Was Hitler The Son Of Jose Rizal?, Is this rumor true? Options

[JuliusMariaLourd...]

When Jose Rizal was in Europe, it was noted out that he found a European girlfriend somewhere in the border of Germany and Austria. Then it was rumored that Adolf Hitler was the son of Jose Rizal.

Jose Rizal (the father)
Adolf Hitler (the son)

[juwanFromTaiwan]

When Jose Rizal was in Europe, it was noted out that he found a European girlfriend somewhere in the border of Germany and Austria.  Then it was rumored that Adolf Hitler was the son of Jose Rizal.

Jose Rizal (the father)
Adolf Hitler (the son)

So Hitler was part Filipino. Despite killing over 6 million Jews who were mostly not of Semitic stock but probably Eastern-European, he sure didnt know very much between actual race and religion.

[tehwprks]

Hoax.

[ronin]

Are you like on crack, man? Hitler’s family was deep inside Austria, in a “Maybury” like sleepy town and they were a working class family not in academia or in a university which is where Jose Rizal, a multi-talented Renaissance man, would mostly meet Europeans of Academia. Jose Rizal never visited Austria. He lived and studied in Spain and learned how to speak Catalonian there along with many other langauges including Latin and Sanskrit. He also studied in Heidelberg, Germany (far from Austria) and France . One of his many foreign girlfriends other than his two Filipina girlfriends was Irish, Belgian, British, Japanese, and I think French. No Austrian girlfriend, otherwise both scholars in the P.I. and Spain would have known about it by now.
Jose Rizal’s girlfriends(click here)
Alois Hitler and his son look almost like each other as does his mother who was a Catholic zealot. He came from a Catholic family and was an altar boy like Al Capone, Fidel Castro, and Joseph Stalin (whose mother wanted him to be a priest). That’s probably where he learned to be anti-semetic. (The Catholic Church and the other Protestant branches use to be very anti-semetic in the past 2 milleniums). I brought that up in case someone says he’s part Jewish. I’m a WW2 history buff since I was a kid (mostly WW2 aviation). So I know about this stuff.

This post has been edited by ronin: Sep 21 2005, 02:44 PM

[JuliusMariaLourd...]

Are you like on crack, man?

LOL. Asking a question such as: "Was Hitler The Son Of Jose Rizal?" - will simply try to solicit ideas - and that wouldn't sound like I'm on crack... man... lol - but let me tell you this: you don't sound like you are on crack. (but I could be wrong).

[ronin]

Well, I think there might be more Filipinos on this board who’ll be upset about this and think you’re on crack. Anyway, look at Hitler’s earlobes and Rizal’s Earlobes, they don’t match. Hitler’s earlobes flaps while Rizal’s earlobes are attached. Then look at Alois Hitler’s earlobes. It also flaps like his son:


Alois Hitler’s profile
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Hitler's mother's earlobes also flaps and is not attached:

source2

This post has been edited by ronin: Sep 21 2005, 03:14 PM

[Mr_Koolitz]

Bwaahahaha! this cracks me Upp!!

Hitler da Son of Rizal, Yeah! that's why Hitler wanted the world for Rizal's memory!
Hitler should have nailed Spain first instead of Poland! tsk tsk tsk...

[Bisdak]

Really? Then maybe we'll have to change the name of Adolf Hitler to Adolf Rizal..hehehe! Very funny! :lol:

[Cristiano_Ronald...]

Really? Then maybe we'll have to change the name of Adolf Hitler to Adolf Rizal..hehehe! Very funny! :lol:

OHH SNAAPPP! That's even more bad@$$-sounding than Adolf Hitler.

What's the theory behind this anyway?

[eins098]

Oh dude! i just recently finished my history subject and we're talking a lot about Jose Rizal's life but never a single page of the book talks about the sons of Rizal neither Adolf Hilter was his son. All was there is the girls of Rizal!

[eins098]

Oh dude! i just recently finished my history subject and we're talking a lot about Jose Rizal's life but never a single page of the book talks about the sons of Rizal neither Adolf Hilter was his son. All was there is the girls of Rizal!

[Bisdak]

Really? Then maybe we'll have to change the name of Adolf Hitler to Adolf Rizal..hehehe! Very funny! :lol:

OHH SNAAPPP! That's even more bad@$$-sounding than Adolf Hitler.

What's the theory behind this anyway?

i don't know... 2

[filipinoy]

Hlter should have told the Axis not mess with his father's homeland


then hilter was also part chinese?????cuz rizal has chinese ancestry

[Suijen]

Hlter should have told the Axis not mess with his father's homeland


then hilter was also part chinese?????cuz rizal has chinese ancestry

Haha, that would explain why he liked the Chinese more than Japanese.

