Why do Korean American Women Look Less Attractive? Options

[tom2011]

According to International Society of Aesthetic Plastic Surgery Korea has the highest amount of plastic surgery per capita of any Asian nation:
http://www.asianplasticsurgeryguide.com/ne...ea-highest.html

Sure, it looks much worse than it is, due to so many Chinese and Japanese who get their surgeries done in Korea, who add to the numbers in Korea. Thirty percent of plastic surgeries done in Korea, are Chinese patients. Don't forget, China is doubling their plastic surgery numbers by twice, EVERY YEAR. At that astonishing rate, China will surpass Korea to become the plastic surgery capital of the world. The only reason why Chinese don't have that title now is that their income levels and lack of proper legal clinics and surgeons don't allow it. Don't think that Chinese are so much more virtuous and so natural that they won't consider surgery. The reason why Chinese like to get surgeries done in Korea is because of the effect of the Korean entertainment industry on the minds of the Chinese women. They also don't trust the quality of the Chinese hospitals and their surgeons, as the large percentage of procedures are back alley illegal procedures that lead to gruesome results that don't show up in official statistics. South Korea offers high quality medical facilities balanced out by affordable and reasonable costs staffed by experienced surgeons, which is a magnet for foreign medical tourists.

[tom2011]

ell the subject was about Gyopos looking different from Koreans and one of the reasons is that Gyopos almost never get plastic surgery as opposed to Koreans in Korea. The same is true for Chinese Americans.

I would say that's a flaw in logic, by the fact that America too also have a high rate of surgery. There is no evidence that Gyopos don't get them done, and that somehow they are not part of the general population in America.

[germ]

I have noticed that I can easily pick out the Gyopo women from the native Korean Koreans. Not only their dress and fashion, but Gyopo women also look different. The Gyopo women have let themselves go, tend to be more chunky, less interested in fashion, don't take care of their skin, and they have less focus on keeping themselves more assertive and even masculine. Coming from western cultures, this is not a surprise. But it is a total opposite to what it means to be a woman in South Korea where feminity of women is still highly valued and desired. I think that is why many Gyopo guys prefers to date and marry native Korean girls rather then Gyopo women. The Gyopo men as well have similar outlook in life as their Gyopo sisters. They tend to have short buzz hair cuts, tend to be chunkier with more weight problems , tend to dress up like African American ghetto style, and tend to be macho in behavior. Where as the native Korean guys tend to have long colored hair, tend to go for the more feminine looking fashion, and they have a totally different outlook in life including mannerism. They still believe in being chivalrous toward women that they date, who lap it up. I think the latter type is the type that women tend to prefer and these guys know it, so they give them what they want, and in turn get what they look for.

From what I observed from growing up in America, aesthetic life among Americans is poor. Part of it has to do with the fact that Americans don't put much care into making clothing. They just make what sells and don't pay much attention to aesthetics. This is less applicable to expensive designer brands, but most people can't afford entire wardrobes of those.

I think most people would dress their best if 1. they were used it, 2. they could afford it, and 3. they knew where to get nice clothes. In suburban USA, the town malls don't offer much in terms of nice clothing. People just wear the same sh!t everyone else wears because there isn't anything better. They grow up dressing drably, and when they're grown up, they dress drably.

[Captain Corea]

You sound like a typical ESL Asiaphile. Only western men would complain about how "masculine and assertive" western women are compared to "docile asian flowers". For some reason White men hate women who are independent and think that if they go to Asia they can find a weal Asian Flower. REAL Asian men can handle assertive, aggressive Asian women and do not complain about it.

As for Gyopo's looking different - I hate to break it to you, but Koreans do get a lot of plastic surgery. That's just reality, I'm not trying to offend anyone. Most Asian Americans do not get surgery because Asian plastic surgery is not common in America. And many Koreans are adopted so they can't ask their White parents for Eyelid surgery.

yet is was 'the white guy' who said that he found Korean American girls to look just fine and the Korean who was complaining (not exactly, but as to your point).

