Japanese store in China attacked during demonstrat Options

[Ogumo]

Its easy for you to say to tell us all to forgive an forget, but the kinda of dishonour your punk @$$ millitary pigs did in the past isnt fair game.

This does not excuse the actions of these criminal chinese toward these people. You fail to realize that.

[Adee]

Bare in mind the people working in that store are mostly Chinese, they're going to have a hard time cleaning up the mess for nothing. Peaceful protest is a good thing but not when they start causing damage.

[khu91x]

Its easy for you to say to tell us all to forgive an forget, but the kinda of dishonour your punk @$$ millitary pigs did in the past isnt fair game.

This does not excuse the actions of these criminal chinese toward these people. You fail to realize that.

It doesn't excuse actions of criminal chinese , but I don't think you should be one to speak of that. I don't have a problem with any other country that asks chinese to apologize but not you. Because other countries actually acknowledge and did something about there crimes and made up for it. You on the other hand are just being a hypocrite.( I refer to you to Japan.)

[chynagongju]

Its easy for you to say to tell us all to forgive an forget, but the kinda of dishonour your punk @$$ millitary pigs did in the past isnt fair game.

This does not excuse the actions of these criminal chinese toward these people. You fail to realize that.

It doesn't excuse actions of criminal chinese , but I don't think you should be one to speak of that. I don't have a problem with any other country that asks chinese to apologize but not you. Because other countries actually acknowledge and did something about there crimes and made up for it. You on the other hand are just being a hypocrite.( I refer to you to Japan.)

Derr...wouldn't it be hypocritical of China to NOT apologize on their own? Like I said before, China is asking for an apology of a wrongdoing that Japan did, and Japan won't give it to China. Now, on a much much smaller scale, but the principle is the same, [Japan isn't even ASKING for one I think...] apologize when you're wrong. These people were clearly wrong.

[khu91x]

Its easy for you to say to tell us all to forgive an forget, but the kinda of dishonour your punk @$$ millitary pigs did in the past isnt fair game.

This does not excuse the actions of these criminal chinese toward these people. You fail to realize that.

It doesn't excuse actions of criminal chinese , but I don't think you should be one to speak of that. I don't have a problem with any other country that asks chinese to apologize but not you. Because other countries actually acknowledge and did something about there crimes and made up for it. You on the other hand are just being a hypocrite.( I refer to you to Japan.)

Derr...wouldn't it be hypocritical of China to NOT apologize on their own? Like I said before, China is asking for an apology of a wrongdoing that Japan did, and Japan won't give it to China. Now, on a much much smaller scale, but the principle is the same, [Japan isn't even ASKING for one I think...] apologize when you're wrong. These people were clearly wrong.

Like I said it is wrong and they should apologize. But doesn't the Japanese feel any embarassment/shame for asking for one and being a hypocrite? My main point is don't expect something from others that your not willing to do yourself. I don't think the Japanese care anyways , since it's not on their land. It's just making them resent the Chinese even more.

This post has been edited by khu91x: Apr 4 2005, 12:06 PM

[Kalee Flavour]

At least they didin't raped and killed the supermarket staff.

[chynagongju]

Its easy for you to say to tell us all to forgive an forget, but the kinda of dishonour your punk @$$ millitary pigs did in the past isnt fair game.

This does not excuse the actions of these criminal chinese toward these people. You fail to realize that.

It doesn't excuse actions of criminal chinese , but I don't think you should be one to speak of that. I don't have a problem with any other country that asks chinese to apologize but not you. Because other countries actually acknowledge and did something about there crimes and made up for it. You on the other hand are just being a hypocrite.( I refer to you to Japan.)

Derr...wouldn't it be hypocritical of China to NOT apologize on their own? Like I said before, China is asking for an apology of a wrongdoing that Japan did, and Japan won't give it to China. Now, on a much much smaller scale, but the principle is the same, [Japan isn't even ASKING for one I think...] apologize when you're wrong. These people were clearly wrong.

Like I said it is wrong and they should apologize. But doesn't the Japanese feel any embarassment/shame for asking for one and being a hypocrite? My main point is don't expect something from others that your not willing to do yourself. I don't think the Japanese care anyways , since it's not on their land. It's just making them resent the Chinese even more.

Did they ask for an apology? I never heard that part. I just said that China should be the "bigger person" and issue one on their own, setting an example for the Japanese that even though this is a very minor event compared to the Nanking Massacre, they apologized.

@Kalee_Flavour_______I think the supermarket staff was Chinese. They just smashed the store because it was Japanese.

[khu91x]

Its easy for you to say to tell us all to forgive an forget, but the kinda of dishonour your punk @$$ millitary pigs did in the past isnt fair game.

This does not excuse the actions of these criminal chinese toward these people. You fail to realize that.

It doesn't excuse actions of criminal chinese , but I don't think you should be one to speak of that. I don't have a problem with any other country that asks chinese to apologize but not you. Because other countries actually acknowledge and did something about there crimes and made up for it. You on the other hand are just being a hypocrite.( I refer to you to Japan.)

Derr...wouldn't it be hypocritical of China to NOT apologize on their own? Like I said before, China is asking for an apology of a wrongdoing that Japan did, and Japan won't give it to China. Now, on a much much smaller scale, but the principle is the same, [Japan isn't even ASKING for one I think...] apologize when you're wrong. These people were clearly wrong.

Like I said it is wrong and they should apologize. But doesn't the Japanese feel any embarassment/shame for asking for one and being a hypocrite? My main point is don't expect something from others that your not willing to do yourself. I don't think the Japanese care anyways , since it's not on their land. It's just making them resent the Chinese even more.

Did they ask for an apology? I never heard that part. I just said that China should be the "bigger person" and issue one on their own, setting an example for the Japanese that even though this is a very minor event compared to the Nanking Massacre, they apologized.

