It’s tough being Malaysian Chinese, Nobody wants us. Options

[SChong54]

It’s tough being Malaysian Chinese — Tan Shang Neng (loyarburok.com)
May 12, 2011

MAY 12 — As a young Malaysian Chinese, when asked to draw my vision of the year 2020 in our primary school Pendidikan Seni classes, I would draw flying cars, floating buildings, a city of steel and glass, people in jet-fighter styled suits covering arms and legs and a helmet to top, using jetpacks strapped to their backs.

Today, if asked to draw my vision of 2020?

I hope to have trees with leaves still green, less floods, less killing around the world. And, hopefully in the myriad hands I have drawn holding on to each other in the middle in harmonious unity, there will be a pair of hands with the colour that best represents my Chinese skin (another conditioning from primary school: “NO! People cannot be blue because they are nice or green because they are jealous! They must be coloured brown because this guy with songkok is evidently Malay, and this girl in this cheongsam must be yellow because she is evidently Chinese, and this Indian boy must be coloured black!” Boy was my little self so confused.)

It is not easy being Malaysian Chinese. We are not all Lim Goh Tongs, Vincent Tans or YTLs. Some of us are the Ah Kaus fishing for a living in Kuala Selangor. We are also the Ah Sengs peddling DVDs in pasar malams. Some are the Ah Tans, working as machais for the loan shark tailos. Many too are the Lim Ah Sings sleeping under abandoned hawker stalls beneath flyovers in the heart of KL.

I was not born into blankets sewn from RM100 bills, so it was a tough growing up trying to understand why there are people who say if you are Chinese, you are rich and greedy. It is hard to understand why people would brand people like my dear father as groups wanting to take over the country, when all he did was come home late from work weekly in order to ensure he will one day afford to put this son of his through university. It drives me crazy when some Malaysian Chinese demands for equality, that poor bugger gets told to go back to China or go to Singapore.

It is easier said than done for a modern-day Malaysian Chinese like me. Wherever I go now, I will be an outsider. Roaming places I will never truly belong. Sleeping in buildings I will probably never be able to call home.

In China, my lack of speech in Mandarin will highlight me as an instant outcast. They will favour their own kin before letting this guy — who looks very much like one of them but in essence anything but — to lead their companies. In Australia and the UK, sure, there will be equality and minimal discrimination, but to a point. You start of on equal footing as all, but as you progress, there is only as high a corporate ladder you can climb because your Chinese skin bars your ascent. Try being Malaysian and vie for a pupillage to be a barrister in the UK! You might be given PR in the UK or Australia, but you will truly then be a pendatang, born and bred elsewhere, made to scrap a living in a land with different social norms and values system.

What about Singapore? You might find it hard to believe, but there are Malaysian Chinese who cannot stand the idea of living in that city state! Sure, good money, relatively more efficient government and good transport system. But really now, Singapore? Fast paced, faceless?

So really now, if my home — my country, my Malaysia — asks me, a Malaysian Chinese — a budak Klang, no less — to leave…

…I will have nowhere to go to. No place to truly call my own. No place I can say my grandparents helped built. A place I once ate at a school canteen with one Amirrulah, a place where I played Sunday basketball with a Tan Kian Ping, a place I once mamak-ed with a Jagdeep Singh, a place where we would celebrate Merdeka at Ashley’s Melawis home.

It’s not easy being a Malaysian Chinese. To live in a country which often confuses itself if it wants you or not. A country where you are more often than not branded as a pendatang even though your grandparents were born here.

The truth of the matter is simple, there will only ever be one home for a person like me, and I will fight for it till the end. And you can put your bets on me fighting till the end for the right to remain in…

…my home.

It’s not just being Malaysian Chinese that is bothersome these days. It’s being Malaysian Indian. A Malaysian Dusun. A Malaysian homosexual. A Malaysian Christian. A Malaysian Muslim. A Malaysian tauke.

It’s just not easy being Malaysian anymore.