I'm guessing though that you really don't know much about Korea or its people. You've been called out as a troll, and I'm thnking that costume suits ya.

[KraterosHellas]

From what I observed from growing up in America, aesthetic life among Americans is poor. Part of it has to do with the fact that Americans don't put much care into making clothing. They just make what sells and don't pay much attention to aesthetics. This is less applicable to expensive designer brands, but most people can't afford entire wardrobes of those.

I think most people would dress their best if 1. they were used it, 2. they could afford it, and 3. they knew where to get nice clothes. In suburban USA, the town malls don't offer much in terms of nice clothing. People just wear the same sh!t everyone else wears because there isn't anything better. They grow up dressing drably, and when they're grown up, they dress drably.

that is so true. americans just can't compare with europeans or east asians in terms of aesthetics or beauty. this is reflected in their largely crude literature. by the standards of britain alone, america comes quite short. culture is not their strong point. it's the military and the economy that they're good at.

[KaptainAmeriKa]

Make up sure does change face. Up there is a good example. She doesn't even look same person after make up. :/

[fivers]

I;ve seen plenty of good looking korean american women at the local rub and tug parlor.

those are probably FOP's lol

Most Korean women are naturally beautiful. No matter how much surgery a Chinese person gets, they will never look Korean.



Take your own advice.

sorry to burst your bubble but me think you're exaggerating, lots of Korean women are not beautiful naturally, the same applies to Chinese women, beauty is not something that is very common, just like intelligence lol, btw there are more Chinese women on this earth thus it makes sense there are also more beautiful Chinese women then beautiful Korean women, btw I'm not a troll in case you want to counter response-attack me, lol

This post has been edited by fivers: May 20 2011, 07:20 AM

[WideAwake]

sorry to burst your bubble but me think you're exaggerating, lots of Korean women are not beautiful naturally, the same applies to Chinese women, beauty is not something that is very common, just like intelligence lol, btw there are more Chinese women on this earth thus it makes sense there are also more beautiful Chinese women then beautiful Korean women, btw I'm not a troll in case you want to counter response-attack me, lol

Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but you have not lived in Korea for many years, traveled there since you were a child up to college for every summer. YOU THINK you know what Korean women look like. YOU THINK you know the full range of Korean beauty. YOU DON'T.

As far as my comment about CHINESE people not looking Korean regardless of how much surgery they have, it's true. Just like a Korean person will not look Japanese no matter how much surgery they have or Thai. If you feel offended by that, you should examine how YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR OWN LOOKS, because that is the real problem and stop trashing Koreans for getting plastic surgery.

Koreans, for the most part, do not go bragging about how much better they look than other Asians. It was just trolls who kept saying that Korean beauty is fake that makes us take more pride in our appearance. Korean women are beautiful because they are raised to be beautiful by their mothers. They are raised to be beautiful by society which dictates how a lady should conduct herself with femininity and grace. It is a very loving society where people support one another for the most part. Koreans take their health very seriously. Many take excellent care of their bodies. Go to Korea and see how people dress. Not all will be super fashionable, but you will RARELY see anyone dressed junkily. Everyone tries to be presentable. Koreans take a lot of healthy pride in their appearance and it's a good thing because they feel that it's important to present themselves well. Even if you don't have a lot of money, you can still comb your hair and wash your face and put on some lotion.

Haters can hate all they want, but they will never realize what truly makes Korean women beautiful, their warm, loving hearts and NOT going on message boards accusing people of plastic surgery. One cannot be truly beautiful on the outside if they are not so in the inside. That's why Paris Hilton will never be a great beauty unlike Angelina Jolie or some other women.

Trolls just show how petty and ugly they are with their comments about Korean women getting surgery. Just because someone is beautiful does not mean that they had plastic surgery. I guess it's normal for me because I have seen LOTS of naturally beautiful people, Korean or otherwise, around me. Trolls are just sad with their petty arguments.

