Vietnamese hidden faces behind the Killing Fields, Official Internet release for the first time Options

[joost_leaki]

Vietnam have done very bad for khmers, even after the khmer rouge, but if cambodia had the chance, we would also unemotionally kill ofF vietnamese, destroy their country, just as they tried to take to cambodia but unsuccessfully did. Just like Champa. If we had power, we both do the same. Now, both Vietnam and Cambodia are in poverty, they should try to help each other.

[Byron]

just as they tried to take to cambodia but unsuccessfully did.

When did Vietnam take Cambodia for itself? I kinda remembered reading that Vietnam only put in a new government right after taking out the Khmer Rouge.

we would also unemotionally kill ofF vietnamese, destroy their country

I don't see how Vietnam could have possibly destroyed Cambodia when the KR already did that job and I don't remember Vietnamese troops ever killing Khmer civilians enmass unlike the KR.

[joost_leaki]

When did Vietnam take Cambodia for itself? I kinda remembered reading that Vietnam only put in a new government right after taking out the Khmer Rouge.

You answered your own question, vietnam made cambodia into its vassal, pratically taking over.

I don't see how Vietnam could have possibly destroyed Cambodia when the KR already did that job and I don't remember Vietnamese troops ever killing Khmer civilians enmass unlike the KR.

Vietnam took control of us, made us work and employ a puppet, and killed many people, My elders still remind the youth of the pain, but it may not be in masses but they were killed.

[Byron]

You answered your own question, vietnam made cambodia into its vassal, pratically taking over.
Vietnam took control of us, made us work and employ a puppet, and killed many people, My elders still remind the youth of the pain, but it may not be in masses but they were killed.

A vassal is still considered an independent country. Besides every country that has had a government ousted by an outside country usually installs a government that is friendly to the victor country.

Just look at the government the US installed in Afghanistan and Iraq. If the US pulls outta Iraq and Afghanistan right after they took it over, Saddam's forces and the Taliban would have probably returned. Woudn't the KR with the help of the International community just retake power if Vietnam didn't put in Hun Sen?

Vietnam took control of us, made us work and employ a puppet, and killed many people

Ok and how many of those people were directly killed by Vietnamese? Yes I'm sure Khmer civilians died from labour to fight the KR by KR landmines, but how is that different from South Vietnamese dying while being recruited by the US? Or even Iraq Government forces being killed by car bombs working for the US today?

As for employing a puppet, I think there were only 2 choices, either Hun Sen or Pol Pot, since there was no 3rd party that had forces that were as big as those 2 choices, so I don't see how anyone else could have been a candidate for running the country.

This post has been edited by Byron: Sep 23 2006, 08:35 PM

[LVF]

no one cares ...

This post has been edited by LVF: Sep 23 2006, 09:07 PM

[FiRe_dRaGoN]

Sorry if I have offended you in anyway, you don't give a sh$t now but you will later on. Please before you refer to as Khmer Rouge dog first look at yourself and why are you so ferious and anger? IF you are really an educated person please come back with a better defend and please don't fight with hatred and use your knowledge. How can you say I'm a Khmer Rouge worshipper while you had no clue what it's about! .
Please stop accuse me of being this and that, first read the farking documents and see how fool like you jump to conclusion. Yeah all you have said is killing this and that what about put your farking knowledge into good use, people who died want JUSTICE until fool like you denied thier JUSTICE. Get it?

Are you really educated?
Well first you avoid the topic because you believe Khmer kill Khmer and secondly you denied yourself from knowing the truth. Sure I see it differently but ask yourself this is a magic show real to you? put that though into your mind and try that scenario to the Khmer genocide or in other words read documents and maybe you know better. If you didn't see Vietnamese behind the killing fields that because you weren't there and just like any other story, there are witness to that account.

It is not a blaming game if you actually really understand my comments. Who is feeding the Killing? and what is a blaming game? Want to know? read the documents and one day you might be very knowledgable of Khmer and other nations history. Knowledge is the way to go but if you want to lock yourself from knowledge do so, it's your choice.
Who is the devil and who is living in denial? Shall this questions refer to you!
Well i'm not the author too. Is this a quessing game now? If a person hate each other because one does not understand the other. To stop the hate they should understand and respect each other.

well im sorry i used inappropriate language, come to tink about u did get me abit pissed off, look my dad saw wht happen in his sector, he is 81 years old, and second i will keep on saying this no matter wht u say brother u cant change me, and i cant change wht u think either. and yes i ave read tht docu during 2004. and yes im educated, im on my diploma.