Is it really that difficult? To have a government which governs its people for the right reasons, to make us richer, healthier, better than the rest of the world? Can we all one day be free to live the life we chose for ourselves as long as it does not impose itself upon another? Can we one day choose who or what we pray to, to choose who we love, to choose where we die.

I want a day when I can wake up in the morning and have bak-kut-teh for breakfast, nasi lemak daging rendang for lunch, Italian for dinner and roti canai for supper without some person on television telling me how, when and where I can eat them.

It’s tough being a Malaysian Chinese these days.

Nobody wants us. — loyarburok.com

[elleX0]

Well said.
But are you asking for the impossible?

The truth of the matter is simple, there will only ever be one home for a person like me, and I will fight for it till the end. And you can put your bets on me fighting till the end for the right to remain in…

…my home.

So maybe the road to success may be painful but will you be willing to take the journey?

[chutzpah]

SChong54, thank you for posting this article. This aptly describes the condition under which non Malays and non Muslims must endure living in Malaysia and to a lesser extend in Indonesia.

But there are some forummers who will disagree with you, those who think it will only bring negative feelings to AFChat and that it will deter the usual suspects for ever returning to AF. Worst, they also regard this type of post as anti Malay/Islam/Muslim which is totally unfounded.

One in particular goes by the nickname Tangawizi who is most vocal about this type of posting. She will not hesitate to label anyone who dares to post such topic as anti Malay/Muslim. And if the content is about IDN, then it is anti Indon/Muslim. She will even go as far as to garner support by mean of a petition just to get rid of you. She will twist all facts even in the face of mounting evidence against her. She will label you as a troll and call you a host of other unsavouries names nevermind that your only intention is to spotlight the injustices done to the non Indon/Malay/Muslims.

Tangawizi who admits to be a 'Chinese Singaporean' considers this type of post as a form of either subtle or outright anti Malay/Islam. BUT then again she 'HAS' the luxury of living in Singapore where the minorities rights are respected and where they are treated equally by the majority, unlike in IND and MY. So she can be sanctimonious and can continue to pontificate ad nauseum. Afterall she never have to experience what the minorities non Muslims must endure day in day out scraping for a living in IDN or MY.

This post has been edited by chutzpah: May 13 2011, 02:31 AM

[elleX0]

SChong, Sweeping this topic under the carpet is to accept defeat. AND THE PROBLEM WILL NOT GO AWAY. I am glad that there are some people who still have dignity and pride to want fairness and equal treatment in any nation. Appeasement is certainly not the solution and that is why if you, SChong, can add some humour and satire into your presentation, it is wonderful, and still gets the message across.

As I have said throughout, matters of differences of religion, race, and ethnicity, and wealth are topics filled with dynamite. But shutting out the problem only means that the problem becomes worse and the solution more drastic. To bury the problem for the next generation to solve is a cowards way out.

But the problem, is complex, as I have pointed out. But do the protagonists understand the problem and the causes of the problem. I fear that most people do not recognise the problem, and not wanting to air it or discuss it means the problem can never be resolved. The problems have to be identified, and then the options to resolve it must be examined to find the best solution. It is not impossible to resolve, but it may take a long time and a lot of hard and maybe painful work. But it must be discussed openly so that all parties understand the problem. That is what the internet is for.

[tangawizi]

Yes, its bloody tough to be a Malaysian chinese.

RAcism against chinese by the Malay establishment is rife. We all know this. But does that mean we chinese should be racist against the Malays/Indos in return? Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right.

So Chutzpah, I would like you to know that I do not consider a blog post such as It’s tough being Malaysian Chinese — Tan Shang Neng (loyarburok.com) as a racist post.

We may not have lived through the race riots of the 50's when our grandparents were living in the kampungs and slums... but we don't have to live through one just to know what racism is about.

It starts from our own attitude to our neighbors.

When I said that I sometimes wish I could move out of this ulu neighborhood, that's because of the old and bitter political rivalry between our "has-been" leadership (Mturd in your word and Lau Lee).

