do they look australian aboriginal?? Options

[kermit_criminal]

ocrap is a fahg too. im more ami than you are. since you are from the south you are sort of a mix between southern melanesian and northern ami

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[DPSlock]

ocrap is a fahg too. im more ami than you are. since you are from the south you are sort of a mix between southern melanesian and northern ami

lol oh please...visayan is nowhere near as south as mindnao...

and according to graham theory this woman must really be melanesian..considering she's from the south

[kermit_criminal]

yes she is clearly melanesian, you can tell.

[kermit_criminal]

seriously though, ejay you have a southern inferiority complex. always talking trash about Luzon people. show your own pic, lets see how Ami you are

[DPSlock]

yes she is clearly melanesian, you can tell.

yes she looks so australoid compared to the average poor person in manila..

[DPSlock]

seriously though, ejay you have a southern inferiority complex. always talking trash about Luzon people. show your own pic, lets see how Ami you are

from my understanding its manila people who trash talk about southerners all the time....ocrap being the biggest one

and no i haven't trashed talk about the whole of luzon...just the manila area

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[kermit_criminal]

ocrap doen't count. he has identity issues.. and self-hate tendencies (like you)

[ocrapdm]

LOL what home...if they r the poores of the poor they would have no home,,,other then the slums of Manila

LOL ocrap how would u know if they were visayan if they were 5th generation...you know your maids r visayan cuz they speak in a visayan accent
hence since your maids r visayan u think the poor @$$ tagalogs r visayan because ur maids r

LOL so according to ocrap....all the people in slums r visayan when they don't even speak visayan or come from visayans...he is just assuming this because his maids r visayan...but given the fact those maids have a job with steady income i doubt they r the same people u see picking trash to eat in slums of manila

so just because blue collar workers in manila r visayan he automatically assumes the poor tagalogs r visayan...because he can't seem to differentiate blue collar workers from jobless bums

and he goes a step further by hinting that the rich chinese u see in manila gated neighborhoods r the tagalogs of manila...yes the tagalogs of manila r really the chinese...and the visayans r the papuans in manila...even though luzon people make up 50% of the population...and most visayan temp live in manila..not permanently...all the slums r visayans...because ocrap says so

Bisayans belong to BOTH the domestic helper / blue collar category and in the slums of Manila. Don't take this personally though. I'm just stating what is true. LOL How'd I know they were Visayans? Well, I've interviewed them and most of the answers are "Ako galing sa Samar", and so on so forth, mentioning the name of a Visayan island.

No where did I claim that. I just said that the rich and light-skinned native Filipinos tend to have more Chinese blood compared to the average Filipino. LOL

the australoidinaztion of manila happened after the austronesian expansion....mt pinatubo negritos moving into manila greatly changed the landscape of poor manila...im sure in the 1800s the poor of manila was not so australoid

Hahaha. And how can a population of roughly nomadic 1000 Aetas from Pinatubo ALTER THE ETHNIC LANDSCAPE of a metropolis that boasts of a population of 12,000,000?!?!?! Considering that only a minuscule of that 1000 Aeta population even went out of their mountainous homeland... and also considering the fact that Aetas can't stand living outside of their society and village ... your claims are COMPLETE CRAP AND COMPLETE $H!-T.

Luzon is Ami. Visayans are Australoidized Borneans. Mindanao is Borneanized Melanesians. End of story.

didn't you say ur mom was chinese...so no...she would have no ami blood if she was chinese like you claim
metro manila itself is kind of small in landscape..if you put that many negritos in such a confined space..it would make it seem like there r many

though metro manila has numerous austronesian inhabitants like non-australoid tagalog and visayans

30% of Ami genome even before Chinese went to Taiwan is similar to Southern Chinese.

And genetic research shows that most of the DNA of Pinoys (especially non-Luzon peoples) are NOWHERE LIKE that of the AMI genome! Only their Y-DNA are similar to Ami because of the Austronesian invaders!!!!!

from my understanding its manila people who trash talk about southerners all the time....ocrap being the biggest one

and no i haven't trashed talk about the whole of luzon...just the manila area

You said "Manila and the surrounding area". So that includes Pampanga. Hahaha.

Yep - that includes the Manila people who are fourth or fifth generation Visayans living in slums. Visayan people trash talk their own kind. Even in TV shows, it's the Manila-based Visayans who imitate and laugh pejoratively at FOB Visayans with accents.

Tagalogs wouldn't really care about Visayans whether they speak with a lilting accent or not...

And again, Hiligaynon and Kinaray-a come from Borneo, not DIRECTLY from Taiwan. So you couldn't claim to be Ami. Besides, have you even saw a TRUE AMI? A true Ami without Chinese blood will have strong Australoid (Proto-Ainuid) features because they themselves also have Australoid blood!