This post has been edited by FiRe_dRaGoN: Sep 24 2006, 12:50 AM

[SavarnnaphumKhme...]

Vietnam have done very bad for khmers, even after the khmer rouge, but if cambodia had the chance, we would also unemotionally kill ofF vietnamese, destroy their country, just as they tried to take to cambodia but unsuccessfully did. Just like Champa. If we had power, we both do the same. Now, both Vietnam and Cambodia are in poverty, they should try to help each other.

Sure vietnamese did bad thing to Khmer, but Cambodian cannot be like what the Thai r Vietnamese can do to Khmer. I'm not trying to be bias here but what you have said is he completely misjudging what has happen or in other words erase a history and place another version on it. Just to let you have a clue, for example the Champa they invade the Khmer and our King fought back and propell their attack and if Khmer was that gredy and killer we would have wipe them out but we just say to them stay where you are and we stay where we are. Before you can help other help yourself first.

When did Vietnam take Cambodia for itself? I kinda remembered reading that Vietnam only put in a new government right after taking out the Khmer Rouge.
I don't see how Vietnam could have possibly destroyed Cambodia when the KR already did that job and I don't remember Vietnamese troops ever killing Khmer civilians enmass unlike the KR.

Well in 1947 vietnam took Khmer Krom (South Vietnam) and you should know that in 1979 the vietnamese invade Cambodian and install the puppet regime to fool the world. or and rename our capital city as well.

Well if you didn't see how can vietnamese could have destroy Cambodia thats because you keep reading Hanoi book and you weren't there. Hints: Fake Khmer Rouge is Viet cong and Viet minh

[SavarnnaphumKhme...]

A vassal is still considered an independent country. Besides every country that has had a government ousted by an outside country usually installs a government that is friendly to the victor country.

Just look at the government the US installed in Afghanistan and Iraq. If the US pulls outta Iraq and Afghanistan right after they took it over, Saddam's forces and the Taliban would have probably returned. Woudn't the KR with the help of the International community just retake power if Vietnam didn't put in Hun Sen?
Ok and how many of those people were directly killed by Vietnamese? Yes I'm sure Khmer civilians died from labour to fight the KR by KR landmines, but how is that different from South Vietnamese dying while being recruited by the US? Or even Iraq Government forces being killed by car bombs working for the US today?

As for employing a puppet, I think there were only 2 choices, either Hun Sen or Pol Pot, since there was no 3rd party that had forces that were as big as those 2 choices, so I don't see how anyone else could have been a candidate for running the country.

Actually you are wrong every country that has had a government ousted are either direct or indirect of American involment which they see as potential economic hot zone to steal other nations resources.

The world would be more peace if Saddam was in power and well cheap oil to the world while the US cound't compete with that so they have accuse.

The people were kill direct by Vietnaese are in millions and let not foget the Khmer Krom people. Hhehehehhehe actually the world largest land mines ever put in a ground was the work of the vietnamese after they invade cambodian and amass Cambodian to lay mines across the thai and loas border or also know as K5 plan. Acutal south vietnamese couldn't fight North vietnamese the brave face are Khmer Krom and the minorities who inlisted.

How can you say there are only two choices when Cambodia have King Sihanouk! there was a choices but the forth one did look good at because if it did Cambodian couldn't understant vietnameses at all. Go and study more and do more research, right now i'm just farting out words at you.

no one cares ...

Shouldn't be reading it the first place

[SavarnnaphumKhme...]

well im sorry i used inappropriate language, come to tink about u did get me abit pissed off, look my dad saw wht happen in his sector, he is 81 years old, and second i will keep on saying this no matter wht u say brother u cant change me, and i cant change wht u think either. and yes i ave read tht docu during 2004. and yes im educated, im on my diploma.

It doesn't matter how rude you say I still can forgive for that. Is your dad a former Khmer Rouge commander or just a civilian surived the KR?IF he is a Frm KR, why don't he question why they kill Khmer? and why they always use the words Angkar Lue as an order and what purpose does the words really mean to them. Maybe your father were fooled by that words because the words is an exccuse and allow Khmer kill each other without questions. The trick to this killing is Angkar Luer words. Don't you see man how strange is the Cambodian genocide is First there is no press to take account, then there is the mass looting, then there was Toul Sleng prison and they took photos and what about killing of interlectuals people and how about how intelligent is the invasion and they founda big pot of golds.