I don't think race relations in our neighborhood is so stable and cozy as to allow us to be careless with our words and to wantonly engage in dissing each other off.

Because of our diverse cultural heritages and religions in Southeast asia, and the persistent economic division in our societies between the haves and the have-nots, we have to be more than logical and factual in discussing race relations and religious injustices, we have to be humanists first.

Don't be so influenced by the PAP just because u live and work in Singapore. Lau Lee thinks that he is always right because he can back everything with facts and legal precedents. But not everyone is convinced by cold hard facts and legal precedents alone. There's the intangibles as well.

Sometimes, the guy that wins the hearts and minds of people is the one who is the humanist, able to touch the hearts and minds of his opponents.

For instance, however evil Bin Laden was, he was able to touch the hearts and minds of oppressed muslim folks around the globe. Even muslims who were engineers/pilots educated in the west were swayed by him to be willing to join the suicide squads. There was something universally humanist in his rhetoric against greed, exploitation and injustices committed by the Western powers in the carving of the middle-eastern states and molly coddling the military dictatorships in oil-rich gulf nations. It's a shame that Bin Laden misguided fellow muslims to react with violence instead of a Gandhi type of peaceful and non-violent uprising. Instead of bringing about a reformation of Islam, he caused something of an Islamic dark age.

Now the US is releasing video footages of the commander-in-chief to destroy this humanism in Bin Laden. They show how he was juz as obsessed about his public image as a rebel leader and how he cleverly crafted his image to all muslim followers. The US and their allies have always been careful to show their humanist side of things... always emphasizing how they are the democratic freedom fighter out to liberate the people.... why do you think history is on their side and not on the Bin Ladens' nor the mullahs'??

To win the hearts and minds of your opponents, show them you are also a humanist. You don't have to win each and every argument on logic and fact alone. The worst of all, be a racist or a phobic just to tit-for-tat.

In Malaysia, I don't really see any leading chinese figure who can step into the shoes of a true humanist like Gandhi. Maybe i am wrong..?

Somehow, we chinese are too pragmatic and selfish to come up with someone like a chinese Gandhi. Just look at Mao Tzetung. So the Chinese Have Stood Up after a long and bloody civil war with the kuomintang and the japanese, but what happened to him eventually?

He turned into a demagogue. No different from the debauched and incompetent emperors of china's feudal past. Most Singaporeans these days are saying the same thing about the Lee, Mah, Teo Dynasties ... where the children/grandchildren of the elites are being groomed for high political office.

Is Malaysia ever gonna come up with a humanist who can lead the malays, indians and chinese in peace and prosperity?

This post has been edited by tangawizi: May 13 2011, 05:55 AM

[k82562131]

discrimination is real

GREAT read, schong54!

[chutzpah]

Yes, its bloody tough to be a Malaysian chinese.

RAcism against chinese by the Malay establishment is rife. We all know this. But does that mean we chinese should be racist against the Malays/Indos in return? Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right.

Did I ever say or even imply such? It was you who generalise about the Chinese by saying they are racist towards the Malays.

So Chutzpah, I would like you to know that I do not consider a blog post such as It’s tough being Malaysian Chinese — Tan Shang Neng (loyarburok.com) as a racist post.

Hmmm.. and yet you condemn our posting of news items about the injustices done to non Indon/Malay/Muslim by labbelling us racist and anti Indon/Malay/Muslim. You accused us for 'taunting' and create racial hatreds.

It starts from our own attitude to our neighbors.

I don't think race relations in our neighborhood is so stable and cozy as to allow us to be careless with our words and to wantonly engage in dissing each other off.

You should follow your own advice.


Because of our diverse cultural heritages and religions in Southeast asia, and the persistent economic division in our societies between the haves and the have-nots, we have to be more than logical and factual in discussing race relations and religious injustices, we have to be humanists first.

Yes you should heed your own advice and always base on facts like we do in all our post. We substantiate what we said with evidence.