So whether you're an Ami or an Australoidized Bornean (i.e., Visayan), you still have Australoid blood. End.

both of you are fahgs.... ocrap doen't count. he has identity issues.. and self-hate tendencies (like you)

LOL. Totally NOT!!!

[martin_nuke]

the australoidinaztion of manila happened after the austronesian expansion....mt pinatubo negritos moving into manila greatly changed the landscape of poor manila...im sure in the 1800s the poor of manila was not so australoid

No the Australoidization is a long process dating back pre historic times even the 10 Datu Malay clan even intermarried with the Negritos who know maybe the Spaniards also intermarried with the Negritos and there were even documented cases were American Soldiers in Clarke and Subic intermarried also with the Zambales Negritos. Mount Pinatubo just erupted 20 years ago so this phenomena is not significant because they also returned to their homeland afterwards.

The bulk of the Negrito population is not even in Pampanga it is in Eastern Luzon where many Agta and Dumagat Negritos live and they are the ones who greatly affected the Australodization of the Philippines many years ago.

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[ocrapdm]

No the Australoidization is a long process dating back pre historic times even the 10 Datu Malay clan even intermarried with the Negritos who know maybe the Spaniards also intermarried with the Ati Negritos and there were even documented cases were American Soldiers in Clarke and Subic intermarried also with the Zambales Negritos. Mount Pinatubo just erupted 20 years ago so this phenomena is not significant because they also returned to their homeland afterwards.

The bulk of the Negrito population is not iven in Pampanga it is in Eastern Luzon were many Agta and Dumagat Negritos live and they are the ones who greatly affected tje Australodization of the Philippines many years ago.

Yep, and EJAY, note WHERE THOSE 10 DATU MALAYS FIRST LANDED and intermarried with the AYTAS? It's PANAY, right? Your homeland?

I say embrace your kin and stop denying them and their existence. Seriously, you got to love your brothers.

[DPSlock]

Bisayans belong to BOTH the domestic helper / blue collar category and in the slums of Manila. Don't take this personally though. I'm just stating what is true. LOL How'd I know they were Visayans? Well, I've interviewed them and most of the answers are "Ako galing sa Samar", and so on so forth, mentioning the name of a Visayan island.

No where did I claim that. I just said that the rich and light-skinned native Filipinos tend to have more Chinese blood compared to the average Filipino. LOL



Hahaha. And how can a population of roughly nomadic 1000 Aetas from Pinatubo ALTER THE ETHNIC LANDSCAPE of a metropolis that boasts of a population of 12,000,000?!?!?! Considering that only a minuscule of that 1000 Aeta population even went out of their mountainous homeland... and also considering the fact that Aetas can't stand living outside of their society and village ... your claims are COMPLETE CRAP AND COMPLETE $H!-T.

Luzon is Ami. Visayans are Australoidized Borneans. Mindanao is Borneanized Melanesians. End of story.



30% of Ami genome even before Chinese went to Taiwan is similar to Southern Chinese.

And genetic research shows that most of the DNA of Pinoys (especially non-Luzon peoples) are NOWHERE LIKE that of the AMI genome! Only their Y-DNA are similar to Ami because of the Austronesian invaders!!!!!



You said "Manila and the surrounding area". So that includes Pampanga. Hahaha.

Yep - that includes the Manila people who are fourth or fifth generation Visayans living in slums. Visayan people trash talk their own kind. Even in TV shows, it's the Manila-based Visayans who imitate and laugh pejoratively at FOB Visayans with accents.

Tagalogs wouldn't really care about Visayans whether they speak with a lilting accent or not...

And again, Hiligaynon and Kinaray-a come from Borneo, not DIRECTLY from Taiwan. So you couldn't claim to be Ami. Besides, have you even saw a TRUE AMI? A true Ami without Chinese blood will have strong Australoid (Proto-Ainuid) features because they themselves also have Australoid blood!

So whether you're an Ami or an Australoidized Bornean (i.e., Visayan), you still have Australoid blood. End.



LOL. Totally NOT!!!

western visayans have ancestry from both ami and back migration of ami who migrated to borneo from philippines

austronesian descended people in borneo

[DPSlock]

Yep, and EJAY, note WHERE THOSE 10 DATU MALAYS FIRST LANDED and intermarried with the AYTAS? It's PANAY, right? Your homeland?

I say embrace your kin and stop denying them and their existence. Seriously, you got to love your brothers.

nowhere was it recorded that the datu intermarried with ati...it was always stated that austronesians and atis lived seperately

lol besides....luzon has a much bigger negrito population

[ocrapdm]

western visayans have ancestry from both ami and back migration of ami who migrated to borneo from philippines

austronesian descended people in borneo

NNAAAAH.
ONLY BACK MIGRATION OF AMI - or more correctly called as the "Bornean migrants".

nowhere was it recorded that the datu intermarried with ati...it was always stated that austronesians and atis lived seperately

lol besides....luzon has a much bigger negrito population

They did marry each other. Otherwise, the inbreeeding between the families of the 10 Malay Datus would've resulted to genetic diseases. Oh well, there's a X-Linked Dystonia-Parkinsonism (Ilonggo name: Lubag) in Capiz, Panay. It's said that it's only in Capiz where the Datus refused to marry with the native Atis.

