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Vietnamese people are lost han chinese ?
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post Nov 1 2005, 12:39 PM
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i personally thinks that all asian from the lower part of asia is decendent of the chinese ppls because we we were in china before where were moved down to the lower part of asia so when we develop our own country we became that....

for me i think i'm a little chinses..since my last name is chinses cuz i don't see a lot of hmong ppls with my last name...
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post Nov 1 2005, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE (neinei @ Nov 1 2005, 10:32 AM)
viet and han are different, but viet can be considered a lost yeuh tribe that never assimiliated into the Han

as for viet being cambodian, NO...we are in noway related to them, we didnt even have contact with them since Champa was blocking our way til 1300's, but i have done some research, and i see alot of cambodians say that china and and cambodia are long lost blood brothers biggrin.gif
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no khmer would say that $hit, we have our own identity and history, we dont need to leetch on to the chinese so we have something to glorify about. stop making up bull$hit, the people that would say those things are sino khmers. if you want to be chinese then go ahead neinei but dont bring khmer people into your poor excuse for an argument.

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post Nov 1 2005, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (caterina_xc @ Nov 1 2005, 12:39 PM)
i personally thinks that all asian from the lower part of asia is decendent of the chinese ppls because we we were in china before where were moved down to the lower part of asia so when we develop our own country we became that....

for me i think i'm a little chinses..since my last name is chinses cuz i don't see a lot of hmong ppls with my last name...
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hahahaha, are you stupid or something?
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post Nov 1 2005, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE (bandsoulja @ Nov 1 2005, 12:53 PM)
QUOTE (caterina_xc @ Nov 1 2005, 12:39 PM)
i personally thinks that all asian from the lower part of asia is decendent of the chinese ppls because we we were in china before where were moved down to the lower part of asia so when we develop our own country we became that....

for me i think i'm a little chinses..since my last name is chinses cuz i don't see a lot of hmong ppls with my last name...
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hahahaha, are you stupid or something?
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He does not know that in Human Evolution, people travel from Africa to South
Asia first, then travel northward to China later. He is actually ignorant rather
than stupid . He need some guidance and courage rather than to be blamed.
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post Nov 1 2005, 01:23 PM
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What is so good about Viet Nam culture or history that the Chinese want to claim it? There got to be something that people want. What is it?
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post Nov 1 2005, 01:24 PM
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han evolved from north , cambodian evolved from south , thai and laos migrated from southern china and moved west.

uhhh so viet just appeared out of nowhere? icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 1 2005, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 01:23 PM)
What is so good about Viet Nam culture or history that the Chinese want to claim it? There got to be something that people want. What is it?
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you know what we want? we want to remain unified and stay strong as one. you guys isolating yourselves is plain selfish to me , just like those taiwanese seperatist. why even go down that road instead of contribute to us as a whole together?
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post Nov 1 2005, 01:27 PM
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this guy posted similar in the korea chat. his first statements lack authority and maturity
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post Nov 1 2005, 01:31 PM
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theres also a identical thread on chinahistoryforum.com

http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?showtopic=7396

Vietnamese people are lost han chinese ?
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post Nov 1 2005, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE (DavidChen @ Nov 1 2005, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 01:23 PM)
What is so good about Viet Nam culture or history that the Chinese want to claim it? There got to be something that people want. What is it?
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you know what we want? we want to remain unified and stay strong as one. you guys isolating yourselves is plain selfish to me , just like those taiwanese seperatist. why even go down that road instead of contribute to us as a whole together?
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China is now trying to reclaim Viet Nam by claiming that Viet Nam culture, people and history is Chinese from the start to now. Is this really the history of Viet Nam and China or just you people, a small minority.

Most Chinese people are good people who mind their own business and not trying to be greedy and claiming everything is their. Is this the greed of the Chinese people or it is just you, trouble-makers, a small minority.
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post Nov 1 2005, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 01:33 PM)
QUOTE (DavidChen @ Nov 1 2005, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 01:23 PM)
What is so good about Viet Nam culture or history that the Chinese want to claim it? There got to be something that people want. What is it?
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you know what we want? we want to remain unified and stay strong as one. you guys isolating yourselves is plain selfish to me , just like those taiwanese seperatist. why even go down that road instead of contribute to us as a whole together?
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China is now trying to reclaim Viet Nam by claiming that Viet Nam culture, people and history is Chinese from the start to now. Is this really the history of Viet Nam and China or just you people, a small minority.