For instance, however evil Bin Laden was, he was able to touch the hearts and minds of oppressed muslim folks around the globe. Even muslims who were engineers/pilots educated in the west were swayed by him to be willing to join the suicide squads. There was something universally humanist in his rhetoric against greed, exploitation and injustices committed by the Western powers in the carving of the middle-eastern states and molly coddling the military dictatorships in oil-rich gulf nations. It's a shame that Bin Laden misguided fellow muslims to react with violence instead of a Gandhi type of peaceful and non-violent uprising. Instead of bringing about a reformation of Islam, he caused something of an Islamic dark age.

Tang, study Islam so you can understand WHY OBL has such large followings. Much as you try to paint a nice picture of him, most people I am fraid won't buy it.

He turned into a demagogue. No different from the debauched and incompetent emperors of china's feudal past. Most Singaporeans these days are saying the same thing about the Lee, Mah, Teo Dynasties ... where the children/grandchildren of the elites are being groomed for high political office.

There you go again generalising the Chinese Emperors. Do you know there were some exceptional Emperors? That is the reason the art flourished in each successive dynasty. Without good governance that brought about prosperities the art would not flourish. The art of China reached many zeniths. Read your history, not all Chinese Emperors are as you describe.

Is Malaysia ever gonna come up with a humanist who can lead the malays, indians and chinese in peace and prosperity?

They don't need any humanist they have Najib and his lovely wife, Rosmah

[cornhorlio]

Yes, its bloody tough to be a Malaysian chinese.

RAcism against chinese by the Malay establishment is rife. We all know this. But does that mean we chinese should be racist against the Malays/Indos in return? Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right.

So Chutzpah, I would like you to know that I do not consider a blog post such as It’s tough being Malaysian Chinese — Tan Shang Neng (loyarburok.com) as a racist post.

We may not have lived through the race riots of the 50's when our grandparents were living in the kampungs and slums... but we don't have to live through one just to know what racism is about.

It starts from our own attitude to our neighbors.

When I said that I sometimes wish I could move out of this ulu neighborhood, that's because of the old and bitter political rivalry between our "has-been" leadership (Mturd in your word and Lau Lee).

I don't think race relations in our neighborhood is so stable and cozy as to allow us to be careless with our words and to wantonly engage in dissing each other off.

Because of our diverse cultural heritages and religions in Southeast asia, and the persistent economic division in our societies between the haves and the have-nots, we have to be more than logical and factual in discussing race relations and religious injustices, we have to be humanists first.

Don't be so influenced by the PAP just because u live and work in Singapore. Lau Lee thinks that he is always right because he can back everything with facts and legal precedents. But not everyone is convinced by cold hard facts and legal precedents alone. There's the intangibles as well.

Sometimes, the guy that wins the hearts and minds of people is the one who is the humanist, able to touch the hearts and minds of his opponents.

For instance, however evil Bin Laden was, he was able to touch the hearts and minds of oppressed muslim folks around the globe. Even muslims who were engineers/pilots educated in the west were swayed by him to be willing to join the suicide squads. There was something universally humanist in his rhetoric against greed, exploitation and injustices committed by the Western powers in the carving of the middle-eastern states and molly coddling the military dictatorships in oil-rich gulf nations. It's a shame that Bin Laden misguided fellow muslims to react with violence instead of a Gandhi type of peaceful and non-violent uprising. Instead of bringing about a reformation of Islam, he caused something of an Islamic dark age.

Now the US is releasing video footages of the commander-in-chief to destroy this humanism in Bin Laden. They show how he was juz as obsessed about his public image as a rebel leader and how he cleverly crafted his image to all muslim followers. The US and their allies have always been careful to show their humanist side of things... always emphasizing how they are the democratic freedom fighter out to liberate the people.... why do you think history is on their side and not on the Bin Ladens' nor the mullahs'??

To win the hearts and minds of your opponents, show them you are also a humanist. You don't have to win each and every argument on logic and fact alone. The worst of all, be a racist or a phobic just to tit-for-tat.