And so typical for a Chinese nationalist troll to bring the argument back to China in a thread that has NOTHING to do with China. You can doublemint. rolls eyes.

[WideAwake]

And what the hell is this obsession with Korean beauty by some other Asians? You don't see Koreans dissing going on other forums to diss Japanese and Chinese celebrities for doing plastic surgery.

[fivers]

Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but you have not lived in Korea for many years, traveled there since you were a child up to college for every summer. YOU THINK you know what Korean women look like. YOU THINK you know the full range of Korean beauty. YOU DON'T.

As far as my comment about CHINESE people not looking Korean regardless of how much surgery they have, it's true. Just like a Korean person will not look Japanese no matter how much surgery they have or Thai. If you feel offended by that, you should examine how YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR OWN LOOKS, because that is the real problem and stop trashing Koreans for getting plastic surgery.

Koreans, for the most part, do not go bragging about how much better they look than other Asians. It was just trolls who kept saying that Korean beauty is fake that makes us take more pride in our appearance. Korean women are beautiful because they are raised to be beautiful by their mothers. They are raised to be beautiful by society which dictates how a lady should conduct herself with femininity and grace. It is a very loving society where people support one another for the most part. Koreans take their health very seriously. Many take excellent care of their bodies. Go to Korea and see how people dress. Not all will be super fashionable, but you will RARELY see anyone dressed junkily. Everyone tries to be presentable. Koreans take a lot of healthy pride in their appearance and it's a good thing because they feel that it's important to present themselves well. Even if you don't have a lot of money, you can still comb your hair and wash your face and put on some lotion.

Haters can hate all they want, but they will never realize what truly makes Korean women beautiful, their warm, loving hearts and NOT going on message boards accusing people of plastic surgery. One cannot be truly beautiful on the outside if they are not so in the inside. That's why Paris Hilton will never be a great beauty unlike Angelina Jolie or some other women.

Trolls just show how petty and ugly they are with their comments about Korean women getting surgery. Just because someone is beautiful does not mean that they had plastic surgery. I guess it's normal for me because I have seen LOTS of naturally beautiful people, Korean or otherwise, around me. Trolls are just sad with their petty arguments.

And so typical for a Chinese nationalist troll to bring the argument back to China in a thread that has NOTHING to do with China. You can doublemint. rolls eyes.

Wow you sound like boobu, lol

you didn't burst MY bubble cuz I've seen & encountered many Koreans as well aka lots of other adoptees. And I don't find many of them beautiful, sorry to burst YOUR bubble again lol

'Everyone tries to be presentable' is not the same as 'Everyone is beautiful'

btw I never said plastic surgery can't lead to beauty, I didn't even mention plastic surgery in this thread at all, it's you who jumped on it with your big horse making also big conclusions on Chinese nationalist trolling, LOL

This post has been edited by fivers: May 20 2011, 08:00 AM

[doggyji]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I know it sounds corny but everyone has different standards or definitions. No need to argue over it lol

[WideAwake]

Wow you sound like boobu, lol

you didn't burst MY bubble cuz I've seen & encountered many Koreans as well aka lots of other adoptees. And I don't find many of them beautiful, sorry to burst YOUR bubble again lol

Whatever. Adoptees do not represent ALL Koreans, Ms. Expert on Korea. I don't care if you think they're beautiful. I feel confident in the beauty of my people.

btw I never said plastic surgery can't lead to beauty, I didn't even mention plastic surgery in this thread at all, it's you who jumped on it with your big horse making also big conclusions on Chinese nationalist trolling, LOL

You make no sense whatsoever. And I am NOT boobu.

[fivers]

what is 'in the eye of the beholder' is attraction, attraction is subjective, beauty isn't, that's why you can't argue with boobu over this, she's not being objective here cuz it's about Korea lol

[foi2]

It still is a plastic procedure. This Korean girl named Nana shows what makeup does.

