAllAround @ Feb 16 2012, 03:39 AM) *
Old Chinese already knew what was Khmer language. They transcribed Khmer 'Kamraten' as 'Kam Mun Tin'. If Funan kings really Khmer, then like you have said, the French must know this!!!


Did the French ever say the rulers were not Khmer?
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QUOTE (LoveIsAllAround @ Feb 16 2012, 03:39 PM) *
Old Chinese already knew what was Khmer language. They transcribed Khmer 'Kamraten' as 'Kam Mun Tin'. If Funan kings really Khmer, then like you have said, the French must know this!!!


Yes, 'Kam Mun Tin' and "Kun Long" are 2 different things.

The Kun and Kun Long recorded by Chinese was defintetly the Tai words for king. embarassedlaugh.gif
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QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Feb 16 2012, 04:37 AM) *
Is not that the Thai liek to pronoud R to L? who say Ku Long is Thai word? why Ku Lung existed in Khmer inscription? ^^ you idiot like to claim Khmer word as Tai.. I had show you many time that you had loan and speak our language since you were our slave! ^^ and that even mention by your Thai people as well! ^^


LOL dumbass, Angkorean seem to be Cham-Malayo-Indians (from Cham) or Mon-Malayo-Jnidian (from Siam). Those slaves were all Khmers. Thanks. beerchug.gif
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QUOTE (LoveIsAllAround @ Feb 16 2012, 04:39 PM) *
Old Chinese already knew what was Khmer language. They transcribed Khmer 'Kamraten' as 'Kam Mun Tin'. If Funan kings really Khmer, then like you have said, the French must know this!!!


wow love the chinese alraedy knew what was khmer language but suprisingly they didnt know these funan kings were part of the tai race? im sure the chinese interacted with the real tai peoples all the time back in china but they never recorded hey this man is a tai person we know this because we know and contact with the proto tai race all the time. unless the tai people were so nomadic that chinese didnt even care about them?

i never thought about that how do the chinese know what was the khmer language but they dont know what a tai person is compared to a funan khmer person is? i guess the chinese werent fascinated with how a small group of tais magically jumped about 600 miles south leaving all their people behind to magically become funan kings.WTF.gif
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Chad, thank you for bringing your "pre-angkorian" dictionary of the word "Kun Luang" to show us.

It's quite hilarious to know that Khmer put Tai word into their "pre-angkorian" dictionary ha ha ha .. embarassedlaugh.gif

I got to go picking up my kid back from school now. Talk to you guys later. ha ha ha embarassedlaugh.gif


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QUOTE (Leeporter @ Feb 16 2012, 03:39 AM) *
SEAhistory, let me ask you this.

Khmer used the word "Kamaladang XXX" for kings, right?

How could Kun Long or Kun Luang in Tai became "Kamaladang" you tell me. embarassedlaugh.gif

This word is an unsolved word. What they knew is that it refer to the king, so they put it as "pre-angkorian" word and has no explanation how it became Kamaladang. embarassedlaugh.gif

While look at the other side, this title Kun and Kun Luang was used by Tai-speaking people since I don't know when. You can found it in every legends/chronicle of Tai-speaking people.




Well, Ladang is a very widely used Khmer name that comes from Pnomh Penh, Kam is probably from Kron or Kampuchea

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QUOTE (Leeporter @ Feb 16 2012, 03:45 PM) *
Chad, thank you for bringing your "pre-angkorian" dictionary of the word "Kun Luang" to show us.

It's quite hilarious to know that Khmer put Tai word into their "pre-angkorian" dictionary ha ha ha .. embarassedlaugh.gif

I got to go picking up my kid back from school now. Talk to you guys later. ha ha ha embarassedlaugh.gif

okay when you come back you can enjoys with this song: kekekeke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpttc5txMAM...feature=related

Chaiyor` Khmer empire! ^^
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QUOTE (SEAhistory @ Feb 16 2012, 04:37 AM) *
Ancient Chenla is Funan. Didnt I show you before? Ancient Mon is waht was in the area before 550 Ad, before Isanavarman kicked some Mon @$$!!!!!!!!


LOL those in Isan in Chenla period were Khmer?
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QUOTE (LoveIsAllAround @ Feb 16 2012, 03:42 AM) *
LOL dumbass, Angkorean seem to be Cham-Malayo-Indians (from Cham) or Mon-Malayo-Jnidian (from Siam). Those slaves were all Khmers. Thanks. beerchug.gif


Uhh no, Champa is Borneo/Khmer, Angkor is Khmer, and the slaves were Mon and later Thai peoples, allthough Angkoreans enslaved some of their own population as well..
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QUOTE (LoveIsAllAround @ Feb 16 2012, 03:49 PM) *
LOL those in Isan in Chenla period were Khmer?


Who were live in Isan now? Mon or Khmer? kkekekeke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6NoCCGugEo...856F6C6EE3BA9D7

and look at this Farang!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TQlwSTs3UE...feature=related

It sound Isan or other part of Thailand?? It seem they Enjoys RamVong so much!!! ^^

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QUOTE (chadwarden @ Feb 16 2012, 04:43 AM) *
wow love the chinese alraedy knew what was khmer language but suprisingly they didnt know these funan kings were part of the tai race? im sure the chinese interacted with the real tai peoples all the time back in china but they never recorded hey this man is a tai person we know this because we know and contact with the proto tai race all the time. unless the tai people were so nomadic that chinese didnt even care about them?

i never thought about that how do the chinese know what was the khmer language but they dont know what a tai person is compared to a funan khmer person is? i guess the chinese werent fascinated with how a small group of tais magically jumped about 600 miles south leaving all their people behind to magically become funan kings.WTF.gif


They described all non-Chinese as barbarians, that's all. Have you ever heard 'Bai Yue'? They didn't even care so they grouped many different ethnics as one. icon_smile.gif
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QUOTE (LoveIsAllAround @ Feb 16 2012, 03:49 AM) *
LOL those in Isan in Chenla period were Khmer?


The inhabitants must surely have been Mon, I also think Isanavarman used some Mon sculpturists, since some influence form Mon is seen in Khmer artifacts, but with the rulers the Khmer ethinicty cam in the area. Thats why there still are Surin-Khmer people.
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QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Feb 16 2012, 04:53 AM) *
Who were live in Isan now? Mon or Khmer? kkekekeke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6NoCCGugEo...856F6C6EE3BA9D7


So, Khmer created this?
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Noone still could answer me whom is Kit Mow?

Also, I would like to know why people think SriVijaya was Mon and not Malay. Wasn't the Lingua Franca used by Srivijaya Malay??? How does that relate to Mon?

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So, Khmer created this?


What year and where was it built?

Name and source please, then I will tell you who built it.
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QUOTE (SEAhistory @ Feb 16 2012, 04:55 AM) *
The inhabitants must surely have been Mon, I also think Isanavarman used some Mon sculpturists, since some influence form Mon is seen in Khmer artifacts, but with the rulers the Khmer ethinicty cam in the area. Thats why there still are Surin-Khmer people.


What proof makes you are so confident say that Chenla rulers were Khmer ethnic?
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QUOTE (SEAhistory @ Feb 16 2012, 04:59 AM) *
Noone still could answer me whom is Kit Mow?

Also, I would like to know why people think SriVijaya was Mon and not Malay. Wasn't the Lingua Franca used by Srivijaya Malay??? How does that relate to Mon?



What year and where was it built?

Name and source please, then I will tell you who built it.


Mueang Fa Daet Song Yang, an ancient site in Kalasin province, Thailand
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