In Malaysia, I don't really see any leading chinese figure who can step into the shoes of a true humanist like Gandhi. Maybe i am wrong..?

Somehow, we chinese are too pragmatic and selfish to come up with someone like a chinese Gandhi. Just look at Mao Tzetung. So the Chinese Have Stood Up after a long and bloody civil war with the kuomintang and the japanese, but what happened to him eventually?

He turned into a demagogue. No different from the debauched and incompetent emperors of china's feudal past. Most Singaporeans these days are saying the same thing about the Lee, Mah, Teo Dynasties ... where the children/grandchildren of the elites are being groomed for high political office.

Is Malaysia ever gonna come up with a humanist who can lead the malays, indians and chinese in peace and prosperity?

I used to study in predominatly malay schools and find the malay teachers there have the "Under Siege" mentality. The history teacher is the one that express the "malay race is under siege" mentality the most. Many justify the NEP that favor the malay race than merit as a form of protection to the Malay race. My history teacher told the students that Malays have to be racist in order to pevent them from being oppressed and discriminated. He cited examples that Thailand and Singapore practices discrimination towards their malay minorities in employment and Malay Champa minorities in Cambodia are being percecuted by Khmer Rouge.

[elleX0]

I used to study in predominatly malay schools and find the malay teachers there have the "Under Siege" mentality. The history teacher is the one that express the "malay race is under siege" mentality the most. Many justify the NEP that favor the malay race than merit as a form of protection to the Malay race. My history teacher told the students that Malays have to be racist in order to pevent them from being oppressed and discriminated. He cited examples that Thailand and Singapore practices discrimination towards their malay minorities in employment and Malay Champa minorities in Cambodia are being percecuted by Khmer Rouge.

cornhorlio, Firstly, welcome to this site. Secondly, remember anything I say must not be taken personally, but I would like to comment on some of your views. You keep on referring to the word, "humanist" as though it was the "magic bullet." So let us see what Humanist means:

humanism - thesaurus entry
View dictionary entry for humanism

NOUN
the belief that people can live using their intelligence and reason rather than depending on a god or religion. Someone who believes in humanism is called a humanist.
*Synonyms or related words for this sense of humanism*
Not religious and not holy: secular, irreverent, agnostic, godless, irreligious, unorthodox, humanism, atheist, heretic, rationalist.

Sorry, your view might reflect a Taoist or Buddhist view, but it would never be accepted in any monotheist community. So let us forget that from the very start. Christian morality and ethics stems from the Bible and its teachings and that is what guides them in all their decisions. Islamic morality and ethics stems from the Qur'an and the Hadiths and there is also no room in this religion or her followers for "Humanism." So forget Humanism if you wish to discuss Christian or Islamic codes of ethics. They will never accept humanism as the criteria for behaviour to one another.

The Islamic mentality of being, "Under Siege" is simply the Islamic ploy and rallying call to Jihad, just as "The Adhan is the call to Muslim Prayer." It unites and rallies all Muslims to unite to fight the aggressors. The unification of all Muslims to fight the infidel.

This post has been edited by elleX0: May 16 2011, 02:10 PM

[swingdoctor]

I used to study in predominatly malay schools and find the malay teachers there have the "Under Siege" mentality. The history teacher is the one that express the "malay race is under siege" mentality the most. Many justify the NEP that favor the malay race than merit as a form of protection to the Malay race. My history teacher told the students that Malays have to be racist in order to pevent them from being oppressed and discriminated. He cited examples that Thailand and Singapore practices discrimination towards their malay minorities in employment and Malay Champa minorities in Cambodia are being percecuted by Khmer Rouge.

Firstly the discrimination in Thailand and Singapore is not anywhere as bad as it is in Malaysia. Secondly, the discrimination in Singapore and Thailand occurs not simply becuse the people are Malay but becasue they are a minority, the fact they are Malay is incidental. In Singapore, whatever discrimination the Malays suffer, the Indians do too and more. In Thailand the other minority groups suffer just as much discrimination as the Malays do.