Most Chinese people are good people who mind their own business and not trying to be greedy and claiming everything is their. Is this the greed of the Chinese people or it is just you, trouble-makers, a small minority.
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Having a bad history doesn't mean that one is not han chinese. It is just like taiwan's relationship with china now, they want to be a separate nation but the taiwanese are still han chinese in terms of culture, looks and language.

It could be that the han chinese doesn't know that the vietnamese are blood brothers ? Judging by so many similarities between han chinese and vietnamese - culture, looks, language etc. that china cannot share with other ethnic groups such as the mongolians or xinjiang people.

I remember somewhere that there was a chinese general with surname of "nguyen" who controlled the nam viet region after the tang dynasty collapsed (before the collapse, he was a chinese working for the government), are all those vietnamese with surname of "nguyen" his descendents ? Nguyen is the largest surname in vietnam.


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post Nov 1 2005, 01:50 PM
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Sure you can all be buddies biggthumpup.gif but just stay the hell away from Vietnam and dont come close to us...if you want to contact us then use the phone or any digital means...dont write us letter we dont wanna catch your cooties Talktohand.gif
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post Nov 1 2005, 01:54 PM
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Yes . Most Chinese think Chinese is Chinese, Vietnamese is Vietnamese .
Some Chinese like Chen wants to make history, to make the Chinese the
center of the world, if not the center of Asia.

Here's the answer to Chen's question:
The Vietnamese is not coming from nowhere.
The Vietnamese is in Vietnam since human traveled from Africa to Vietnam
hundred thousands of years ago, before they came to China.
Please, be educated by studying History of Human being on earth.

You have a strange idea in mind: "People should come from China."
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post Nov 1 2005, 02:00 PM
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davidchen is an embrrasment to all chinese people
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post Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE (CoDep @ Nov 1 2005, 01:54 PM)
The Vietnamese is not coming from nowhere.
The Vietnamese is in Vietnam since human traveled from Africa to Vietnam
hundred thousands of years ago, before they came to China.
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oh thanks , you explained everything!!!! lol icon_rolleyes.gif

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Please, be educated by studying History of Human being on earth.

You have a strange idea in mind: "People should come from China."


do you even know where some of your surnames come from?

Nguyễn: 阮
Trần: 陳
Lê (or occasionally among Vietnamese of Cantonese decent, Lại): 黎
Phạm: 范 (almost exclusively a northern surname)
The other nine most common names are as follows, in no particular order:

Ngô: 吳
Lư: 李
Đỗ: 杜
Vũ (in northern or central regions) or Vơ (in central or southern regions): 武
Hoàng (in northern or central regions) or Huỳnh (in central or southern regions): 黄
Phan (almost exclusively found in southern regions): 潘
Dương: 楊
Đao:
Đặng: 鄧
Vương: 王
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post Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM
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Why don't we ask where does China come from???
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post Nov 1 2005, 02:02 PM
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Vietnamese used to be written like Chinese!!
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post Nov 1 2005, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE (CoDep @ Nov 1 2005, 02:18 PM)
QUOTE (bandsoulja @ Nov 1 2005, 12:53 PM)
QUOTE (caterina_xc @ Nov 1 2005, 12:39 PM)
i personally thinks that all asian from the lower part of asia is decendent of the chinese ppls because we we were in china before where were moved down to the lower part of asia so when we develop our own country we became that....

for me i think i'm a little chinses..since my last name is chinses cuz i don't see a lot of hmong ppls with my last name...
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hahahaha, are you stupid or something?
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He does not know that in Human Evolution, people travel from Africa to South
Asia first, then travel northward to China later. He is actually ignorant rather
than stupid . He need some guidance and courage rather than to be blamed.
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Cate is a girl not a boy embarassedlaugh.gif2 but what she said does seem kinda crazy.gif
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post Nov 1 2005, 02:07 PM
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people actually take DavidChen for being serious <?> this ni-gga is a joke, he doesnt know jack sh!t. And should shut the fu-ck up cuz u know for sure u aint gonna talk sh!t to a Viet person in real life
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Q57 make this thread in the korean chat also, and it got closed why didnt they close down this thread
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