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 May 1 2009, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(Tav6 @ Apr 30 2009, 02:55 PM) [snapback]4213750[/snapback] BS the ao dai was derived from ao thu than not your qipao what does ao thu look like? |
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May 1 2009, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(meitoufu @ May 1 2009, 03:37 PM) [snapback]4215345[/snapback] what does ao thu look like? 
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May 2 2009, 02:32 AM
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   we like PINK dontcha'now |
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May 2 2009, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(Tav6 @ Apr 30 2009, 01:55 PM) [snapback]4213750[/snapback] BS the ao dai was derived from ao thu than not your qipao Of course not Qipao. AS I mentioned Qipao is a westernized invention and have some reference from Manju's Qizhuang I think if I wanted to make some conclusion I would do some research first. So I don't say the ancient burmanese costume was derived from Hanfu although really very similiar. now it's ur aodai's origin from wiki: In Vietnamese, the word áo dài was applied to various garments historically, including the áo ngũ thân, a 19th century aristocratic gown influenced by Manchu Chinese fashions. BTW ao is a chinese origin word. 
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May 4 2009, 05:02 PM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 15,271 Joined: 28-October 02 From: Universe |
 Philippine costumes- Some of the costumes reflect Asian origins.           
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May 4 2009, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(truthstilltruth @ May 2 2009, 12:42 AM) [snapback]4215922[/snapback] Of course not Qipao. AS I mentioned Qipao is a westernized invention and have some reference from Manju's Qizhuang I think if I wanted to make some conclusion I would do some research first. So I don't say the ancient burmanese costume was derived from Hanfu although really very similiar. now it's ur aodai's origin from wiki: In Vietnamese, the word áo dài was applied to various garments historically, including the áo ngũ thân, a 19th century aristocratic gown influenced by Manchu Chinese fashions. BTW ao is a chinese origin word. LMAo of course you chinese would trust winki an unreliable source for your info because it gives the credit to the chinese Next ... try me again
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May 5 2009, 01:26 AM
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that wiki was edited by chinese people, do you know that?
BTW the word áo in Vietnamese is a generic word used to refer to any garment worn in the upper body. The word "ao" in Chinese is only used for a specific cloth design, not a generic word for garment worn in upper body. I wonder who borrowed from whom. 
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May 5 2009, 04:36 AM
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Thai costume in Loykratong festival held in my university.
 
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May 5 2009, 05:17 AM
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QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ May 5 2009, 01:26 AM) [snapback]4220188[/snapback] that wiki was edited by chinese people, do you know that? BTW the word áo in Vietnamese is a generic word used to refer to any garment worn in the upper body. The word "ao" in Chinese is only used for a specific cloth design, not a generic word for garment worn in upper body. I wonder who borrowed from whom. "Ao": prefer to women's clothes in chinese "Pao":prefer to men's clothes in chinese(I think we can claim it is our original words, because today a lot of TB still have very similiar clothes and for example bhutanese call their men's clothes "Go") And do u think every word of vietnamese borrowed from Chinese should keep its own meaning? Chinese mislead others? Do u need me do ur a favor to find the command made by ur king which forbidded all of the viet ladies to wear skirts? Don't u think a country like vietnam living in the hot weather but always want to wear more is strange? Don't tell me ur theory about viets origined from Zhejiang, The aboriginals there liked naked body according to the history record. Give Aodai's credit to Manju and they are worth it. 
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May 5 2009, 04:58 PM
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May 5 2009, 05:17 PM
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May 5 2009, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(truthstilltruth @ May 5 2009, 03:17 AM) [snapback]4220364[/snapback] "Ao": prefer to women's clothes in chinese "Pao":prefer to men's clothes in chinese(I think we can claim it is our original words, because today a lot of TB still have very similiar clothes and for example bhutanese call their men's clothes "Go") "Ao" refers to upper garment in general in Vietnamese. Even man's shirt are called áo. This is called an "áo" in Vietnamese  The thing that this girl wears is also called an "áo"  As I know '"ao" in Chinese refer to a short coat. QUOTE And do u think every word of vietnamese borrowed from Chinese should keep its own meaning? probably not but when a word is borrowed, its meaning is usually narrowed down rather than widened.  Linguistic lesson for you there.QUOTE Chinese mislead others? Do u need me do ur a favor to find the command made by ur king which forbidded all of the viet ladies to wear skirts? Because pants cover and secure women's legs better That's why some Nguyễn king decreed skirt to be inappropriate. QUOTE Don't u think a country like vietnam living in the hot weather but always want to wear more is strange? What are you trying to say? People in Vietnam can't wear pants because the weather is hot? Don't Viet men always wear pants? Don't Vietnamese now wear pants like Westerns people? BTW the original áo tứ thân of Vietnam had 3 layers. Áo dài had only two layers. That's a reduction of one layer. Speaking of hot weather, the climate in North Vietnam and North Central Vietnam is about the same as the climate in Guangdong, Guangxi, and Fujian of China. QUOTE Give Aodai's credit to Manju and they are worth it. can't, because they didn't come from the Manchu The traditional dress of the Vietnamese ethnic in China look similar to áo dài, only that they have 2 flaps in the front, similar to áo tứ thân      And as I know, these ethnic Vietnamese have been to China before the Manchu took power. Today some Vietnamese áo dài still have two flaps in the front like the Vietnamese ethnic in China.      ^^^ Compare those above to the "original" Manchu dress       And this is the áo dài version with skirt (called áo tứ thân or áo ngũ thân) that the Viet had been wearing for like 1000 years, long before the Manchu rose to power in China. It has the front flaps and back flap split at wait length and a short collar.  and a short collar  ^ Replacing that the skirt in dress with pants and you have áo dài. QUOTE Don't tell me ur theory about viets origined from Zhejiang, The aboriginals there liked naked body according to the history record. You're getting insecure again just like higher said You always fear of Vietnamese claiming China's land even though no Viet would even care to mention this in an argument like this. Your insecurity just go way beyond the line.
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May 5 2009, 10:29 PM
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@ truth
"ao" litterally means "shirt" in Vietnamese, not dress, not pant, it's "shirt" "dai" means long, so ao dai means "long shirt", not long dress, not long pant 
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May 17 2009, 09:02 PM
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Nov 17 2011, 08:32 PM
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Nov 18 2011, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ May 5 2009, 09:26 PM)  probably not but when a word is borrowed, its meaning is usually narrowed down rather than widened. Linguistic lesson for you there.I agree, that makes sense. QUOTE (ltk @ May 5 2009, 11:29 PM) @ truth "ao" litterally means "shirt" in Vietnamese, not dress, not pant, it's "shirt" "dai" means long, so ao dai means "long shirt", not long dress, not long pant Wow, thanks, now I know what ao dai means |
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Nov 18 2011, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE (stickr1ce @ Nov 18 2011, 09:37 PM) I agree, that makes sense. Wow, thanks, now I know what ao dai means ditto! thank you lkt for your explanation |
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Nov 18 2011, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE (507bro @ Sep 10 2007, 09:15 PM) who can spot miss lao    hm what was the occasion, there is some miao headress in the back along with some in tradtional outfits but these are chinese miaos not the ones from laos |
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