In Malaysia the Malays are not the minority. Can you give me one example of any country in the world where the majority is disciminated agaisnt? Furthermore is it justifyable that you do something to someone else when you fear it happening to you in the firstplace? In otherwords is it fair that the Malays discriminate against other races when they fear discrimination themselves?

The Khmer Rouge, persecuted everyone regardless of race.

[tangawizi]

You keep on referring to the word, "humanist" as though it was the "magic bullet." So let us see what Humanist means:

Sorry, your view might reflect a Taoist or Buddhist view, but it would never be accepted in any monotheist community. So let us forget that from the very start. Christian morality and ethics stems from the Bible and its teachings and that is what guides them in all their decisions. Islamic morality and ethics stems from the Qur'an and the Hadiths and there is also no room in this religion or her followers for "Humanism." So forget Humanism if you wish to discuss Christian or Islamic codes of ethics. They will never accept humanism as the criteria for behaviour to one another.

The Islamic mentality of being, "Under Siege" is simply the Islamic ploy and rallying call to Jihad, just as "The Adhan is the call to Muslim Prayer." It unites and rallies all Muslims to unite to fight the aggressors. The unification of all Muslims to fight the infidel.

Ellexo, humanism isn't the domain of eastern philosophies, it existed in renaissance Christianity and medieval Islam too. Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism

I have to say the "under siege" mentality that Corn's malay history teacher evinced, is also something which the older generation of PAP leaders like LKY liked to use to cow the sheeple into silent agreement on their policies.

This is a tactic that is not exclusive to Islamic ploys alone.

[chutzpah]

In Malaysia the Malays are not the minority. Can you give me one example of any country in the world where the majority is disciminated agaisnt? Furthermore is it justifyable that you do something to someone else when you fear it happening to you in the firstplace? In otherwords is it fair that the Malays discriminate against other races when they fear discrimination themselves?
The Khmer Rouge, persecuted everyone regardless of race.

A very good point indeed.

I have to say the "under siege" mentality that Corn's malay history teacher evinced, is also something which the older generation of PAP leaders like LKY liked to use to cow the sheeple into silent agreement on their policies.

Without PAP and LKY we would not have what we have today. Yes they are not perfect but then who is? Which City State which has absolutely nothing, even has to rely on Bolehland for water (a point which Bolehlanders use to bully SG) has in such a short time achive so much? Talk about water now SG has been able to produce water from recycling and desalination thus reduce the dependence on Bolehland almost up to 30% In years to come this dependence can be further reduced with new technology. So let's don't knock it but learn to be grateful instead.

This post has been edited by chutzpah: May 17 2011, 01:44 AM

[skinheadselamany...]

It sucks to be Malay too... everything you do is looked upon as racist. Nothing is ever good enough. If a Malay is rich it's becoz of handouts. If a Malay gets a scholarship it's becoz they're the preferred race. Malays are and will always be seen as genetically & culturally inferior. C'mon, don't be racists.

[freezingpoint]

Please don't misunderstand the situation in China. We're very welcoming of Malaysian Chinese coming back. I had a high school classmate from Malaysia! You should not expect to run a company from the start unless you've invested in it. That wouldn't be fair to the other 1.3 billion. Really, China is not unfriendly towards Malaysian Chinese. Just try it out.

[skinheadselamany...]

Why are there so many singapor commenters in Malaysian chat? Got nobody to talk big to in your own chat?

[humiliator]

It’s tough being Malaysian Chinese — Tan Shang Neng (loyarburok.com)
May 12, 2011

MAY 12 — As a young Malaysian Chinese, when asked to draw my vision of the year 2020 in our primary school Pendidikan Seni classes, I would draw flying cars, floating buildings, a city of steel and glass, people in jet-fighter styled suits covering arms and legs and a helmet to top, using jetpacks strapped to their backs.