Don't let other say Khmer is stupid question yourself is this and that happen. this is like putting a puzzle together and when you complete it everything will make sense. I cannot go and tell you to change what you believe but take a moment to what other says.

Go and ask your father does he know anyone around his village that became Khmer Rouge and if so question him this where did they get such weapons so quick. And also si there any vietnamese living around his village and where did they go or have he seen them being killed. last what accent does this Khmer Rouge speak. Well for now you do some homework. Ok for a diploma should do better

[lemongrass]

Dear Readers,

Please download the documents from the below link and read it because this documents will benefits you and your family, in understanding the Cambodian situations and how too many Khmer being misunderstood that included the new generations of Khmer. This is a must read articles for Khmer and the rest of the world.
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[FiRe_dRaGoN]

It doesn't matter how rude you say I still can forgive for that. Is your dad a former Khmer Rouge commander or just a civilian surived the KR?IF he is a Frm KR, why don't he question why they kill Khmer? and why they always use the words Angkar Lue as an order and what purpose does the words really mean to them. Maybe your father were fooled by that words because the words is an exccuse and allow Khmer kill each other without questions. The trick to this killing is Angkar Luer words. Don't you see man how strange is the Cambodian genocide is First there is no press to take account, then there is the mass looting, then there was Toul Sleng prison and they took photos and what about killing of interlectuals people and how about how intelligent is the invasion and they founda big pot of golds.

Don't let other say Khmer is stupid question yourself is this and that happen. this is like putting a puzzle together and when you complete it everything will make sense. I cannot go and tell you to change what you believe but take a moment to what other says.

Go and ask your father does he know anyone around his village that became Khmer Rouge and if so question him this where did they get such weapons so quick. And also si there any vietnamese living around his village and where did they go or have he seen them being killed. last what accent does this Khmer Rouge speak. Well for now you do some homework. Ok for a diploma should do better

my dad wasnt KR, yes he did wish senseless murder, some where isolated cases while others where full on. i knoe theres alot of conspiricy theories about wht happened in cambodia. i will not question he any more, he is old the memory he have back there was so painful. yes brother u cant wht i think, before i was unresonable as well, i used to hate blindy about viet, but since im grow up now, i understand hate blind us from wht really happen. yes he knows the viets tht live in those areas, they where just ordinary people, nuthin more nuthin less. i really using offensive language thts why i apologised, we should talk in a more civilised manner, talking out of anger wouldnt help.

[Sovann]

some of my relatives were in khmer rouge. there you go, SavarnnaphumKhmer. are they vietnamese in hidden faces? noooo.

[piclook]

From the menu:

"I hope all of our Khmer compatriots who were brutally killed are to protect our country from being wiped out on the World Map will rest at peace because I try to open Killers' faces."

Just from reading that, I don't think it's written by someone with a Ph.D. in Khmer history. Doesn't seem like a scholarly source.

This post has been edited by piclook: Sep 29 2006, 11:01 AM

[SavarnnaphumKhme...]

Where were you in 1975?

In 1975 i was being made to become someone and to educate others.

my dad wasnt KR, yes he did wish senseless murder, some where isolated cases while others where full on. i knoe theres alot of conspiricy theories about wht happened in cambodia. i will not question he any more, he is old the memory he have back there was so painful. yes brother u cant wht i think, before i was unresonable as well, i used to hate blindy about viet, but since im grow up now, i understand hate blind us from wht really happen. yes he knows the viets tht live in those areas, they where just ordinary people, nuthin more nuthin less. i really using offensive language thts why i apologised, we should talk in a more civilised manner, talking out of anger wouldnt help.

How did your dad survive? did he live with a proper Khmer Rouge group and watch other group of Khmer Rouge hacking people to death? I know seeing is believing but have you though about how would a top official want to get rid of a lower range people would do? he would not get his hand dirty but let other do for him and in that case do you see some senses now? Hate blindly is not the way to go because you can't prove it, well now you have grown up expect you to know more about it. If your dad know those viets that live next to him, where have they gone to? Well i'm not angry what effending language you use at least you got it out.

some of my relatives were in khmer rouge. there you go, SavarnnaphumKhmer. are they vietnamese in hidden faces? noooo.