Before her makeup


If she were a typical LA gyopo girl, she would probably be more tanned, chunkier and not put on much makeup. While there are gyopo girls like Jen in MarryKate's post, I'm sure you will find a lot more girls of such type in Seoul.

very pretty girl. But That picture isn't 'Before makeup'. She obviously has on an eyeliner and some foundation. "Light makeup" yes, "no makeup", no.

This post has been edited by foi2: May 20 2011, 08:55 AM

[doggyji]

what is 'in the eye of the beholder' is attraction, attraction is subjective, beauty isn't, that's why you can't argue with boobu over this, she's not being objective here cuz it's about Korea lol

Is beauty objective in your definition? Are there common criteria that we share universally and timelessly to examine beauty in human figures? How is beauty related to "attraction"?

very pretty girl. But That picture isn't 'Before makeup'. She obviously has on an eyeliner and some foundation. "Light makeup" yes, "no makeup", no.

Maybe just before eye shadow.

[fivers]

Whatever. Adoptees do not represent ALL Koreans, Ms. Expert on Korea. I don't care if you think they're beautiful. I feel confident in the beauty of my people.

if I said many USA women are fat - even though I've probably seen less of them irl then you.. likewise would you say 'no they're not fat Ms. Expert on USA, I've seen and encountered a wider range of American women then you' lol, see who's the one not making sense

[WideAwake]

if I said many USA women are fat - even though I've probably seen less of them irl then you.. likewise would you say 'no they're not fat Ms. Expert on USA, I've seen and encountered a wider range of American women then you' lol, see who's the one not making sense

This statement makes sense?

[yonip]

because its there style

[KochiGachi]

Well the subject was about Gyopos looking different from Koreans and one of the reasons is that Gyopos almost never get plastic surgery as opposed to Koreans in Korea. The same is true for Chinese Americans.

And I think Westerners get more Plastic surgery per capita than Koreans. Westerners age so badly that they need way more plastic surgery and they can afford it. Also, so many westerners go to S. America, Asia, or Africa to get their plastic surgery done for cheaper.

I don't know about you, I don't really notice difference between overseas Koreans and local Koreans.
Overseas Koreans don't use to Korean cosmetic brands or even following Korean fashion/trend/style, so they might be looking slightly different.
But they're Koreans, most of my cousins, sisters and girlfriends (all Koreans) which have born and raised overseas, they looked exactly like Koreans.

Chinese American are mostly from SEA, Hong Kong/Taiwan, They look different to mainland Chinese not because of plastic surgery it's because of genetic difference. Don't paint as if you're representing Korea or even China, because you always dragging non-Korean issue into Korean chat. Also, mainland Chinese have different fashion/trend, which I can easily spot mainland Chinese out of other East Asian. I went out with my girlfriend last night, I couldn't tell difference between Hong Kong girls, overseas Chinese girls from other East Asian girls but I spotted few mainland Chinese girls because of their fashion.

Plastic surgery is not cheap, it cost approx. $2000 for decent double eyelid, facial skin care cost $400~$800 per session.
Westerners do more plastic surgery on their bodies and reducing their big nose, East Asian do on their eyes.

There's better solution, balance diet and frequent gym training can improve your look.
Also pay visit to dentistry and get your teeth fixed, looking white and even, can add improvement to your look.
Add expert cosmetic makeup artistry, hence why people like Yuna Kim look attractive.

This post has been edited by KochiGachi: May 20 2011, 08:51 PM

[Captain Corea]

I don't know about you, I don't really notice difference between overseas Koreans and local Koreans.
Overseas Koreans don't use to Korean cosmetic brands or even following Korean fashion/trend/style, so they be looking slightly different.
But they're Koreans, most of my cousins, sisters and girlfriends (all Koreans) which have born and raised overseas, they looked exactly like Koreans.

I wouldn't say all or most of Kyopo lok different, but there's enough to warrent people noticing.