Today, if asked to draw my vision of 2020?

I hope to have trees with leaves still green, less floods, less killing around the world. And, hopefully in the myriad hands I have drawn holding on to each other in the middle in harmonious unity, there will be a pair of hands with the colour that best represents my Chinese skin (another conditioning from primary school: “NO! People cannot be blue because they are nice or green because they are jealous! They must be coloured brown because this guy with songkok is evidently Malay, and this girl in this cheongsam must be yellow because she is evidently Chinese, and this Indian boy must be coloured black!” Boy was my little self so confused.)

It is not easy being Malaysian Chinese. We are not all Lim Goh Tongs, Vincent Tans or YTLs. Some of us are the Ah Kaus fishing for a living in Kuala Selangor. We are also the Ah Sengs peddling DVDs in pasar malams. Some are the Ah Tans, working as machais for the loan shark tailos. Many too are the Lim Ah Sings sleeping under abandoned hawker stalls beneath flyovers in the heart of KL.

How the hell did that blogger forget to mention Chinese becoming torture victims of ah longs when he already said something about loan sharks ?

Without PAP and LKY we would not have what we have today.

Pardon me for asking. But what exactly do you miserable singaporeans have today ? A crowded rat infested flat and a job with Amahs-On-Wheels ?

It sucks to be Malay too...

Not really.
As long as my people are the richest & most technologically advanced ethnic group in the country it doesn’t matter what other races like to think about us.
Malaysian downtrodden minorities who receive free meals and handouts from malays are not qualified to judge us.

This post has been edited by humiliator: Jun 3 2011, 12:59 AM

[chutzpah]

As long as my people are the richest & most technologically advanced ethnic group in the country it doesn’t matter what other races like to think about us.
Malaysian downtrodden minorities who receive free meals and handouts from malays are not qualified to judge us.

REALLY? Wow what a big mouth, better close t before it becomes a fly trap

Where and when did your people become most technologically advanced? Some are rich yes, due to handouts and corruptions. If you see a Malay drives a Porche/Merc/BM/Ferrari it is due to handouts and corruptions. If you see a Chinese/Indian driving those cars, it is due to their own sweat! That is the difference.

Here is the prowess of Bolehland superb technology you boast about, yes even after RM73 mil upgrade:

Penang Funicular Train: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...&sec=nation

[Darkblade]

China still welcome you guys, maybe if you drop the attitude and start behaving like normal chinese citizens instead of the we're special because were *insert country* chinese blah blah .. and for god sake malaysian and indonesian chinese are the biggest whiner ever when they actually live in China.

[swingdoctor]

China still welcome you guys, maybe if you drop the attitude and start behaving like normal chinese citizens instead of the we're special because were *insert country* chinese blah blah .. and for god sake malaysian and indonesian chinese are the biggest whiner ever when they actually live in China.

I'm a Chinese from Malaysia who now lives in Australia, I have never identified myself as being a Chinese citizen let alone a "normal" one whatever that means. There is a large population of Malaysian Chinese here in Australia and I would not describe ourselves a "whiners", we as a population are saddended that we had to leave our country of birth to succeed in life, and to some extent we are also very angry that the country we were born in is comeplled to treat us as second class citizens yet greatful that our adopted homeland treats us as equals.

This post has been edited by swingdoctor: Jun 8 2011, 01:11 AM

[elleX0]

I'm a Chinese from Malaysia who now lives in Australia, I have never identified myself as being a Chinese citizen let alone a "normal" one whatever that means. There is a large population of Malaysian Chinese here in Australia and I would not describe ourselves a "whiners", we as a population are saddended that we had to leave our country of birth to succeed in life, and to some extent we are also very angry that the country we were born in is comeplled to treat us as second class citizens yet greatful that our adopted homeland treats us as equals.

Swingdoctor: Well said. Malaysia's racist policy is one of the most repressive in SEAsia. It is their loss yet they cannot see it. But time will be the judge.