Well if your relative were in the Khmer Rouge, that is that, they joint the revolution in believing in a new doctrine and hope they could do something about it. But when come to Angkar Lue they have no clue about it. No no they are not Vietnamese hidden faces unless they are Viet but, I take this as they are Khmer right? I cannot believe what I have read so far is mere my expectations of how well people really know about Cambodia. Good try and go study more.

From the menu:
Just from reading that, I don't think it's written by someone with a Ph.D. in Khmer history. Doesn't seem like a scholarly source.

Sorry you think it wasn't writen by Ph.D. in Khmer history well most of them are in graves and would you like to see the skeletons and bones? Yeah it doesn't seem like a scholarly source yeah well its only a screen menu.

[DAI_VIET]

so wait. the Khmers are blaming us for the killing fields?



seriously, some of these Khmers should really take responsibility. i mean, when are you going to take up your responsibility? we fought for your independence from France, didn't we?

Khmer independence? there was not a single Khmer dead for the war against the French, so some of you need to shut the fu-k up and stop complaining.

[SavarnnaphumKhme...]

so wait. the Khmers are blaming us for the killing fields?

Is this your accusation or your understanding of Cambodian history? Does the title attract you?

seriously, some of these Khmers should really take responsibility. i mean, when are you going to take up your responsibility? we fought for your independence from France, didn't we?

Sorry dude you're a bit late on responsibility and Pol Pot has admited mistake and took that responsibility. No you didn't fight for Khmer independence from France you took Khmer Krom and want to cut Khmer throat.

Khmer independence? there was not a single Khmer dead for the war against the French, so some of you need to shut the fu-k up and stop complaining.

Well if there is no single Khmer are dead for our Independence that is great or which mean Khmer use words instead of violence and its a reflection of the people society from being savage. Sorry that we don't speak in this roum but only type letters and the one should be shutting the fark up is you that try to cream out words.

so wait. the Khmers are blaming us for the killing fields?

Is this your accusation or your understanding of Cambodian history? Does the title attract you?

seriously, some of these Khmers should really take responsibility. i mean, when are you going to take up your responsibility? we fought for your independence from France, didn't we?

Sorry dude you're a bit late on responsibility and Pol Pot has admited mistake and took that responsibility. No you didn't fight for Khmer independence from France you took Khmer Krom and want to cut Khmer throat.

Khmer independence? there was not a single Khmer dead for the war against the French, so some of you need to shut the fu-k up and stop complaining.

Well if there is no single Khmer are dead for our Independence that is great or which mean Khmer use words instead of violence and its a reflection of the people society from being savage. Sorry that we don't speak in this roum but only type letters and the one should be shutting the fark up is you that try to cream out words.

[azn_viet]

SavarnnaphumKhmer, may I ask you why you blame the Vietnamese so much?

[kpham001]

^He has to blame it on Vietnamese. Who else is he going to blame it on? His own people? Certainly not! According to him, Vietnamese is very clever. We devise a plan to kill millions of khmer while hiding it from international eyes. Man, we got skill!!

[SavarnnaphumKhme...]

SavarnnaphumKhmer, may I ask you why you blame the Vietnamese so much?

Me blaming Viets! where and how did you come up with that conclusion? what I'm doing here is trying to prove what has happen. In other words go and study and come up with a better questions.

Ask yourself why did you run away from Vietnam? is it because you are Chinese viet or affriad being kill by little Ho?

^He has to blame it on Vietnamese. Who else is he going to blame it on? His own people? Certainly not! According to him, Vietnamese is very clever. We devise a plan to kill millions of khmer while hiding it from international eyes. Man, we got skill!!

Heheheeh you questions may be contradicted to what you are asking for. So you believe vietnamese are clever and yes you got skills but Khmer has the knwoledge of your cleverness and the skills you possess.

[Saigonese87]

Me blaming Viets! where and how did you come up with that conclusion? what I'm doing here is trying to prove what has happen. In other words go and study and come up with a better questions.

Ask yourself why did you run away from Vietnam? is it because you are Chinese viet or affriad being kill by little Ho?
Heheheeh you questions may be contradicted to what you are asking for. So you believe vietnamese are clever and yes you got skills but Khmer has the knwoledge of your cleverness and the skills you possess.

well good for you? now you know how Vietnamese operate in the 70's, and if you know the vietnamese mentality than you would also know that vietnamese are constantly developing their cleverness so it's even more clever now. so what you knew of vietnam then is not what it is now