[Kanlungan]

If Rizal was Hitler's Dad, them Hitler must be part Pinoy, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese at Aeta... No wonder Hitler was small

Don't take this seriously, aight? Hehe

[ronin]

Bwaahahaha! this cracks me Upp!!

Hitler da Son of Rizal, Yeah! that's why Hitler wanted the world for Rizal's memory!
Hitler should have nailed Spain first instead of Poland! tsk tsk tsk...

Fascist Spain under Fransisco Franco and Nazi Germany were allies during WW2. Hitler wouldn’t have invaded Spain. Franco would have Fascist Spain join Nazi Germany and Italy as a vassal state under Nazi Germany if Hitler had won WW2. Germany and Italy wanted their ally, Spain, to join them in WW2 because of their strategic position. But they were officially neutral during WW2 because they were busy rebuilding their country after going through a Civil War which the Nazis and Fascist Italy help provided weapons, volunteer troops, armor, and airplanes to Franco’s fascist Nationalists against the incumbent socialistic leftist Second Spanish Republic. Instead, Franco let German UBoats dock at their ports and sent in 4 infantry regiments and an airwing under the command of the Werrmacht Heer. It's to pay back Stalin for helping his enemies in their Civil War.source

[toki]

there are seriously soooo many theories about hitler's dad that its almost impossible to tell. i also heard that hitler's dad was jewish and he started hating jews because his father was an @ss and beat up his mother right in front of him. and his father was a horrible father. but that also could just be theories because hitler burned all his records.

well whatever it was. he sure didn't seem proud of his past or heritage.... so it can be SORTA assumed that he didnt want people to know he wasn't "pure aryan".. but then again. thats a theory as well

[Mulawin]

I think it is a propaganda started out many years ago to discredit Jose Rizal as the Philippine National hero, one more popular propganda agints rizal was that Rizal is US-sponsored national hero..

Here is an amsuing article written by Manuel Quezon III...


Adolf Rizal (And his half-brother, Mao Rizal)

By Manuel L. Quezon, III


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Here is the craziest thing I've heard (and I've heard it more than once, at parties): Adolf Hitler was really the illegitimate son of Jose Rizal. Here is the second most crazy thing I've heard: Mao Zedong was actually Rizal's illegitimate son. Two variations, I suppose, on the idea that "Yes, the Filipino Can!"

Sadly, I found the two theories so funny, that I never thought of asking the people who told them to me to explain on what grounds they based their claim about Der Fuehrer and the Great Helmsman. A dentistry student friend from U.E. has also heard these fanciful theories, but neither did it occur to him to ask on what evidence these fanciful claims were based. So I did a little research to find out how people could make such a story up.

The claim that Adolf Hitler was Rizal's progeny must be based on the following facts:

Adolf Hitler was born on April 20, 1889 (that means he could have been conceived sometime in August, 1888) , in the little village of Braunau, near the German-Austrian border.
He was born an Austrian and remained one until the 1930's.
The name of Hitler's mother was Klara Polzl.
At one time she was a maid, in Vienna.
Hitler always considered the town of Linz, in Austria, as his hometown (in his Political Testament he referred to "my home-town of Linz on the Danube.").
Hitler's oldest brother, Gustav, born on May 17, 1885, and his sister Ida, born in 1886, both died before he was born.
Bavaria was considered the "cradle" of Nazism.
The Nazis made Japan one of the Axis powers. At one point they were trying to prove that the Japanese were Aryans to make them members of the "master race."

Now combine the above information with the following culled from the life of Rizal:

On February 1, 1886, he left Paris for Germany. He went to Heidelberg, Wilhlmsfeld, Munich (in Bavaria), all somewhat near the German-Austrian border; on August 9, 1886 he left for Leipzig ("visiting various German cities along the way," one book says), arriving there on August 14. In October he went to Dresden and then to Berlin.
In Berlin he finished Noli Me Tangere. One of the book's characters is named Maria Clara.
On May 11, 1887, Rizal began his Grand Tour of Europe. He went to Dresden, Teschen (now Decin in the former Czechoslovakia), Prague, and then Brunn (where he lost a diamond stickpin), and Vienna (where he got back his stickpin, which was found by a maid in the hotel he stayed in in Brunn) in Austria .
On May 24, 1887, he left Vienna by riverboat to see sights on the Danube River (on the boat he saw paper napkins for the first time). His voyage ended at Linz.
From Linz he went to Munich (where Hitler attempted a putsch in 1923) and Nuremberg (site of the Nazi Party rallies and the War Crimes trials), and other German cities.
Rizal was in the German Empire, sometimes past the German-Austrian border, from February 1886 until he went to Switzerland in early June, 1887.
Rizal was again in Europe from May 24, 1888, until October 18, 1891. He was in London, Paris, Brussels, Madrid, Biarritz, Ghent. He was in Europe during the time Hitler was conceived and when he was born.
Rizal in 1888 had an affair with a Japanese woman, Seiko Usui, when he visited Japan. She had an only daughter, Yuriko, by a foreign husband some years after her encounter with Rizal. Yuriko later married the son of a Japanese politician.


