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US will pressure UN to revise "Taiwan" interpretation
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post Aug 13 2007, 04:20 AM
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US to pressure UN, official says


http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/arc...8/13/2003373914

STAFF WRITER, WITH CNA
Monday, Aug 13, 2007, Page 3

The US will pressure the UN Secretary-General's office to revise its interpretation of Taiwan as part of China, Taiwan's second-most senior diplomat in the US said.

David Huang (黃偉峰), Taiwan's deputy representative to the US, told an audience of overseas Taiwanese and Chinese on Saturday that the US had protested UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's interpretation claim that of UN resolution 2758 identified Taiwan as a part of the People's Republic of China (PRC). Huang said that the Secretary-General's office must issue a correction on this matter to avoid further confusion, adding that Washington had pledged to continue pressuring the office until it issued a correction.

Huang was speaking at the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office in Washington at the invitation of the Baltimore-Washington branch of the Global Alliance for Democracy and Peace. It was the first time Huang has spoken to a group of overseas Taiwanese and Chinese since assuming the post of deputy representative in June.

Almost 100 people turned out for the event.

Huang gave a speech titled "the future of Taiwanese-American relations."

Huang said China had launched an all-out assault against Taiwan using international organizations as a battle ground.

China's tactics are why Taiwan must apply to enter the UN again this year.

Huang said that UN Resolution 2758 only replaced Chiang Kai-shek's (蔣介石) Republic of China government with the Beijing government as the representative of China, but did not address the issue of Taiwan's status at all. The UN Secretary-General has simply said that Taiwan is part of China on no basis, he said.

"[If] all China needs to do is use 2758 to claim Taiwan, all arguments are moot," Huang said.

The WHO considers Taiwan a "non-sovereign regional member" because of pressure from China, which has also used its clout as the world's biggest cotton-producing country to demand international cotton trade organizations expel Taiwan as a precondition for including Beijing.

Taiwan needs to show the world that it is independent, Huang said. If Taiwan does not, this will amount to a passive admission to China's claims, Huang said.
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post Aug 13 2007, 12:25 PM
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Pressure all you want, the UN is an utterly worthless organization. China wouldn't even be in the UN if not for our veto power.

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post Aug 13 2007, 07:37 PM
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This is contradictory.
Why would US asks the UN to revise that Taiwan doesn't belong to PRC when it contradicts the world-wide recognized "One China Policy"?

PRC already recognized as the legit government of CHina by US, UN and most of nations. So, under "One CHina Policy", Taiwan should belong to PRC.

US only promised no forceful unification. So, why is it now balking Taiwan doesn't belong? It's totally contradictory.



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post Aug 14 2007, 07:20 AM
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UN resolution 2758 stipulate that PRC replaces ROC as the legitimate representative of China. It doesn't say China minus TW and the islands, but China, as it was when ROC was the representative.

In any court of law, change of representative does not add or diminish the parties rights and responsibility under the previous arrangements, unless it was stipulated in agreement at the time when representation changes.

So, in short, this is another shameless attempt by TIers to muddy the water. Not that we don't know TIers are shameless already.
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post Aug 14 2007, 08:23 AM
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Taiwan needs to adopt a Taiwanese language to actually be seperate from China.



Taiwanese Man: "When will you Chinese Taiwanese accept our language?"

I would consider that you Chinsese Taiwanese or Han Taiwanese adopt a true Taiwanese language that way you can truely distance yourselves from being a part of China. If you don't speak Chinese, then how can they rightfully claim to be Chinese and a part of China?

I would think that fusing the remanding Taiwanese true languages into a single language would be the best course of action in creating a true and unified Taiwan.

You might also want to create an ethnic population restriction on the Han living in Taiwan that make up the majority to having only one offspring per family and a decree on the native Taiwanese to increase their population ten fold or more by the end of this decade. Perhaps even allow Chinese/Taiwanese interbreeding to permit as a growwing trend to further Taiwanize the Chinese of Taiwan.

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post Aug 14 2007, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(Type98G @ Aug 14 2007, 07:20 AM) [snapback]3133551[/snapback]
UN resolution 2758 stipulate that PRC replaces ROC as the legitimate representative of China. It doesn't say China minus TW and the islands, but China, as it was when ROC was the representative.


"One-China" Policy means CHina+Taiwan(taiwain will not recognized as independent), it has been adopted by US and most nations even thought UN resolution 2758 didn't specify. Why the heck US now ask UN to change, it doesn't make sense. Maybe that's a lie from the taiwanese paper?

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post Aug 14 2007, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(Dark_Goku @ Aug 14 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]3133699[/snapback]
Taiwan needs to adopt a Taiwanese language to actually be seperate from China.


They already have. They speak taiwanese local language instead of mandarin so nobody can undersatnd them. laugh.gif
btw, just a reminder, they have no seat under the UN. At least not yet.
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post Aug 14 2007, 04:18 PM
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China has the ultimate right to veto any resolution in the UN, so any attempt of Taiwan to use the UN to claim or declare independence is a moot point, because China will just veto whatever resolution that's in favor of Taiwan independence.

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post Aug 15 2007, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(lilzz @ Aug 14 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]3134000[/snapback]
They already have. They speak taiwanese local language instead of mandarin so nobody can undersatnd them. laugh.gif
btw, just a reminder, they have no seat under the UN. At least not yet.


taiwanse = minnan dialect, which is chinese. there are mainlands living in fujian who understand "taiwanese"
heck, i speak mandarin and teochew, which is in the minnan class, and i understand "taiwanese" to a limited extent because some words and sounds are the same.
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post Aug 16 2007, 02:52 AM
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um. no
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post Aug 17 2007, 09:34 PM
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Taiwanese is not chinese. Taiwan has their own language, culture, and fashion. All different from any other country.

If the foreign country of mainland china wants to trace their heritage, then you can trace your heritage back to india, where the first Han race originated from. You will have better luck trying to unify with India instead.
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