So unless you have this, I think you have Ati genes. Anyway, even those afflicted with Lubag look Australoid....

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Of course, Luzon has a bigger Negrito population... so I wonder where the Negrito population in Visayas went? Into your genes, I suppose?

[martin_nuke]

History don't lie

Peoples of Antique. The Karay-a people of Antique trace their roots to the Ati, who were the original settlers in Antique. Sometime in the 13th century, a group of seafaring people which the Ati call the Bisaya – probably the Bornean Malays referred to in the Maragtas legend – arrived and established their settlement along the shore. As they were by nature friendly and diplomatic people, they traded with the Sangleys or Chinese traders, exchanging their products for silk, porcelain, and iron farm implements.

Intermarriages between the Ati and the Bisaya produced a new breed of Karay-a. They lived on hunting, farming, fishing, pottery, weaving, and ship building. When the Spaniards came and colonized through the cross, those who refused Christianity took to the mountains. They were known as the Sulod, Bukidnon, Mundos or Montes. These names, however, were only labels for the non-Christians, to distinguish them from the Ati. The Karay-a today trace their roots to the Ati, the Bisaya, the Chinese, the Spaniards, the Americans, and the Japanese. This ethnic and racial mix makes the rich heritage of the Antiqueño.

http://www.binirayanfoundation.org/content/blogcategory/6/7/

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[DPSlock]

NNAAAAH.
ONLY BACK MIGRATION OF AMI - or more correctly called as the "Bornean migrants".



They did marry each other. Otherwise, the inbreeeding between the families of the 10 Malay Datus would've resulted to genetic diseases. Oh well, there's a X-Linked Dystonia-Parkinsonism (Ilonggo name: Lubag) in Capiz, Panay. It's said that it's only in Capiz where the Datus refused to marry with the native Atis.

So unless you have this, I think you have Ati genes. Anyway, even those afflicted with Lubag look Australoid....

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Of course, Luzon has a bigger Negrito population... so I wonder where the Negrito population in Visayas went? Into your genes, I suppose?

lol inbreeding if only 10 datus came...though in reality steady migrations came from both borneo and northern philippines..so no need to intermix with negritos...hence why there is still negritos visible in visayas...if intermixing occured there would be no negritos in visayas

lol the negrito population in visayas was never large...and FYI the atis r still there

[DPSlock]

History don't lie

LOL someone's opinion on his public blog does not count as fact....
in fact every kinaraya has his own opinion of origin of kinaraya...most kinaraya suggest that negritos lived in the mountains and the visayans lived in the lowlands
some western visayans did prob mix....though majority did not

[ocrapdm]

http://www.binirayanfoundation.org/content/blogcategory/6/7/
History don't lie

That seals it. Ejay is partly Negrito.

lol inbreeding if only 10 datus came...though in reality steady migrations came from both borneo and northern philippines..so no need to intermix with negritos...hence why there is still negritos visible in visayas...if intermixing occured there would be no negritos in visayas

lol the negrito population in visayas was never large...and FYI the atis r still there

10 Datus came for liberation from political persecution by the Borneo Sultan. Otherwise, they wouldn't go to the Visayas. So it's safe to assume that no other Bornean groups followed them because they were the only ten at odds with the Sultan. Got it?

So steady migrations came from NORTHERN PHILIPPINES, you say... Where in Northern Philippines is a place closer to the Visayas other than the TAGALOG REGION OF BATANGAS?

[DPSlock]

That seals it. Ejay is partly Negrito.




10 Datus came for liberation from political persecution by the Borneo Sultan. Otherwise, they wouldn't go to the Visayas. So it's safe to assume that no other Bornean groups followed them because they were the only ten at odds with the Sultan. Got it?

So steady migrations came from NORTHERN PHILIPPINES, you say... Where in Northern Philippines is a place closer to the Visayas other than the TAGALOG REGION OF BATANGAS?

LOL there were no tagalogs at the time when Philippines was first settled by austronesians

LOL there is another website claiming the borneans fought the ati when they first arrived...it was only after bartering with the negrito leader did the fighting stop
so you claiming fact from a lone website is nothing

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[kermit_criminal]

ejay just admit it. you are a tagalog. you are self hating

[DPSlock]

ejay just admit it. you are a tagalog. you are self hating

wtf im not tagalog...i don't have problems with luzon people...I just have problems with stuck up manilenos