@Kalee_Flavour_______I think the supermarket staff was Chinese. They just smashed the store because it was Japanese.

Yeah I do agree with you they should just apologize since it was a racist demonstration and they should apologize to the owner of the store , so unfortunate lol. Alot of young people in China have a strong resentment for Japanese , and also because they are growing more suspiscious of Japanese agenda to revert to military imperialism. I really do hope the hate ends because it will only lead to war , but this is really up to the fate of the two nations.

[damahu69]

thousands participated in demonstration but only a handful engaged in riots.

perfectly normal. there are always mobs in a crowd, no need to get all worked up with that.

if you want to engage in china bashing or self-laothing, just do it. but please don't use this incident as an excuse, since it cheapens those protesters who participated in their own will and with fullest sincere.

they are also risking jail times. for those ignorant few who think China government staged this, let me tell you this: in China, the government doesn't like ANY protest for ANY cause. Since protestation itself amounts to a chellenge to the authority, the government considers any protest a threat that needs to be clamped down, and you know how a control freak China governmetn is.

[Ogumo]

Adee:

Peaceful protest is a good thing but not when they start causing damage.

This is my point exactly.

khu91x:

but I don't think you should be one to speak of that.

Well I certainly believe that I have the right to speak on that. Not only do I have this right. I will use it every chance that I get.

Because other countries actually acknowledge and did something about there crimes and made up for it.

Incorrect. Japan has contributed countless ODA to china since the 1950s. If this is not reparation I don't what is.

You on the other hand are just being a hypocrite

Not quite as hypicritical as china. Not this time.

But doesn't the Japanese feel any embarassment/shame for asking for one and being a hypocrite?

Why the hell should we? You said it yourself an appology was in order.

I don't think the Japanese care anyways , since it's not on their land

It's the principle comrade. It's principle...

It's just making them resent the Chinese even more.

The chinese only have their lack of self control to blame.

chynagongju:

Derr...wouldn't it be hypocritical of China to NOT apologize on their own? Like I said before, China is asking for an apology of a wrongdoing that Japan did, and Japan won't give it to China. Now, on a much much smaller scale, but the principle is the same, [Japan isn't even ASKING for one I think...] apologize when you're wrong. These people were clearly wrong.

I honestly do appreciate your efforts here. Anyway appology from the chinese government will not matter. This was not the government's doing.

Kalee Flavour:

At least they didin't raped and killed the supermarket staff.

Well not this time. Who can say for certain what they will do next?

This post has been edited by Ogumo: Apr 4 2005, 01:21 PM

[damahu69]

well I am just glad they didn't hunt down and kill some japanese like what happened in Detroit during 80s when lots american autoworkers lost their jobs because of japanese imports.

[Ogumo]

Oh yeah! I almost forgot about that ridiculous scene. Thank you for reminding me.

[chynagongju]

thousands participated in demonstration but only a handful engaged in riots.

perfectly normal. there are always mobs in a crowd, no need to get all worked up with that.

if you want to engage in china bashing or self-laothing, just do it. but please don't use this incident as an excuse, since it cheapens those protesters who participated in their own will and with fullest sincere.

they are also risking jail times. for those ignorant few who think China government staged this, let me tell you this: in China, the government doesn't like ANY protest for ANY cause. Since protestation itself amounts to a chellenge to the authority, the government considers any protest a threat that needs to be clamped down, and you know how a control freak China governmetn is.

Of course, not blaming the whole situation all all who were protesting or demonstrating, just those who participated in the breaking in of the store. They should be punished for that. Just using the situation as an example of principle in terms of issuing apologies.

Did anyone say that the government staged this? I don't think so...not so far anyways.

I also have a big problem with that banner, which I blame on whoever made it and supported it. Ignorance.

[Mid-Night_Sun]

lol... prolly not the best course of action... ~_^ however, i think dis beef has gone down ALOT. i mean its jus a store...i think dey used to do a liiitttllleee worse things then break some windows...plus it duznt happen as often. least not here lol.

[Sae]

If the current japanese government can stop doing this stupid whitewashing thing and dump their "samurai" spirit, everything will be fine, and clearly stupid actions like this will not happen anymore...

[Ogumo]

^ Right. Put all the blame on japan. It's japan that took these people by the hand and forced them to riot. Give me a break.

[khu91x]

^ Right. Put all the blame on japan. It's japan that took these people by the hand and forced them to riot. Give me a break.

Let me ask you a question , do you think Japan is the source of the problem , Or is it just a coincidence in Asia they hate Japanese for no reason?

[Sae]

^ Right. Put all the blame on japan. It's japan that took these people by the hand and forced them to riot. Give me a break.

Right. IF the japanese government DIDN'T deny what occured during WWII. do you really think people will come upp with these stupid riots? give ME a break.

[Ogumo]

^ Right. Put all the blame on japan. It's japan that took these people by the hand and forced them to riot. Give me a break.

Let me ask you a question , do you think Japan is the source of the problem , Or is it just a coincidence in Asia they hate Japanese for no reason?

How is japan the source of the problem when it is the chinese such as these that we just read about having a lack of control?

Sae:

When it comes to koreans I really can't say.

[khu91x]

^ Right. Put all the blame on japan. It's japan that took these people by the hand and forced them to riot. Give me a break.

Let me ask you a question , do you think Japan is the source of the problem , Or is it just a coincidence in Asia they hate Japanese for no reason?

How is japan the source of the problem when it is the chinese such as these that we just read about having a lack of control?

Sae:

When it comes to koreans I really can't say.

Ah I see ,okay but lets not focus on the attack of the store , we all know a few guys got heated and overreacted. So I wanna ask do you think they protest out of lack of self control also?