Put all this information together and you may be able to conclude the following: [

Hitler was conceived either in 1887 when Rizal passed through Linz or other towns (such as Brunn - how do you think he lost the diamond stickpin? And who was the "maid" who found it later and gave it to Blumentritt who forwarded it to Vienna?) near the Austrian border: in which case Hitler's older siblings were fictitious, to cover up his mother's being pregnant with him. In other words Hitler was actually born before 1889.

Or he was conceived in August, 1888, when Rizal was supposedly in London. Or perhaps in September, 1888, when Rizal went to Paris for a week (to have a rendezvous with Klara?). Maybe when to Paris in 1889 it was so he could communicate more easily with the now-expecting Klara? Klara Polzl's affair with Rizal may have centered around Linz, which is why the Hitler family moved there later (so Mama Hitler could live where she had An Affair To Remember), which would explain Hitler's fondness for the town.

Finally, Seiko Usui's only daughter was not really fathered by her husband, Alfred Charlton. He was simply a front. Yuriko, you see, was Rizal's daughter! And Hitler knew she was his half-sister. She used her influence on her brother Adolf to convince him to enter into an alliance with Japan (making it one of the Axis powers): which is why Japan invaded the Philippines! Yuriko made it clear to Hirohito that Hitler would appreciate it if his ally were to take over his father's homeland. And of course the reason why Hitler wanted to become dictator of Germany was because his natural father had spent some of the most interesting years of his life there!

That, I think, is the rationale behind such a fantastic claim based on information that can be gathered from any High School textbook on Rizal and any good biography of Adolf Hitler. Naturally, this can only be done through selective use of the evidence, but it does make for an amusing piece of historical fiction.

Now, as to the idea that Mao Zedong was also Rizal's son. Unfortunately this claim cannot be supported by even the most spurious evidence. Mao Zedong was born in 1893, in Hunan Province, which you could say is kind of near Hong Kong. But at that time (1893), Rizal was in exile in Dapitan. Now it would have been possible for Rizal to scamper around Europe and get Klara pregnant without anybody noticing, but he couldn't possibly have jumped into a boat and rowed to Hong Kong without being caught. He did pass through Hong Kong in 1888 and 1891 but he never seems to have visited other parts of China (unless you count Xiamen and Macao). So there are no details that can be manipulated.

These exercises in foolishness prove how creative us Filipinos can be. What other people would be able to make the bogus claim that one of their heroes fathered the man who almost turned Europe into a "howling wilderness" (as one U.S. officer wanted to do with Samar)? That would have been poetic justice, I suppose, the brown man strikes back and all that sort of thing.

[xXADoBOXx]

Jose Rizal = PIMP
Hitler = some looser german kid...
nope its not his son..

This post has been edited by xXADoBOXx: Sep 24 2005, 11:08 AM

[Mr_Koolitz]

Bwaahahaha! this cracks me Upp!!

Hitler da Son of Rizal, Yeah! that's why Hitler wanted the world for Rizal's memory!
Hitler should have nailed Spain first instead of Poland! tsk tsk tsk...

Fascist Spain under Fransisco Franco and Nazi Germany were allies during WW2. Hitler wouldn’t have invaded Spain. Franco would have Fascist Spain join Nazi Germany and Italy as a vassal state under Nazi Germany if Hitler had won WW2. Germany and Italy wanted their ally, Spain, to join them in WW2 because of their strategic position. But they were officially neutral during WW2 because they were busy rebuilding their country after going through a Civil War which the Nazis and Fascist Italy help provided weapons, volunteer troops, armor, and airplanes to Franco’s fascist Nationalists against the incumbent socialistic leftist Second Spanish Republic. Instead, Franco let German UBoats dock at their ports and sent in 4 infantry regiments and an airwing under the command of the Werrmacht Heer. It's to pay back Stalin for helping his enemies in their Civil War.source

Ummm newsflash! Germany is not looking for permanent Ally, ask Russia...