Dr M is Da Bomb Options

[tangawizi]

Ex-Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamed said in a speech recently:

"...(the) MIGs are given, are sold to us without any condition, if you feel like bombing Singapore, for example, the Russians are not going to object.

[laughter]

Any Singaporeans here? Or ex-Singaporeans?"


Dr M continues in the later part of the speech:

"...but this great aircraft called F-18, which we bought from America, after buying it, after several months, I got to know that this aircraft cannot be used for any attacks against any country, even if this is not Singapore."

Upon watching this video clip on Youtube, a Malaysian friend of ours said, "Every country has its Bush."

[ricochet]

what good is there too ignite hatred or anger within the brotherhood of malaysian and singaporean....you are highlighting what someone say....but you are also instilling and igniting the bigger wrath.....juz keep what you read to yourself.....if we want to debate everything....then there is no peace on this earth

but funny thing is that...we only have the balls to say something in this kind of avenue..... when the time to go to war....we forgot our bullets and hence....raise the white flag and cabut lari 1st

[tangawizi]

Actually wanted to hear what fellow AFs on Malaysian chat say about this... not to ignite any thing

So far the reaction is good. Juz ignore the fella.

[ricochet]

Actually wanted to hear what fellow AFs on Malaysian chat say about this... not to ignite any thing

So far the reaction is good. Juz ignore the fella.

oh sorry....my apologies then

[tangawizi]

oh sorry....my apologies then

No sweat, bro!

[forrestcat]

I believe Dr M does nor mean what he says..he was just stating an example.

Anyway, spending in military acquisition has been very minimal under Mahathir, he does not have any military ambitions. Mahathir reportedly hates the military due to the fact that he lived under British, Japanese and Siamese occupation during his childhood and he has seen how brutal the military could be...and I believe he did not like that.

[tangawizi]

Forrest, tell me honest opinion please. If the ex-PM of S'pore uses Malaysia for the same analogy, do you think there will be uproar in the Msian parliament and press?

[forrestcat]

^Yes, as usual it will.

S'poreans should be glad that such statements come from Mahathir and not some crazy dictator.

[tangawizi]

Indeed. I am grateful.. thanks for your honest opinion. I do believe the malaysian press and parliament would go berserk if such comments came from a dictatorship that is Singapore.

[flipcombatmedic]

so some Malaysians are pissed off at Singapore?

[forrestcat]

so some Malaysians are pissed off at Singapore?

Not Malaysians, only certain Malaysian politicians and Singaporean politicians who bother and have time to hate each other.

This has to do with the fact that S'pore used to be apart of Malaysia and the island was ousted from the federation due to confrontation between the ruling party of Malaysia,BN and the PAP that ruled S'pore. The hostility between these 2 countries political parties still remains until today, hence now and then, a spat will occur between these 2 countries.

This post has been edited by forrestcat: Jul 12 2006, 07:32 PM

[ricochet]

juz like wat is happening in the forum lar......hehe

yr analogy not so correct....do you know the real cause to all this hatred?.....try flipping the KD Malaya case

[forrestcat]

What is the KD Malaya. Can u elaborate. No need to be discreet, this is the serious chat.

[tangawizi]

juz like wat is happening in the forum lar......hehe

yr analogy not so correct....do you know the real cause to all this hatred?.....try flipping the KD Malaya case

The only spat seems to be coming from u, rico. A msian...

[ricochet]

KD Malaya - Malaysian naval base in Singapore

Its a long story my fren...try digging up and google it. Dun understand ask me again

sumtimes its funny when you guys use certain words...like dictatorship and others without ever thinking of what others felt about it.....

its ok...this is a forum...understood pretty well....sigh

KD Malaya - Malaysian naval base in Singapore

Its a long story my fren...try digging up and google it. Dun understand ask me again

this is for forrest


sumtimes its funny when you guys use certain words...like dictatorship and others without ever thinking of what others felt about it.....

its ok...this is a forum...understood pretty well....sigh

this is for tanga

dunno how it got sandwiched

[tangawizi]

sumtimes its funny when you guys use certain words...like dictatorship and others without ever thinking of what others felt about it.....

Hi rico, i find it kinda ironical that as msian, u sorta see things from the pov of SG more while, me as Sporean, I like to see things from pov of the msians. Between Msia and SG, in terms of press freedom and saying whatever the hell one likes to without fear of repercussions, I do think we have a dictatorship in SG. But of course, u are right, it will always be relative.. you may see the PAP's stranglehold on their local media as enlightenment itself.

BTW, the above blurp on Dr M was sourced from Mr Brown's blog. He was nailed recently by the Pappies for complaining about the high cost of progress in SG..

[pancaindera]

the speech is quite funny, but tun m also seems to be seeking abit of attention, by saying something controversial

[ricochet]

its basically very simple, when you are outside the country that you can see clearly what is the view from outside the box. there are good and bad about malaysia or singapore. There are much to learn from singapore and likewise, for singaporean to learn about malaysia. but sometimes, people cannot detach the emotion between them and failed to see things in a positive perspective.

aiya you say singapore practises dictatorship in press freedom.....but malaysia if say something wrong...ISA liao,...sama sama la dei

to pancaindera...i quite agree with you

[tangawizi]

well rico, i am outside both boxes (SG and Msia) and i can see that both countries top leaders ain't never gonna reconcile their differences nor copy one another. And both sets of citizens ape their leaders.

For folks like u and me who wanna see change in the mindset and system, we will stand no chance to step into the leadership ladder. Too bad lah mat rico! ..

[ricochet]

well rico, i am outside both boxes (SG and Msia) and i can see that both countries top leaders ain't never gonna reconcile their differences nor copy one another. And both sets of citizens ape their leaders.

For folks like u and me who wanna see change in the mindset and system, we will stand no chance to step into the leadership ladder. Too bad lah mat rico! ..

well makcik wizi, I also got no ambition into the political arena. what are we talking here and what are we creating ....we are sharing our opinion and we know darn well that nothing is gonna change anything....its pouring water in the sea sort. but what do we achieve, we get insights and we build our knowledge and we learn something from someone and we get to share our knowledge. Sometime that gives certain satisfaction. And sometimes, if you are lucky....you get to meet the person you chat