Malaysia & Singapore Armed Force Options

[vienti]

i like malaysia and so interesting to malayisa.
Malaysia and singapore are neighborhood country. also, there are have competition each other country.

Singapore is regarding enemy of imagination as malaysia and they do highest reinforce military strength.
then? what do malaysia prepare that?

Malaysia's populations are 27million vs Singapore's populations are 5million.
there are much malaysia populations more than 5 times of Singapore population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...P_%28nominal%29

Malaysia country GDP 180.7 billion$ vs Singapore country GDP 161.3 billion$
also, economy scale of Malaysia is alittle big than singapore.

but, military strength is not so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...ry_expenditures

Singapore one year military budget 7.1billon $ (World 24th)
Malaysia one year military budget 1.7 billion $ (World 54th)

each other military force compare

Singapore Army force Main Battle Tanks - Leopard 2A4 : 96
Malaysian Army force Main Battle Tanks - PT-91M : 48

Singapore Air Force Main Fighter
F-5S/T Tiger II : 45
F-16C Block 52 : 22
F-16D Block 52 : 40
F-15 Strike Eagle : 24

Malaysian Air Force Main Fighter
F-5E/F Tiger II : 8
MiG-29N : 14
Su-30MKM : 12
F/A-18D : 8

Singapore Navy Main warship
Destroyer : None
Frigates : Formidable class 6 ship
Corvettes : Victory class 6 ship
Submarines : Challenger class 4ship

Malaysian Navy Main warship
Destroyer : None
Frigate : kiu Class 2ship
Corvette : Kasturi class 2 & Laksamana class 4ship
Submarines : Scorpène Class 2ship

Singapore airforce is strong more triple than malaysia airforce and army and navy too singapore stronger .
bytheway, why malaysia less military defense expenditure investment than Singapore, and does malaysia military strength keep little than singapore's half?

[kelantanese]

Singapore richer than Malaysia so whaattoudoo... But I bet you only half of Singapore military equipment store in their country, the rest keep else where

[vienti]

Singapore richer than Malaysia so whaattoudoo...

ofcoz, singapore one person is richer than a Malaysia one person.

USA populations are 310 million people..Norway's populations are 8million people..
USA per GDP are 40,000$
Norway per GDP are 60,000$
but, where military strength is stronger among USA, Norway and economy scale biger?

or, india per GDP is 1,000$, but, is india economy scale smaller economy scale than singapore?
india's only country budget is far biger than singapore whole GDP X 2.

it's same. malaysia country GDP is bigger than singapore.

it is that malaysia have money that reinforce military expenditures is more than Singapore.
that is malaysia richer that singapore by country economy size

But I bet you only half of Singapore military equipment store in their country, the rest keep else where

i talk main weapon each country..some have rifle ?, some have truck?..need not to speak this detail..

[deadfish]

Singapore airforce is strong more triple than malaysia airforce and army and navy too singapore stronger .
bytheway, why malaysia less military defense expenditure investment than Singapore, and does malaysia military strength keep little than singapore's half?

The following would be my opinion:
It is not that Malaysia's military strength is kept low, but Singapore have kept its military expenses at high. Because there is a need for Singapore to be seen as 'powerful' in military force to deter possible foreign attacks. If Singapore seems weak, and is targeted by neighbouring-unfriendly nations, they will go down in no time. With the higher technology and better equipment, they will be able to deter these neighbouring countries from harbouring warring thoughts.

try to compare the budget % allocation of Singapore, Malaysia, and other countries such as USA, French, China. I would bet Singapore's would be rather high on the list.

[pericles]

Singapore adopts a deterrent force as its defence policy.

What she lacks in manpower has to be made up with investments in hardware and better training to achieve a high state of readiness.

Adding to the above airplanes, Singapore has expressed interest in acquiring 100 F-35 JSF.

Should diplomacy fail, she'll adopt a first strike policy.

[yiming2000]

Singapore richer than Malaysia so whaattoudoo... But I bet you only half of Singapore military equipment store in their country, the rest keep else where

Singapore has air base in South Thailand. Their fighters are ready to scramble the moment Esfan, Proto and Awang make a wrong move.

[Kopassus]

Malaysia will get 18 Su-30MKM, and you forgot they also has 18 Hawk Mk208.

Brunei is also a rich and small country. Strange they haven't ordered the Hawks, they already discussed the aquisition of the Hawk with GB for many years. They also want to sell the Nakhoda Ragam class corvettes if the receive them from GB.

This post has been edited by Kopassus: Jan 7 2009, 03:40 AM

[Protoculture]

Singapore has air base in South Thailand. Their fighters are ready to scramble the moment Esfan, Proto and Awang make a wrong move

Another dumb idiotic post.

SG gonna do what to MY? In long running attrition warfare, both MY & SG cannot afford to do so. SG has limited resources, namely manpower (conscript troops from small population) & economy with no natural resources (its based on investment & trade, thus a war so close to its soil will scare investors away).

SG depended on MY for water, housing, intra-trade & investments, leisure, most importantly, raw materials. Our economy are deeply interwined & dependent on each other. A war will devastate both nations.

Don't talk c@ck & bull Yiming.

[pericles]

Proto is right. MY and SG have symbiotic relation. Its ludicrous to advocate any form of war for it serves ZERO purpose. Besides, both nations have citizens with relatives across the border.

However, Singapore will not be depending on water from Malaysia soon though trade, tourism and commerce will still be heavily intertwined.

[Protoculture]

However, Singapore will not be depending on water from Malaysia soon

Hell no! SG still needs water from Johore. Despite Newater, it can't solved SG water issues. As a developed nation, SG is still not self sufficient for freshwater production to keep up with internal consumption. Unless SG can build large desalineation plants to turned salt water to fresh water fit for consumption, SG will continue to dependent for MY regarding freshwater supplies.

Wanna be self sufficient, invest large sume of money for desalineation plants, but SG top leadership wants to make money, not lose 'em. If not SG would be self sufficient by now.

[pericles]

Hell no! SG still needs water from Johore. Despite Newater, it can't solved SG water issues. As a developed nation, SG is still not self sufficient for freshwater production to keep up with internal consumption. Unless SG can build large desalineation plants to turned salt water to fresh water fit for consumption, SG will continue to dependent for MY regarding freshwater supplies.

Wanna be self sufficient, invest large sume of money for desalineation plants, but SG top leadership wants to make money, not lose 'em. If not SG would be self sufficient by now.

Sorry Proto, I beg to differ. With the completion of the Marina Barrage, which took 20 years of planning, we're one step closer to achieving sustainability. We now await for the completion of the Punggol Serangoon reservoirs as well. Together with recycling technology like New Water and our desalination plants, we will be sustainable.

All the lessons learnt has been shared internationally. You can have a look at this website if you are keen to see the latest water technologies.

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